From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 01:08:19 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:08:19 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! References: <20020930204248.69269.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c268de$aa8a1640$ee92bd18@gio> Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. I still like it. RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies zine. http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: "Colonel Panic" > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that posted anywhere in the > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote back in the > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly everything turns all wavy > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV sitcom)... > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously reading my email while > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues into Spanish using > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino Allsman episode, no > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook is, while reading > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual bumbling translator > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough meaning--which is so > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting guffaw! Suddenly my > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this disjointed composition, > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has been weirdly > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with the foot your > ass!" > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. I felt like a > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully explained to the > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not mocking her, but > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen on a TV sitcom the > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was the only excuse I > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was acting like a > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then continued her > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned something in her > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I apologized silently to the > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of RBCP!!! > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me has gone > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space goodbye! > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > happiness! > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 02:47:55 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Brad Carter) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <000e01c268de$aa8a1640$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021001014755.1380.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking > Bunnies zine. > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt Excuse me RTF, but it's DARK Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies. Please don't make that mistake on public forums, I wouldn't want people to think my phreaking group is a bunch of sissies. ===== My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 05:37:34 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:37:34 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... In-Reply-To: <20020921222146.51830.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah so I was chilling with the pixies yesterday and they were like "holy shit yeah we love the pla" so they quickly wrote and recorded a song called "cactus" From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 07:44:24 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... In-Reply-To: <200209240320.g8O3K6O29365@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, pyro sawp wrote: > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] curious... > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >I've noticed that some people around here seem to always take a negative/naysayer's > >attitude whenever I post any messages involving ideas or proposals. Could this > >antithetical grumpiness stance be a facade to hide their lack of imagination, knowledge > >or skills? > > > > Could this be pointed towards me? I got all the 0d4y sk1llz son. Old habits die hard. Maybe > you dont get the point of what a *discussion list* is for. If you want a group where you can > propose a subject and only get responses you want, maybe you should start your own group and > moderate it like a nazi. Negativity helps get things accomplished. Dear Pirate Soap, I never noticed how good of a speaker you were. Perhaps it is because before now for years you have replied with less than a couple bad-grammared sentences at a time. But I can see that you are growing up, and you are really showing some very nice potential. Keep it up, you will soon be locking doors from all the myraids of chicks who will crave your sexy brain. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 09:17:59 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:17:59 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... Message-ID: <200210010717.g917He603181@smtp2.ixpres.com> hitler dont want ne of youre dam coments in his thred! u gots ti grammer boy!1 > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] curious... > From: > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:44:24 -0400 (EDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Dear Pirate Soap, > > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 20:53:30 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:53:30 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... Message-ID: <68.26aad2ff.2acb573a@aol.com> --part1_68.26aad2ff.2acb573a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/02 2:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org writes: > you will > soon be locking doors from all the myraids of chicks then he probably isn't too smart. --part1_68.26aad2ff.2acb573a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/02 2:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org writes:


you will
soon be locking doors from all the myraids of chicks


then he probably isn't too smart. --part1_68.26aad2ff.2acb573a_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 1 21:44:38 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:44:38 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! References: <20021001014755.1380.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003401c2698b$5c2b2fe0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Brad Carter" > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking > > Bunnies zine. > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > Excuse me RTF, but it's DARK Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies. Please > don't make that mistake on public forums, I wouldn't want people to > think my phreaking group is a bunch of sissies. Right, my mistake. And remind me to get some of my paler friends together to declare you an honorary Goth. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 2 01:18:49 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <000e01c268de$aa8a1640$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021002001849.32812.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. I > still like it. > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies zine. > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that posted > anywhere in the > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > back in the > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly everything > turns all wavy > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV sitcom)... > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously reading > my email while > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues into > Spanish using > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > Allsman episode, no > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook is, > while reading > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual bumbling > translator > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > meaning--which is so > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > guffaw! Suddenly my > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > disjointed composition, > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has been > weirdly > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with the > foot your > > ass!" > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. I > felt like a > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > explained to the > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > mocking her, but > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen on > a TV sitcom the > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was the > only excuse I > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > acting like a > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > continued her > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > something in her > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I apologized > silently to the > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of RBCP!!! > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me has > gone > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space goodbye! > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > happiness! > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 2 01:42:17 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:42:17 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021002001849.32812.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. I > still like it. > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies zine. > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that posted > anywhere in the > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > back in the > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly everything > turns all wavy > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV sitcom)... > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously reading > my email while > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues into > Spanish using > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > Allsman episode, no > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook is, > while reading > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual bumbling > translator > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > meaning--which is so > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > guffaw! Suddenly my > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > disjointed composition, > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has been > weirdly > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with the > foot your > > ass!" > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. I > felt like a > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > explained to the > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > mocking her, but > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen on > a TV sitcom the > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was the > only excuse I > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > acting like a > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > continued her > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > something in her > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I apologized > silently to the > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of RBCP!!! > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me has > gone > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space goodbye! > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > happiness! > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --┼eК₪XمugK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 00:59:58 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 19:59:58 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. >I > > still like it. > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies >zine. > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that >posted > > anywhere in the > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > back in the > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly >everything > > turns all wavy > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV >sitcom)... > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously >reading > > my email while > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues >into > > Spanish using > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > Allsman episode, no > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook >is, > > while reading > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual >bumbling > > translator > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > meaning--which is so > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > disjointed composition, > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has >been > > weirdly > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with >the > > foot your > > > ass!" > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. >I > > felt like a > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > explained to the > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > mocking her, but > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen >on > > a TV sitcom the > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was >the > > only excuse I > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > acting like a > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > continued her > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > something in her > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I >apologized > > silently to the > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me >has > > gone > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space >goodbye! > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--┼eК₪XمugK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 01:01:13 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:01:13 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... Message-ID: I fucking hate chicks, little chripping blond pieces of shit. They do nothing but annoy me and "look cute". That goes for women as well. > >In a message dated 10/1/02 2:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org writes: > > > > you will > > soon be locking doors from all the myraids of chicks > >then he probably isn't too smart. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 01:16:54 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:16:54 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... Message-ID: <165.146d673f.2acce676@aol.com> --part1_165.146d673f.2acce676_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/02 8:02:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > That goes for women as well. If you ever go to a conf with this guy and decide to make the mistake of rooming with him, don't drop the soap! --part1_165.146d673f.2acce676_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/02 8:02:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes:


That goes for women as well.


If you ever go to a conf with this guy and decide to make the mistake of rooming with him, don't drop the soap! --part1_165.146d673f.2acce676_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 01:18:40 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:18:40 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, dickhead. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. >I > > still like it. > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies >zine. > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that >posted > > anywhere in the > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > back in the > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly >everything > > turns all wavy > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV >sitcom)... > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously >reading > > my email while > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues >into > > Spanish using > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > Allsman episode, no > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook >is, > > while reading > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual >bumbling > > translator > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > meaning--which is so > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > disjointed composition, > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has >been > > weirdly > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with >the > > foot your > > > ass!" > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. >I > > felt like a > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > explained to the > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > mocking her, but > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen >on > > a TV sitcom the > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was >the > > only excuse I > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > acting like a > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > continued her > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > something in her > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I >apologized > > silently to the > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me >has > > gone > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space >goodbye! > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--┼eК₪XمugK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 01:42:12 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:42:12 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oops "new leaders OF the world" -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of arcmna Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:19 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, dickhead. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. >I > > still like it. > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies >zine. > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that >posted > > anywhere in the > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > back in the > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly >everything > > turns all wavy > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV >sitcom)... > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously >reading > > my email while > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues >into > > Spanish using > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > Allsman episode, no > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook >is, > > while reading > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual >bumbling > > translator > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > meaning--which is so > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > disjointed composition, > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has >been > > weirdly > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with >the > > foot your > > > ass!" > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. >I > > felt like a > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > explained to the > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > mocking her, but > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen >on > > a TV sitcom the > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was >the > > only excuse I > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > acting like a > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > continued her > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > something in her > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I >apologized > > silently to the > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me >has > > gone > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space >goodbye! > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--┼eК₪XمugK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 04:22:10 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colleen Card) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021003032210.77155.qmail@web40702.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mr Peanut wrote: > I fucking hate chicks, little chripping blond pieces > of shit. They do > nothing but annoy me and "look cute". That goes for > women as well. I hate faggot assholes who think they are cool or something! Colleen ===== "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams." ~`~`~Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory~`~`~ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 04:22:49 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:22:49 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Fw: UCB News 10/2 Message-ID: <005c01c26a8c$26b8b4c0$ee92bd18@gio> Heads up to anyone who wants to be an extra in the Upright Citizens Brigade's new improv movie! They're doing this in California, I think. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: UCB News 10/2 > UCB Improv Movie > > In LA, November 15-26, the UCB will finish shooting our first improv movie. > There are several group scenes (Chugging contest on the beach; All Nude Rave > by a bonfire; a bar fight; a town hall debate; a press conference; and a big > musical number in an ice cream parlor). We are looking for our fans to be > extras. You will not be paid but it will be fun. > > Do you own a bar? > Do you own an ice cream parlor? > Do you own something that looks like a town hall? > Do you own a police uniform? > Do you know stage combat? > Will you be nude? > Do you have a lot of experience in doing musicals? > What is your availability? > > Please give us your email and your cell phone number. > > If you are interested in helping us out of the movie then please email your > info to ucbinfo@aol.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 04:24:09 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:24:09 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! References: <20021002001849.32812.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006601c26a8c$56431dc0$ee92bd18@gio> Another pox on my house? Where will I keep it? Ah, I'll just stack it out back with the others... From: "Colonel Panic" > Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. I > > still like it. > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies zine. > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 04:39:43 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 23:39:43 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... In-Reply-To: <20021003032210.77155.qmail@web40702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dont hate the gays, we much straighten their false path to the way of god. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colleen Card Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:22 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] curious... --- Mr Peanut wrote: > I fucking hate chicks, little chripping blond pieces > of shit. They do > nothing but annoy me and "look cute". That goes for > women as well. I hate faggot assholes who think they are cool or something! Colleen ===== "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams." ~`~`~Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory~`~`~ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 15:23:31 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Draft?? In-Reply-To: <200209250718.g8P7IpO24177@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: Why would you want to watch wonna-be humor shows? If you want something funny, (and I don't watch TV because most things aren't funny, but at least I know this) just find a channel with Bush talking. Hours of excitement. One time he was talking about terrorism and gave some long paragraph with heavy metaphoric metaphors about how heroic his actiong will be. At the bottom they would quote what he said with whatever words they could fit on the screen. So after that metaphor, they quoted something like: "No cave is deep enough... to hide terrorists." I immediately grabbed a pen and scribbled those words of wisdom on my wife's calendar. Titled "Bush, 2002. " -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, pyro sawp wrote: > I caught it, funniest thing on the daily show in a long long time. > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Draft?? > > From: "Mr Peanut" > > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:13:28 -0400 > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Did anyone catch the quote the daily show had from bush? > >"fool me once...shame on....you...uh uh the foolme cant get fooled again"- > >bushy > >http://www.comedycentral.com/includes/rpmdirect.jhtml?ram=dailyshow%2Fheadlines%2F7034_headline_56.rm > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 15:25:38 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Draft?? In-Reply-To: <007b01c264ea$acb0fbc0$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: Maybe Bush chose her because she is a woman and he hates women. He only supports them if he needs their vote. -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: "linear !" > > > > Yeah, this was on my local news a few days ago. Her comments are probably > > some of the more tame comments being made around the world about our > > retarded war-hawk cowboy fuckhead of a president. I just wondered why they > > picked HER comments instead of all the thousands of others being made > > against our FEARLESS LEADER!@# by other country's leaders. > > Because her comments were apologized for by her higher-ups, which can be > made to look like she was wrong to say it, and it can also be made plain and > simple that the "American People" won't stand for any yahoos saying nasty > things about our defective president. > > Besides, it *is* unfair to compare Bush to Hitler. Hitler was elected. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 19:39:16 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021003183916.79045.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur that he shut the fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for no reason at all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor compelling. It just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. Many people here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to flame, argue with, and attack me for saying it. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > >I > > > still like it. > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > >zine. > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > >posted > > > anywhere in the > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > > back in the > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > >everything > > > turns all wavy > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > >reading > > > my email while > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > >into > > > Spanish using > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook > >is, > > > while reading > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > >bumbling > > > translator > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > meaning--which is so > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > disjointed composition, > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has > >been > > > weirdly > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with > >the > > > foot your > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. > >I > > > felt like a > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > explained to the > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > mocking her, but > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen > >on > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > >the > > > only excuse I > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > > acting like a > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > > continued her > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > something in her > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > >apologized > > > silently to the > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me > >has > > > gone > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >===== > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > >___________________________________________________________ > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 19:48:30 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021003184830.94192.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's gay? I think a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden rage from within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an extreme example of this. And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few friends who happen to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly disgusted by the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards fags in general, any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to Kenny G. --- arcmna wrote: > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > dickhead. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > >I > > > still like it. > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > >zine. > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > >posted > > > anywhere in the > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > > back in the > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > >everything > > > turns all wavy > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > >reading > > > my email while > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > >into > > > Spanish using > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook > >is, > > > while reading > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > >bumbling > > > translator > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > meaning--which is so > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > disjointed composition, > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has > >been > > > weirdly > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with > >the > > > foot your > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. > >I > > > felt like a > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > explained to the > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > mocking her, but > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen > >on > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > >the > > > only excuse I > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > > acting like a > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > > continued her > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > something in her > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > >apologized > > > silently to the > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me > >has > > > gone > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >===== > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > >___________________________________________________________ > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 19:52:03 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Fw: UCB News 10/2 In-Reply-To: <005c01c26a8c$26b8b4c0$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021003185203.94711.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the invite, but I am here in Chicago, and have other plans for the next few months that preclude travel out of state for more than a day or two on weekends. But thanks for ine invite, anyway! Maybe next time. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Heads up to anyone who wants to be an extra in the Upright Citizens > Brigade's new improv movie! They're doing this in California, I think. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:57 PM > Subject: UCB News 10/2 > > > > UCB Improv Movie > > > > In LA, November 15-26, the UCB will finish shooting our first improv > movie. > > There are several group scenes (Chugging contest on the beach; All Nude > Rave > > by a bonfire; a bar fight; a town hall debate; a press conference; and a > big > > musical number in an ice cream parlor). We are looking for our fans to be > > extras. You will not be paid but it will be fun. > > > > Do you own a bar? > > Do you own an ice cream parlor? > > Do you own something that looks like a town hall? > > Do you own a police uniform? > > Do you know stage combat? > > Will you be nude? > > Do you have a lot of experience in doing musicals? > > What is your availability? > > > > Please give us your email and your cell phone number. > > > > If you are interested in helping us out of the movie then please email > your > > info to ucbinfo@aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 20:00:25 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <006601c26a8c$56431dc0$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021003190025.32756.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Well, you could apply it to your house, considering that that's what it's for. For a man who claims such an abundance of house-poxes, and the photos I have seen of your abode, it appears to be strangely pox-free! Are you storing them out back, waiting to collect enough to do the entire house all at once? -- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Another pox on my house? Where will I keep it? Ah, I'll just stack it out > back with the others... > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > I > > > still like it. > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > zine. > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 20:45:12 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:45:12 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021003183916.79045.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur that he shut the fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for no reason at all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor compelling. It just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. Many people here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to flame, argue with, and attack me for saying it. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > >I > > > still like it. > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > >zine. > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > >posted > > > anywhere in the > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > > back in the > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > >everything > > > turns all wavy > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > >reading > > > my email while > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > >into > > > Spanish using > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook > >is, > > > while reading > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > >bumbling > > > translator > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > meaning--which is so > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > disjointed composition, > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has > >been > > > weirdly > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with > >the > > > foot your > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. > >I > > > felt like a > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > explained to the > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > mocking her, but > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen > >on > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > >the > > > only excuse I > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > > acting like a > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > > continued her > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > something in her > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > >apologized > > > silently to the > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me > >has > > > gone > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >===== > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > >___________________________________________________________ > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --┼eК₪XمugK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 20:45:14 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:45:14 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021003184830.94192.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more heterosexual than you, maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's gay? I think a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden rage from within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an extreme example of this. And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few friends who happen to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly disgusted by the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards fags in general, any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to Kenny G. --- arcmna wrote: > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > dickhead. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > >I > > > still like it. > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > >zine. > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > >posted > > > anywhere in the > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP wrote > > > back in the > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > >everything > > > turns all wavy > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > >reading > > > my email while > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > >into > > > Spanish using > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the Dino > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The hook > >is, > > > while reading > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > >bumbling > > > translator > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > meaning--which is so > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, snorting > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > disjointed composition, > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which has > >been > > > weirdly > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike with > >the > > > foot your > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several seconds. > >I > > > felt like a > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > explained to the > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > mocking her, but > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd seen > >on > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > >the > > > only excuse I > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I was > > > acting like a > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, then > > > continued her > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > something in her > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > >apologized > > > silently to the > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old me > >has > > > gone > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >===== > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > >___________________________________________________________ > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --┼eК₪XمugK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 3 21:33:37 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:33:37 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! References: <20021003190025.32756.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005001c26b1c$270524a0$ee92bd18@gio> They're stored away in my secret pox shelter. I have boxes and boxes of poxes. From: "Colonel Panic" > Well, you could apply it to your house, considering that that's what it= 's for. > > For a man who claims such an abundance of house-poxes, and the photos I have seen of your > abode, it appears to be strangely pox-free! Are you storing them out ba= ck, waiting to > collect enough to do the entire house all at once? > > -- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Another pox on my house? Where will I keep it? Ah, I'll just stack = it out > > back with the others... > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back i= nto > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.= com > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ---┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K > > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 07:11:17 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:11:17 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <200210040510.g945A8618336@smtp2.ixpres.com> > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > The word was concour, not conour. It doesn't just mean "agree", so you're wrong on that also. > >To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur that he shut the >fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for no reason at >all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor compelling. Do you know either of them? do you know if they know each other or have spent time talking? No you don't. So making an assumption that he is being obnoxious to a person for no reason just makes you look like an ass who doesn't have any facts but still feels the need to "butt" in on a message that wasn't directed towards him. >It >just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. Many people >here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to flame, argue >with, and attack me for saying it. > Scream flame all you want, I see you still havn't found out what a discussion list is. Everytime someone counters something you say you scream flame or attack, sounds like something a "small-minded moron" would do. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 07:21:09 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:21:09 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <200210040519.g945Jx622019@smtp2.ixpres.com> > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's gay? I think >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > I see we have the human rights activist here with a stick up his ass who doesn't understand a joke. (now lets hear your speech about making fun of gay people isn't funny and how it breeds hate) > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden rage from >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an extreme example >of this. "ho·mo·pho·bi·a Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-) n. 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. " Saying everyone who is homophobic has repressed homosexual urges just shows how moronic you are. > > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few friends who happen >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly disgusted by >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards fags in general, >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to Kenny G. > You sure do seem to use the term "fag" quite liberally, you also say that the thought of having sex with another male disgusts you. Which means your gay (supposed) friends disgust you. Sounds like your homophobic, sounds like you're really a homosexual with repressed urges who likes to suck cock in alleys anonymously. Fags in the shower! From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 06:34:29 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:34:29 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <200210040519.g945Jx622019@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: mmmm, maybe panic would just like to have a big gay orgy so we can get all these repressed-homosexual feelings out in the open. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:21 AM To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's gay? I think >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > I see we have the human rights activist here with a stick up his ass who doesn't understand a joke. (now lets hear your speech about making fun of gay people isn't funny and how it breeds hate) > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden rage from >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an extreme example >of this. "ho·mo·pho·bi·a Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-) n. 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. " Saying everyone who is homophobic has repressed homosexual urges just shows how moronic you are. > > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few friends who happen >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly disgusted by >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards fags in general, >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to Kenny G. > You sure do seem to use the term "fag" quite liberally, you also say that the thought of having sex with another male disgusts you. Which means your gay (supposed) friends disgust you. Sounds like your homophobic, sounds like you're really a homosexual with repressed urges who likes to suck cock in alleys anonymously. Fags in the shower! _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 06:41:09 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021004054109.91925.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> You're welcome. See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect no less were I ever wrong about anything. --- arcmna wrote: > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur > that he shut the > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for > no reason at > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor > compelling. It > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. > Many people > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to > flame, argue > with, and attack me for saying it. > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > >I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > >zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > >posted > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > wrote > > > > back in the > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > >everything > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > >reading > > > > my email while > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > > >into > > > > Spanish using > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > Dino > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > hook > > >is, > > > > while reading > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > >bumbling > > > > translator > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > snorting > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which > has > > >been > > > > weirdly > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike > with > > >the > > > > foot your > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > seconds. > > >I > > > > felt like a > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > > explained to the > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd > seen > > >on > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > > >the > > > > only excuse I > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I > was > > > > acting like a > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, > then > > > > continued her > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > > something in her > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > >apologized > > > > silently to the > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old > me > > >has > > > > gone > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >===== > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 06:44:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021004054436.75585.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Um, you go right ahead. I am fully satisfied just being hetero. But thanks, I am flattered (I guess). --- arcmna wrote: > mmmm, maybe panic would just like to have a big gay orgy so we can > get all these repressed-homosexual feelings out in the open. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:21 AM > To: phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because > he's gay? I think > >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > I see we have the human rights activist here with a stick up his ass who > doesn't understand a > joke. (now lets hear your speech about making fun of gay people isn't funny > and how it breeds hate) > > > > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a > guilt-ridden rage from > >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > extreme example > >of this. > > "ho·mo·pho·bi·a Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-) > n. > 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. > 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. " > > Saying everyone who is homophobic has repressed homosexual urges just shows > how moronic you are. > > > > > > > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > friends who happen > >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > disgusted by > >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > fags in general, > >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen > to Kenny G. > > > > You sure do seem to use the term "fag" quite liberally, you also say that > the thought of having > sex with another male disgusts you. Which means your gay (supposed) friends > disgust you. > Sounds like your homophobic, sounds like you're really a homosexual with > repressed urges who > likes to suck cock in alleys anonymously. Fags in the shower! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 07:19:19 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <200210040510.g945A8618336@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: <20021004061919.32106.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based discussion forum whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically forwarded to everyone else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post whatever and whenever one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received by EVERYONE (unless the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are posting to and reading messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from 'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' is called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this sort, which runs on *nix/Linux servers. In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and anyone can reply to any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and condescending persona, that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to adopt, as long as there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and others around here prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no better and no worse than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come to inhabit this list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. When somebody comes around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an intelligent adult, then I will respond in kind. But until then... I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and your sycophantic stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling over every minute detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my intellectual superiority and just keep your bullshit to yourself. I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty bullshit or flaming, old-crone niggling that anybody shall henceforth cast in my direction. Legitimate, intelligent discussion and debate I will of course answer, but any of this childish petty squabbling I will completely ignore. NOW on to more important matters... --- pyro sawp wrote: > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > > The word was concour, not conour. It doesn't just mean "agree", so you're wrong on that > also. > > > > >To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur that he shut > the > >fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for no reason > at > >all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor compelling. > > Do you know either of them? do you know if they know each other or have spent time > talking? No > you don't. So making an assumption that he is being obnoxious to a person for no reason > just > makes you look like an ass who doesn't have any facts but still feels the need to > "butt" in on > a message that wasn't directed towards him. > > >It > >just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. Many people > >here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to flame, > argue > >with, and attack me for saying it. > > > > Scream flame all you want, I see you still havn't found out what a discussion list is. > Everytime someone counters something you say you scream flame or attack, sounds like > something > a "small-minded moron" would do. > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 08:52:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:52:36 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <200210040651.g946pY624177@smtp2.ixpres.com> > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:19:19 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based discussion forum >whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically forwarded to everyone >else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post whatever and whenever >one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received by EVERYONE (unless >the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are posting to and reading >messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from 'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' is >called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this sort, which runs on >*nix/Linux servers. > >In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and anyone can reply to >any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. > You may have the definition down, but since you take every response that counters yours as a flame, you still obviously dont understand what one is. > >Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and condescending persona, >that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to adopt, as long as >there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and others around here >prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no better and no worse >than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come to inhabit this >list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. When somebody comes >around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an intelligent adult, then I >will respond in kind. But until then... I havn't noticed any superior persona from you, only thing I have seen is crying when someone doesn't see something your way > > >I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and your sycophantic >stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling over every minute >detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my intellectual superiority >and just keep your bullshit to yourself. Well once again, we come back to you not know what a dicussion list is for. You said it yourself oh great retarded one, "an OPEN forum." > > >I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty bullshit or >flaming, old-crone niggling that anybody shall henceforth cast in my direction. >Legitimate, intelligent discussion and debate I will of course answer, but any of this >childish petty squabbling I will completely ignore. > >NOW on to more important matters... > Yes, lets get back on how to rip off old peoples calling cards and other such petty crimes so we can get... "oh boy, free calls!" After all, that's very important to you isn't it? From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 07:54:01 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating Message-ID: <20021004065401.91255.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> I was given a bunch of design-related websites to peruse as part of a class assignment. This was among the writings on one of the pages. Don Norman is a famous designer, one of the main advocates of 'user-centric' design theory--a practical approach that stresses functionality and ease of use above all else. This is an article he wrote about schooling: ____________________________________________ Don Norman -- In Defense of Cheating Preamble: No, I am not in favor of deception, trickery, fraud, or swindle. What I wish to change are the curriculum and examination practices of our school systems that insist on unaided work, arbitrary learning of irrelevant and uninteresting facts. I'd like to move them toward an emphasis on understanding, on knowing how to get to an answer rather than knowing the answer, and on cooperation rather than isolation. Cheating that involves deceit is, of course wrong, but we should examine the school practices that lead to cheating: change the practices, and the deceit will naturally diminish. Students cheat. There is no way of avoiding this fact. Students hand in homework and project assignments copied from others, or written by their parents, or even purchased. Students copy from one another on examinations, and they try to discover advance information about examinations. When cheating involves deceit, trickery, fraud, or swindle it must be prohibited. But the proper solution to the problem is not through prohibition and punishment: it is through examination of the sources. Why do even our best students feel compelled either to cheat, or to help other students, or to watch while others cheat, without taking action. I believe that the root cause of cheating in our school systems lies with inappropriate curricula and examinations. Change the practices and the cheating should naturally diminish. Consider this: in many ways, the behavior we call cheating in schools is exactly the behavior we desire in the real world. Think about it. What behavior do we call cheating in the school system? Asking others for help, copying answers, copying papers. Most of these activities are better called ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 07:57:26 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating In-Reply-To: <20021004065401.91255.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021004065726.97015.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Hmmm... strange. It didn't send the whole thing. Here it is (hopefully in its entirety). ____________________________________________ Don Norman -- In Defense of Cheating Preamble: No, I am not in favor of deception, trickery, fraud, or swindle. What I wish to change are the curriculum and examination practices of our school systems that insist on unaided work, arbitrary learning of irrelevant and uninteresting facts. I'd like to move them toward an emphasis on understanding, on knowing how to get to an answer rather than knowing the answer, and on cooperation rather than isolation. Cheating that involves deceit is, of course wrong, but we should examine the school practices that lead to cheating: change the practices, and the deceit will naturally diminish. Students cheat. There is no way of avoiding this fact. Students hand in homework and project assignments copied from others, or written by their parents, or even purchased. Students copy from one another on examinations, and they try to discover advance information about examinations. When cheating involves deceit, trickery, fraud, or swindle it must be prohibited. But the proper solution to the problem is not through prohibition and punishment: it is through examination of the sources. Why do even our best students feel compelled either to cheat, or to help other students, or to watch while others cheat, without taking action. I believe that the root cause of cheating in our school systems lies with inappropriate curricula and examinations. Change the practices and the cheating should naturally diminish. Consider this: in many ways, the behavior we call cheating in schools is exactly the behavior we desire in the real world. Think about it. What behavior do we call cheating in the school system? Asking others for help, copying answers, copying papers. Most of these activities are better called "networking" or "cooperative work." In the workplace these behaviors are encouraged and rewarded. Thus, many experts will tell you that their real expertise lies not in what they know but rather in who they know: that is, expertise is often knowing whom to ask and where to look. When we have problems in the real world, we want answers, no matter the source, which means searching to find someone else who has experienced the same problem, asking others for help, and cooperating. Cooperative Versus Individual Work In schools we over-emphasize individual work. Perhaps the only place where individual, isolated work is encouraged and cooperative work punished is in the school systems. In examinations, not only is it prohibited to copy other's work or to ask others for help, but it usually isn't possible to refer to books or, oh my goodness, the Internet. Yet these are all important skills in the world outside of schools. Students should be taught how to work effectively in teams, how to use reference works, how to use the Internet effectively, and especially how to find the significant from the non-significant, to distinguish quality from nonsense. Our instructional philosophies are short-sighted. This insistence upon unaided, individual work is the result of the long-established policy of grading: each individual is ranked through the assignment of a numerical or letter score that is meant to reflect their mastery of the subject matter. But does it? First of all, are the examinations effective? Do they encourage understanding or do they emphasize the arbitrary recitation of material that is examinable. We know from our own experience, supported by numerous formal studies, that students cram for exams, regurgitate the material at exam time, and seldom retain it afterwards. How much better to reward procedures for coming up with answers. Emphasize understanding of the issues and knowledge of how to gain insight and resolution. Emphasize cooperation. Consider plagiarization. The sin of plagiarization is not that it involves copying -- this should be rewarded -- but that it doesn't give credit for the originator. Deceit is wrong: it should be avoided. The problem is that the current system of homework and examinations emphasize the individual activity, oftentimes in sterile, meaningless exercises, ones that are easy to grade. Grades are important in determining the future of each student, even though they measure only a fraction of a person's ability and potential, and quite often do a poor job even of the aspects they pretend to measure. It is no wonder that teachers teach to the exam, that students study for the exam, that true understanding and exploration of issues is discouraged if it will detract from time that could be spent studying for the exam. The grading system, moreover, is often on a curve, with a fixed percentage of students receiving each letter grade. This means it is a zero-sum game: a person can only get a higher grade if someone else receives a lower grade. No wonder the intense competition, no wonder the cramming for exams, no wonder cheating -- anything to get ahead. No wonder copying without attribution, for the students feel compelled to lie: the student who finds just the perfect essay and presents it to the instructor receives no credit if the essay was written by someone else. But suppose the student got credit for finding the essay, that the reward was based upon just how relevant and insightful that essay really was? And if both the student who presented the essay and the originator of the essay received credit? This is a tricky concept. Thus, if one student writes a paper and another simply copies it, no, that's not what we are trying to encourage, not even if full credit is given to the original. The goal is to support cooperative work, where everyone contributes, each according to their abilities, but that those abilities are recorded and become part of the student transcript. In other words, the goal is not to rank order the students by some arbitrary mark of performance measure, which is what grades do, but rather to determine a student's true attributes and skills and to record them accurately. Some students are scholars, others leaders. Some are team players, others not. Some are generalists, others specialists. The goal is accurate characterization. We do not need value judgments among the attributes: society needs all of them. In a system where copying is punished, the student feels compelled to lie. Suppose that copying were encouraged -- honest copying, where the source must be revealed. And suppose that both the copier and the originator of the material were rewarded, the originator for their contribution and the copier for knowing where to seek the information. This would reinforce the correct behaviors, minimize deceit, and encourage cooperativeness. Take a tip from the "recommendation" sites on the Internet, where contributors are rated on the basis of their effectiveness and usefulness to others. We should grade students on their effectiveness in forming coalitions in organizing groups, and in the nature of their contributions to the group work. Thus, if one person is frequently copied, that person's stature as a contributor should rise. Similarly, if a person makes no original contribution, but is effective at forming coalitions that solve problems, that person's status as an organizer should rise. We could change the educational system to make it more relevant to the world, to teach proper social skills, and at the same time eliminate the deceitful, hidden acts of cheating by recognizing cheating for the good that it brings: group activities toward a common end. Mastery Grading Today, the grading system fosters a competitive, zero-sum game spirit in which if one student wins, the others lose. I have long been bothered by the system of grading on the curve, forcing students to compete rather than cooperate. I favor grading to absolute standards. Determine what is to be learned and measure how successful each student is in their accomplishments. If every student gets an A, hurrah! It means every student has learned. If every student gets an A, this does not mean that all students are equal. Not at all: some students can accomplish more than others, and this difference should be noted. But suppose we replace the fixed curriculum and its rigid grading scheme with a new procedure in which different students would do different work and their "grade" would be a list of their accomplishments? Evaluate students on their mastery level: mastery grading. In addition, evaluate them on their ability to work with others, either by being a productive team member, by organizing the team, or by their ability to contribute toward the solution. Suppose the grading system measured level of accomplishment. Suppose the school curriculum were divided into modules of useful knowledge or skills, each relatively small (a week or two of class, perhaps even a few hours). Each student is mentored, and the module is marked as complete only when the student masters it. In other words, grade on a "Pass" basis. But only use "Pass" -- do not use a "Fail" or "Not-Pass" grade. A student either knows the stuff or doesn't, and in the latter case, the student is encouraged to keep learning. Some modules should be mandatory: some optional. Schools could require that students complete the mandatory modules as well as a specified number of others, perhaps requiring a distribution across disciplines. The major structure of a curriculum need not change. The major point of mastery grading is that evaluation specifies the modules completed rather than today's attempt at measuring the quality of accomplishment of a fixed-length course. A student transcript would list the set of modules completed satisfactorily. Admission to higher grades or to universities -- or even employment -- could be based upon what students know. Schools or employers would not look at grade point averages, rather they would judge students by their particular skills, by their ability to work in teams, and by the set of modules that they have mastered. Note that changing to modular education with mastery grading also means changing today's system of lock-step education. Today, if students fail at some topic, when they are moved to the next grade, they no longer have exposure to it, even if they wish to. In a modular system, students could study the modules they need or that they are interested in, regardless of grade level. In the end, the students possess a list of topics that they understand. Some will have completed many modules, some just the minimum required. Some will have modules that reflect a broad range of topics, some more narrow, but deeper knowledge. Instead of arbitrary ranking through grade-point averages, each student is characterized by their accomplishments. Restructuring the School System In this essay, I focus upon changes to curriculum and instruction that would change the emphasis in school systems from that of competition to cooperation, from arbitrary grading on the curve to mastery assessment of a student's accomplishments. But these changes are only part of the restructuring required of our educational systems. Many more changes are needed. We need to get away from the lecture-centered method of teaching. We need to emphasize "learning," not "teaching." Teaching is about the teacher. Learning is about the student. The emphasis should be on doing, on activities: "learning by doing." Yes, depth of understanding should be encouraged, but this is best nourished when there is true interest and excitement, which often means project-based instruction, where teachers act as mentors and guides to the material. None of this is particularly new: many others have advocated this form of education, starting with John Dewey in the early 1900s. But changes in teaching can not take place without changes in the curriculum and in the way we assess students. We need to rethink the curriculum, for today, we try to cram everything we think the student will ever need to know into their heads in a relatively short period. Instead, we need to train curiosity, self-reliance, cooperative skills, and knowledge of how to learn on their own, knowledge that will be of value for the 2/3 of their lives that remain after the completion of formal schooling. ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 09:51:33 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 04:51:33 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021004061919.32106.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: niggling? that really disgusts me, dont be a racist. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:19 AM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based discussion forum whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically forwarded to everyone else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post whatever and whenever one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received by EVERYONE (unless the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are posting to and reading messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from 'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' is called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this sort, which runs on *nix/Linux servers. In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and anyone can reply to any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and condescending persona, that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to adopt, as long as there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and others around here prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no better and no worse than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come to inhabit this list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. When somebody comes around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an intelligent adult, then I will respond in kind. But until then... I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and your sycophantic stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling over every minute detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my intellectual superiority and just keep your bullshit to yourself. I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty bullshit or flaming, old-crone niggling that anybody shall henceforth cast in my direction. Legitimate, intelligent discussion and debate I will of course answer, but any of this childish petty squabbling I will completely ignore. NOW on to more important matters... --- pyro sawp wrote: > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > > The word was concour, not conour. It doesn't just mean "agree", so you're wrong on that > also. > > > > >To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur that he shut > the > >fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for no reason > at > >all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor compelling. > > Do you know either of them? do you know if they know each other or have spent time > talking? No > you don't. So making an assumption that he is being obnoxious to a person for no reason > just > makes you look like an ass who doesn't have any facts but still feels the need to > "butt" in on > a message that wasn't directed towards him. > > >It > >just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. Many people > >here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to flame, > argue > >with, and attack me for saying it. > > > > Scream flame all you want, I see you still havn't found out what a discussion list is. > Everytime someone counters something you say you scream flame or attack, sounds like > something > a "small-minded moron" would do. > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --┼eК₪XمugK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 10:01:41 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 02:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Dan Clowes' comic strip, "On Sports" Message-ID: <20021004090141.4509.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> All this talk about homosexuality brings to mind this comic strip by my favorite artiste, Daniel G. Clowes! Clowes is a fellow native Chicagoan and a genius to boot! This is one of his older comics, from the pages of his legendary Eightball comics from the early 1990's (remember those?). This is quite a large (1503232 bytes) GIF file, but I could not resize it any smaller nor compress it any more without rendering the small text illegible. It is however very funny and WELL worth the long download. It's sort of a mock-Freudian interpretation of sporting games with lots of bizarre psycho-sexual rhetoric and goofy imagery. Enjoy! http://207.208.214.2/~web_data/previous/files/Dan_Clowes--On_Sports.gif ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 15:13:57 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What about old ladies? Do you find old ladies cute?=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Mr Peanut wrote: > I fucking hate chicks, little chripping blond pieces of shit. They do=20 > nothing but annoy me and "look cute". That goes for women as well. > > > >In a message dated 10/1/02 2:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org writes: > > > > > > > you will > > > soon be locking doors from all the myraids of chicks > > > >then he probably isn't too smart. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.=20 > http://www.hotmail.com >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 15:48:21 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021004144821.58650.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> What are you, some kind of mormon or something? --- arcmna wrote: > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more > heterosexual than you, > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's > gay? I think > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden > rage from > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > extreme example > of this. > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > friends who happen > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > disgusted by > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > fags in general, > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to > Kenny G. > > --- arcmna wrote: > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > dickhead. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > >I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > >zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > >posted > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > wrote > > > > back in the > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > >everything > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > >reading > > > > my email while > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > > >into > > > > Spanish using > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > Dino > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > hook > > >is, > > > > while reading > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > >bumbling > > > > translator > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > snorting > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which > has > > >been > > > > weirdly > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike > with > > >the > > > > foot your > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > seconds. > > >I > > > > felt like a > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > > explained to the > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd > seen > > >on > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > > >the > > > > only excuse I > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I > was > > > > acting like a > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, > then > > > > continued her > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > > something in her > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > >apologized > > > > silently to the > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old > me > > >has > > > > gone > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >===== > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 15:53:52 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021004061919.32106.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based discussion forum > whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically forwarded to everyone > else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post whatever and whenever > one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received by EVERYONE (unless > the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are posting to and reading > messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from 'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' is > called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this sort, which runs on > *nix/Linux servers. > > In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and anyone can reply to > any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. Your expository style frightens me greatly. It reminds me of a graphics design book I once had to read where I decided to just pick up a pen and cross out all the unnecessary sentences. After 2/3rds of a couple pages was gone, I still felt like my mind was learning about as much as it would be at an assembly line. In particular, I'm addressing your digression. Your overall intent in this post seems to have been to (and I paused thinking here for a minute) perhaps say that we are allowed freedom of speech on the list, and you have no interest to engage in insignificant battles of insignificance with such insignificant little figures as pirate soap and probably mrpeanut. Now, considering this what you were trying to convey, for what purpose did you tell us that "majordomo" is a popular e-mail forum program? Why exactly did you technically define a discussion list in a whole paragraph? Your last sentence could have done the job by itself, it is the only part of text that I see above that actually pertained to what I believe you were trying to say. Unless, of course, your intent was to educate us on the technical attributes of a list. > Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and condescending persona, > that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to adopt, as long as That is very wonderful. Could you please explain the reasons of why you elected this persona in particular? It could never have been to counter the persona you described in your college class earlier, where you go to the length of "silently" apologizing to a teacher, and pretending that you were paying attention to the poor female's heart-filled speech about whatever. Regarding that incident, generally when a person is speaking and someone during that speech is reminded of a TV show and laughs about it, it would really make the speaker feel wonderful about how much attention he or she is soaking up from his or her listeners. (Although if the speech was boring I would feel no need to pretend that it wasn't.) > there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and others around here > prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no better and no worse > than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come to inhabit this The people I believe you are referring to I have actually seen on the list for at least a year. Are you using an average-life-spanning human's timescale, or the earth's timescale to make this judgement? > list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. When somebody comes > around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an intelligent adult, then I > will respond in kind. But until then... If I didn't know any better, it would sound to me like you are proposing that we rid ourselves of humor and establish a more corporate "it's all business" approach. Perhaps you should go to a theatre. > I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and your sycophantic > stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling over every minute > detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my intellectual superiority > and just keep your bullshit to yourself. That was nice. A big wall of "intelligent adult" words, finally coming to a shatter and from it emerging a frustrated prophanity. These sycopantic stooges must really be getting on your nerves of steel today. You just can't take it anymore, so intensely overwhelming is their unsettling and boisterous approach to you on the list. > I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty bullshit or Why not "In conclusion, ..." or perhaps "To summarize the above statements, ..." Or better yet! "If you vote for me, ..." > flaming, old-crone niggling that anybody shall henceforth cast in my direction. > Legitimate, intelligent discussion and debate I will of course answer, but any of this > childish petty squabbling I will completely ignore. You are beginning to sound like a nervous wreck, who would want to engage in a legitimate, intelligent discussion after that? It sounds like your words have gone astray from the course of your mind's intention to convey ideas. Perhaps you are using too many of them. > NOW on to more important matters... Ah yes! The following posts that I shall receive from you shall be filled with astonishingly legitimate and intelligent important matters. I should just go and filter all those old-crone nigglers so I can live in my own little world. (What do old crones have to do with this?) From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 16:18:30 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating In-Reply-To: <20021004065401.91255.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > I was given a bunch of design-related websites to peruse as part of a class assignment. > This was among the writings on one of the pages. Don Norman is a famous designer, one of > the main advocates of 'user-centric' design theory--a practical approach that stresses > functionality and ease of use above all else. I take it this is your long-awaited attempt to instigate an important discussion. So, what are we discussing? Oh, you didn't show an opinion. You only quoted. Okay, back to the pillow. > This is an article he wrote about schooling: > ____________________________________________ > > Don Norman -- In Defense of Cheating He sounds like a politician seeking a vote. The whole time he is saying "pick me to do the work, I will fix it!" Why doesn't he just write about these tactics and problems instead of summarizing them and advertising himself? > Preamble: No, I am not in favor of deception, trickery, fraud, or swindle. What I wish to > change are the curriculum and examination practices of our school systems that insist on > unaided work, arbitrary learning of irrelevant and uninteresting facts. I'd like to move > them toward an emphasis on understanding, on knowing how to get to an answer rather than > knowing the answer, and on cooperation rather than isolation. Cheating that involves > deceit is, of course wrong, but we should examine the school practices that lead to > cheating: change the practices, and the deceit will naturally diminish. What have we learned here? Hmm. That uh, students cheat. Wait, we knew that already. Oh! We learned some cool synonyms for "cheat." Although he left out "hornswoggle," "bamboozle," "hoodwink," "dupe..." Okay, so I guess I know more synonyms than him. What else did we learn? That altering the root of the problem alters the problem itself, except he said this regarding his subject matter only? What kind of circumlocution is that? > Students cheat. There is no way of avoiding this fact. Students hand in homework and > project assignments copied from others, or written by their parents, or even purchased. > Students copy from one another on examinations, and they try to discover advance > information about examinations. When cheating involves deceit, trickery, fraud, or > swindle it must be prohibited. But the proper solution to the problem is not through > prohibition and punishment: it is through examination of the sources. Why do even our > best students feel compelled either to cheat, or to help other students, or to watch > while others cheat, without taking action. I believe that the root cause of cheating in > our school systems lies with inappropriate curricula and examinations. Change the > practices and the cheating should naturally diminish. New paragraph. "Students cheat." Didn't we learn that in the last paragraph? "There is no way of avoiding this fact." Wow. That's very deep. I wish I would avoid it, but I cannot. Oh, the god forasken bane. Woe is me! "Students copy from one another on examinations, and they try to discover advance information about examinations." Doesn't that essentialyl mean the same thing as "students cheat?" Then, we learn the synonyms again. Maybe reading them twice will allow them to settle in our mind for later use. Too bad we already knew them. Then he starts his vote talk. Without at first using the word "I," he starts off bashing the current schooling techniques (which are obviously flawed but that is common knowledge,) and then he proposes a very ambiguous approach. (Because he isn't telling us what he found by examining these sources. He isn't telling us anything.) Then he again reiterates. He also decides to start a sentence with "why" and not finish it with a question mark. It is probably to hint that his unorthodox methods will be our light to the enlightenment of our children. Then, he finally throws in the word "I." In other words, "vote for me." (I hope you aren't planning on saying something along the lines of that he was not electioneering. That would be extremely defensive, and by my standards, digressive too.) And, he again repeats the earlier statement about the root of the problem, yet again offering absolutely no solution to it. > Consider this: in many ways, the behavior we call cheating in schools is exactly the > behavior we desire in the real world. Think about it. What behavior do we call cheating > in the school system? Asking others for help, copying answers, copying papers. "Consider this" and "think about it" mean the same thing. Also, sentence 1 starting at the colon, and sentences 3 and 4 are saying the same thing. Can you cross out the excess rambling? > Most of these activities are better called ... I don't know why you got him cut off there, but it sounded like he was going to tutor us with another synonym lesson. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 16:35:14 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating In-Reply-To: <20021004065726.97015.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Hmmm... strange. It didn't send the whole thing. Here it is (hopefully in= its entirety). Ahh! Thank you. I was almost beginning to feel sad that I did not get to learn new synonyms. I am beginning to run out of time, so I'll make this a little more brief than before. Or I will try to.=20 > Most of these activities are better called "networking" or "cooperative w= ork." In the I knew those synonyms.=20 > workplace these behaviors are encouraged and rewarded. Thus, many experts= will tell you > that their real expertise lies not in what they know but rather in who th= ey know: that > is, expertise is often knowing whom to ask and where to look. When we hav= e problems in > the real world, we want answers, no matter the source, which means search= ing to find > someone else who has experienced the same problem, asking others for help= , and > cooperating.=20 I think he just took the last paragraph from the previous e-mail and re-phrased it again. Was this paper aimed at morons who need things to be repeated to them before they understand? =20 > Cooperative Versus Individual Work > In schools we over-emphasize individual work. Perhaps the only place wher= e individual, > isolated work is encouraged and cooperative work punished is in the schoo= l systems. In Watch this: Take the meaning of what he just said and see if you can rephrase it in about 6 lines with a few digressive things here and there. Now, compare your creation to the following. > examinations, not only is it prohibited to copy other's work or to ask ot= hers for help, > but it usually isn't possible to refer to books or, oh my goodness, the I= nternet. Yet > these are all important skills in the world outside of schools. Students = should be taught > how to work effectively in teams, how to use reference works, how to use = the Internet > effectively, and especially how to find the significant from the non-sign= ificant, to > distinguish quality from nonsense.=20 Ahh! New classes then. "Teamwork," "Effective Internet Use," "Riddling." Wait, don't they already have those, except they're called something else and nevertheless don't accomplish anything? =20 > Our instructional philosophies are short-sighted. This insistence upon un= aided, > individual work is the result of the long-established policy of grading: = each individual > is ranked through the assignment of a numerical or letter score that is m= eant to reflect > their mastery of the subject matter. But does it? First of all, are the e= xaminations > effective? Do they encourage understanding or do they emphasize the arbit= rary recitation > of material that is examinable. We know from our own experience, supporte= d by numerous > formal studies, that students cram for exams, regurgitate the material at= exam time, and > seldom retain it afterwards.=20 No, we do not need people to work alone anymore. The corporate world no longer has room for loners like Aristotle or Freud or Mozart, we now must accomplish things together. Lets propose a new system that will fail just as quickly.=20 =20 > How much better to reward procedures for coming up with answers. Emphasiz= e understanding > of the issues and knowledge of how to gain insight and resolution. Emphas= ize cooperation. Again his mysterious persona kicks in here and starts off with "how" and no question mark. That's a repetition. He also repeated "emphasize" twice in a very boring way. And I still have learned absolutely nothing.=20 > Consider plagiarization. The sin of plagiarization is not that it involve= s copying -- > this should be rewarded -- but that it doesn't give credit for the origin= ator. Deceit is > wrong: it should be avoided. The problem is that the current system of ho= mework and > examinations emphasize the individual activity, oftentimes in sterile, me= aningless > exercises, ones that are easy to grade. Grades are important in determini= ng the future of > each student, even though they measure only a fraction of a person's abil= ity and > potential, and quite often do a poor job even of the aspects they pretend= to measure. It > is no wonder that teachers teach to the exam, that students study for the= exam, that true > understanding and exploration of issues is discouraged if it will detract= from time that > could be spent studying for the exam. The grading system, moreover, is of= ten on a curve, > with a fixed percentage of students receiving each letter grade. This mea= ns it is a > zero-sum game: a person can only get a higher grade if someone else recei= ves a lower > grade.=20 "Deceit is wrong: it should be avoided." So, he's using the colon as a synonym for the word "therefore." How frantic. Then he tells us we have a problem again. Then he talks about grades again. Then he again tells us that the current system is failing. And to top it off, he boggles our mind with a complex "zero-sum game" formula.=20 =20 > No wonder the intense competition, no wonder the cramming for exams, no w= onder cheating > -- anything to get ahead. No wonder copying without attribution, for the = students feel > compelled to lie: the student who finds just the perfect essay and presen= ts it to the > instructor receives no credit if the essay was written by someone else. B= ut suppose the > student got credit for finding the essay, that the reward was based upon = just how > relevant and insightful that essay really was? And if both the student wh= o presented the > essay and the originator of the essay received credit?=20 He repeated "no wonder" 4 times. I think when he was little his mom made him stare at a spinning record player non-stop.=20 Regarding his questions, they sound too euphoric to be true. He is making it sound like his proposition can magically alter the mind of all teachers to actually judge relevancy and insighfulness. Alas, but few can truly do that. This is the core of the problem of his educational system, should it ever be in effect. Let's look at the root of the problem, then alter it, and maybe it will alter the problem too! WEE! Big fun.=20 You do know that I wouldn't be reading this if I wasn't so eager to find out what you meant by "important, legitimate, intelligent conversations," right? On the other hand, since I'm here, I take great joy in pointing out stupid things in bad writing. So, I will continue that task with the rest of this document at a later time.=20 =20 > This is a tricky concept. Thus, if one student writes a paper and another= simply copies > it, no, that's not what we are trying to encourage, not even if full cred= it is given to > the original. The goal is to support cooperative work, where everyone con= tributes, each > according to their abilities, but that those abilities are recorded and b= ecome part of > the student transcript. In other words, the goal is not to rank order the= students by > some arbitrary mark of performance measure, which is what grades do, but = rather to > determine a student's true attributes and skills and to record them accur= ately. Some > students are scholars, others leaders. Some are team players, others not.= Some are > generalists, others specialists. The goal is accurate characterization. W= e do not need > value judgments among the attributes: society needs all of them.=20 >=20 > In a system where copying is punished, the student feels compelled to lie= =2E Suppose that > copying were encouraged -- honest copying, where the source must be revea= led. And suppose > that both the copier and the originator of the material were rewarded, th= e originator for > their contribution and the copier for knowing where to seek the informati= on. This would > reinforce the correct behaviors, minimize deceit, and encourage cooperati= veness.=20 >=20 > Take a tip from the "recommendation" sites on the Internet, where contrib= utors are rated > on the basis of their effectiveness and usefulness to others. We should g= rade students on > their effectiveness in forming coalitions in organizing groups, and in th= e nature of > their contributions to the group work. Thus, if one person is frequently = copied, that > person's stature as a contributor should rise. Similarly, if a person mak= es no original > contribution, but is effective at forming coalitions that solve problems,= that person's > status as an organizer should rise.=20 >=20 > We could change the educational system to make it more relevant to the wo= rld, to teach > proper social skills, and at the same time eliminate the deceitful, hidde= n acts of > cheating by recognizing cheating for the good that it brings: group activ= ities toward a > common end.=20 >=20 > Mastery Grading > Today, the grading system fosters a competitive, zero-sum game spirit in = which if one > student wins, the others lose. I have long been bothered by the system of= grading on the > curve, forcing students to compete rather than cooperate. I favor grading= to absolute > standards. Determine what is to be learned and measure how successful eac= h student is in > their accomplishments. If every student gets an A, hurrah! It means every= student has > learned.=20 >=20 > If every student gets an A, this does not mean that all students are equa= l. Not at all: > some students can accomplish more than others, and this difference should= be noted. But > suppose we replace the fixed curriculum and its rigid grading scheme with= a new procedure > in which different students would do different work and their "grade" wou= ld be a list of > their accomplishments? Evaluate students on their mastery level: mastery = grading. In > addition, evaluate them on their ability to work with others, either by b= eing a > productive team member, by organizing the team, or by their ability to co= ntribute toward > the solution.=20 >=20 > Suppose the grading system measured level of accomplishment. Suppose the = school > curriculum were divided into modules of useful knowledge or skills, each = relatively small > (a week or two of class, perhaps even a few hours). Each student is mento= red, and the > module is marked as complete only when the student masters it. In other w= ords, grade on a > "Pass" basis. But only use "Pass" -- do not use a "Fail" or "Not-Pass" gr= ade. A student > either knows the stuff or doesn't, and in the latter case, the student is= encouraged to > keep learning.=20 >=20 > Some modules should be mandatory: some optional. Schools could require th= at students > complete the mandatory modules as well as a specified number of others, p= erhaps requiring > a distribution across disciplines. The major structure of a curriculum ne= ed not change. > The major point of mastery grading is that evaluation specifies the modul= es completed > rather than today's attempt at measuring the quality of accomplishment of= a fixed-length > course. A student transcript would list the set of modules completed sati= sfactorily.=20 >=20 > Admission to higher grades or to universities -- or even employment -- co= uld be based > upon what students know. Schools or employers would not look at grade poi= nt averages, > rather they would judge students by their particular skills, by their abi= lity to work in > teams, and by the set of modules that they have mastered.=20 >=20 > Note that changing to modular education with mastery grading also means c= hanging today's > system of lock-step education. Today, if students fail at some topic, whe= n they are moved > to the next grade, they no longer have exposure to it, even if they wish = to. In a modular > system, students could study the modules they need or that they are inter= ested in, > regardless of grade level.=20 >=20 > In the end, the students possess a list of topics that they understand. S= ome will have > completed many modules, some just the minimum required. Some will have mo= dules that > reflect a broad range of topics, some more narrow, but deeper knowledge. = Instead of > arbitrary ranking through grade-point averages, each student is character= ized by their > accomplishments.=20 >=20 > Restructuring the School System > In this essay, I focus upon changes to curriculum and instruction that wo= uld change the > emphasis in school systems from that of competition to cooperation, from = arbitrary > grading on the curve to mastery assessment of a student's accomplishments= =2E But these > changes are only part of the restructuring required of our educational sy= stems. Many more > changes are needed.=20 >=20 > We need to get away from the lecture-centered method of teaching. We need= to emphasize > "learning," not "teaching." Teaching is about the teacher. Learning is ab= out the student. > The emphasis should be on doing, on activities: "learning by doing."=20 >=20 > Yes, depth of understanding should be encouraged, but this is best nouris= hed when there > is true interest and excitement, which often means project-based instruct= ion, where > teachers act as mentors and guides to the material. None of this is parti= cularly new: > many others have advocated this form of education, starting with John Dew= ey in the early > 1900s. But changes in teaching can not take place without changes in the = curriculum and > in the way we assess students.=20 >=20 > We need to rethink the curriculum, for today, we try to cram everything w= e think the > student will ever need to know into their heads in a relatively short per= iod. Instead, we > need to train curiosity, self-reliance, cooperative skills, and knowledge= of how to learn > on their own, knowledge that will be of value for the 2/3 of their lives = that remain > after the completion of formal schooling.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 20:34:17 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021004144821.58650.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021004193417.95693.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend now. I have had more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole lot. In the times when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, personal, sexually active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the field,' so to speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at this point and just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my confessions: I am not a stranger to the 'singles bar' scene (albeit an inner-city, hardcore punk-rock-type version of the singles bar--such establishments here in Chicago have been known by names like, 'Smart Bar,''Club Dreamerz,''The Hound's Tooth,''EXIT,''Neo,''Lounge Ax,''The G-Spot' and 'Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center,' wherein one is free to 'git wit tha honeyz,' and pick up girls/boys as often as one chooses. Of course, I proceeded to 'sow my wild oats,' as I 'dipped my spoon in the honey pot,' times too numerous to mention. I was lucky enough to have even had a couple girlfriends who were bisexual and adventuresome, thus enabling me to participate in a few so-called 'threesomes' and at least one 'orgy.' Those situations may have involved multiple females, but I was, on all but one occasion, the only male present--and even in that one single situation, my (male) friend and I did not engage in any faggotry; we were interested only in pleasing the ladies. This situation occurred, strangely enough, on the evening of the Chicago Gay Pride Parade! I was hanging out with my bisexual girlfriend, who was there to meet up with some of her friends from high school. After the parade, we ended up at this party at a lesbian couples' apartment, where all the partiers, save for me and one other (straight) guy I had met about an hour earlier (who also happened to be there with a bisexual girlfriend) were either bisexual, or full-on lesbians. I remember we were in the living room, reclining on this huge oval-shaped bed with tens of various-sized pillows, which also served as their sofa(!). There was a joint going around, and we were all stoned and watching a movie on the TV, a film called 'Go Fish' which was made by a local Chicago lesbo filmmaker (who, BTW, happened to be my neighbor a few years earlier--she lived in the coach-house behind my apartment, while she was in the process of editing that picture. She'd showed the unedited rushes to my then roommate & me over at her apartment once, while her angry, bitchy girlfriend slammed things around and made an embarrassing scene around the house). Anyway this one girl across the room, sitting on the floor kept looking and smiling at me. The one guy who was there also looked at me, started grinning like a lunatic, then gave me the 'thumbs-up' sign. I busted out laughing! My girlfriend was getting a backrub from another old friend of hers, so I just joined in too, massaging my girlfriend, and then starting on her friend. We 3 just traded off massages and before I knew it, about 7 of us, including the girl from across the room, were all semi-naked on the bed. It was all good fun, as long as I just kept my eyes off the other guy--because the very sight of his naked ass made me go a big rubbery one! The entire thing ended up being a totally isolated incident. About 3 weeks afterward, my girlfriend moved away to San Francisco (she'd been planning it since long before we met), and apart from a single visit I made to her (and her new boyfriend) about a year later, I haven't seen her again. We sometimes email each other, but not very often anymore. Later on, several times when I was driving the taxi, I ran into some of the women I 'met' that night. It was usually pretty awkward, but we kinda broke the ice by joking around like old friends. One of the girls, I have seen many times since--and she mentions it almost every time we meet (ugh!). Once I picked up a large group of her friends and her in my taxi from a local nightclub called Crobar. She got in and said, really loudly, (speaking to me, but obviously for the sole benefit of all her friends) "Hey! -----! I know you! I fucked you once! We had that big orgy! Remember? How have you been? You still fucking five, six girls at once?" It was so embarrassing. There were some very attractive women in the car with her, who I wouldn't mind getting to know, since at the time I had been 'unoccupied.' This has to be about the wildest sexual thing I have ever taken part in, involving several people at the same time who I didn't even know at all. At least I wore condoms for the entire occasion! I have not even told my current girlfriend about this event, because I know she'd freak out. There was another bisexual girlfriend I'd had prior to this occurrence, and we had had a few threesomes, but it ended up tearing our relationship apart. We had differing expectations and needs in the relationship, and I knew she was cheating on me behind my back, so I did the same. I guess neither of us were ready to be monogamous at the time. For several years now I have been what they call a 'serial monogamist,' going from monogamous relationship to monogamous relationship, with periods of 'playing the field' and occasional one-nighters in between. So that's me. I have been 100% honest here, and as you can see I am not gay. I have been a bit sleazy at times, I admit, but I am not a queer. I like the way women are shaped, and the way they behave too much. Men are sexually disgusting to me. They're fine for friends or drinking buddies, whatever, but for sex? Uuunggh! Yuck. --- Colonel Panic wrote: > What are you, some kind of mormon or something? > > --- arcmna wrote: > > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more > > heterosexual than you, > > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's > > gay? I think > > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden > > rage from > > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > > extreme example > > of this. > > > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > friends who happen > > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > > disgusted by > > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > > fags in general, > > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to > > Kenny G. > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > > dickhead. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > > >I > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > > >zine. > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > > >posted > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > > wrote > > > > > back in the > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > > >everything > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > > >reading > > > > > my email while > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > > > >into > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > > Dino > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > > hook > > > >is, > > > > > while reading > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > > >bumbling > > > > > translator > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > snorting > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which > > has > > > >been > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike > > with > > > >the > > > > > foot your > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > > seconds. > > > >I > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd > > seen > > > >on > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > > > >the > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I > > was > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, > > then > > > > > continued her > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > > > something in her > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > >apologized > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old > > me > > > >has > > > > > gone > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 21:38:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021004203836.20834.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Dude, I think you are taking that last post of mine waaaay too seriously. I was being facetious about most of it. The reason I defined 'discussion list' in my own excessively garrulous style is because 'Penis Saw' (or whatever his nick is supposed to mean) inferred that I don't know what one is. He also, in his infinite wisdom, warned me that I was butting in on a post directed to someone else, and I intended to subtly imply that when one posts to a list like this, a DISCUSSION LIST, the post goes to EVERYBODY, so anyone can reply to it. Furthermore, Mr. 'Python Suppository' seems to be under the impression that 'discussion list' means "DIS CUSSIN' LIST" --and that he's supposed to vulgarly insult and swear at everything everybody posts. There's a reason they call it 'flaming' --the person posting with that type of attitude sounds like a bitchy fag or a sour old woman. The persona I have adopted is just fun to write in. I can answer just about any post, and be rude if I like, fuck with people, or not. And I like to share ideas, highbrow, and lowbrow ones alike, so I feel it sorta fits to act like the classic obnoxious, know-it-all ass, since so many others around here lately behave like other varieties of ass--mostly like obnoxious adolescents (yes, you're right, when I say 'lately' I mean about a year or so now, pretty much since YahooGroups nixed the list and the last of the old list members disappeared--save for a precious few--like RTF, Linear, Nevarmore, et al. -- I have been posting on the PLA list since like 1998-99.) Ask RBCP. The list used to be different. People would actually TALK about things. Discuss ideas. Cooperate on projects together. It was actually fun! If somebody posted with a problem, they'd get a variety of answers and questions in the spirit of helping. Not like now, where you get a few people reiterating the same old post and calling them an idiot for asking for help. Of course back then there were a few lame, bad-tempered idiots, but nobody paid attention to them. Even though the attitude I often cop around here (the self-righteous know-it-all who corrects everybody and always complains about stupidity) is admittedly a contrived, self-conscious persona, I DO honestly regret that when I try to share ideas and other stuff with the list, the most vocal people are a bunch of lowest-common-denominators who nitpick with a ridiculous overabundance of vitriol over the tiniest details. I guess they must feel that approach will make them appear wickedly witty and dangerously intelligent. In reality, they just look like a bunch of dumb kids who are acting mean to cover up how unimaginative and stupid they really are. It is the most common trick on the elementary school playground. Who knows--if they were ever to voice an idea, somebody might think it is stupid, and they will reveal to the world their lack of 'ph33rsum hax0r skills!' When in reality, that shit doesn't matter at all. Bulllshit lousy attitudes are trite and boring, overdone and limited. And I don't find them fun anymore. So I will ignore. --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based discussion forum > > whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically forwarded to > everyone > > else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post whatever and > whenever > > one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received by EVERYONE > (unless > > the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are posting to and > reading > > messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from 'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' > is > > called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this sort, which runs > on > > *nix/Linux servers. > > > > In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and anyone can reply > to > > any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. > > Your expository style frightens me greatly. It reminds me of a graphics > design book I once had to read where I decided to just pick up a pen and > cross out all the unnecessary sentences. After 2/3rds of a couple pages > was gone, I still felt like my mind was learning about as much as it would > be at an assembly line. > > In particular, I'm addressing your digression. Your overall intent in this > post seems to have been to (and I paused thinking here for a minute) > perhaps say that we are allowed freedom of speech on the list, and you > have no interest to engage in insignificant battles of insignificance with > such insignificant little figures as pirate soap and probably mrpeanut. > Now, considering this what you were trying to convey, for what purpose did > you tell us that "majordomo" is a popular e-mail forum program? Why > exactly did you technically define a discussion list in a whole paragraph? > Your last sentence could have done the job by itself, it is the only part > of text that I see above that actually pertained to what I believe you > were trying to say. Unless, of course, your intent was to educate us on > the technical attributes of a list. > > > Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and condescending > persona, > > that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to adopt, as long > as > > That is very wonderful. Could you please explain the reasons of why you > elected this persona in particular? It could never have been to counter > the persona you described in your college class earlier, where you go to > the length of "silently" apologizing to a teacher, and pretending that you > were paying attention to the poor female's heart-filled speech about > whatever. Regarding that incident, generally when a person is speaking and > someone during that speech is reminded of a TV show and laughs about it, > it would really make the speaker feel wonderful about how much attention > he or she is soaking up from his or her listeners. (Although if the speech > was boring I would feel no need to pretend that it wasn't.) > > > there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and others around > here > > prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no better and no worse > > than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come to inhabit > this > > The people I believe you are referring to I have actually seen on the list > for at least a year. Are you using an average-life-spanning human's > timescale, or the earth's timescale to make this judgement? > > > list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. When somebody > comes > > around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an intelligent adult, then > I > > will respond in kind. But until then... > > If I didn't know any better, it would sound to me like you are proposing > that we rid ourselves of humor and establish a more corporate "it's all > business" approach. Perhaps you should go to a theatre. > > > I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and your > sycophantic > > stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling over every > minute > > detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my intellectual > superiority > > and just keep your bullshit to yourself. > > That was nice. A big wall of "intelligent adult" words, finally coming to > a shatter and from it emerging a frustrated prophanity. These sycopantic > stooges must really be getting on your nerves of steel today. You just > can't take it anymore, so intensely overwhelming is their unsettling and > boisterous approach to you on the list. > > > I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty bullshit or > > Why not "In conclusion, ..." or perhaps "To summarize the above > statements, ..." Or better yet! "If you vote for me, ..." > > > flaming, old-crone niggling that anybody shall henceforth cast in my direction. > > Legitimate, intelligent discussion and debate I will of course answer, but any of > this > > childish petty squabbling I will completely ignore. > > You are beginning to sound like a nervous wreck, who would want to engage > in a legitimate, intelligent discussion after that? It sounds like your > words have gone astray from the course of your mind's intention to convey > ideas. Perhaps you are using too many of them. > > > NOW on to more important matters... > > Ah yes! The following posts that I shall receive from you shall be filled > with astonishingly legitimate and intelligent important matters. I should > just go and filter all those old-crone nigglers so I can live in my own > little world. (What do old crones have to do with this?) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 21:41:54 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021004204154.6650.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Um, you are reading only the first paragraph of the thing. It got cut off by my email client somehow. I discovered the error within a minute or two and re-posted it. If you're going to bitch and cry about it, at least read it in its entirety first. Thanks. --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > I was given a bunch of design-related websites to peruse as part of a class > assignment. > > This was among the writings on one of the pages. Don Norman is a famous designer, one > of > > the main advocates of 'user-centric' design theory--a practical approach that > stresses > > functionality and ease of use above all else. > > I take it this is your long-awaited attempt to instigate an important > discussion. So, what are we discussing? Oh, you didn't show an opinion. > You only quoted. Okay, back to the pillow. > > > This is an article he wrote about schooling: > > ____________________________________________ > > > > Don Norman -- In Defense of Cheating > > He sounds like a politician seeking a vote. The whole time he is saying > "pick me to do the work, I will fix it!" > > Why doesn't he just write about these tactics and problems instead of > summarizing them and advertising himself? > > > Preamble: No, I am not in favor of deception, trickery, fraud, or swindle. What I > wish to > > change are the curriculum and examination practices of our school systems that insist > on > > unaided work, arbitrary learning of irrelevant and uninteresting facts. I'd like to > move > > them toward an emphasis on understanding, on knowing how to get to an answer rather > than > > knowing the answer, and on cooperation rather than isolation. Cheating that involves > > deceit is, of course wrong, but we should examine the school practices that lead to > > cheating: change the practices, and the deceit will naturally diminish. > > What have we learned here? Hmm. That uh, students cheat. Wait, we knew > that already. Oh! We learned some cool synonyms for "cheat." Although he > left out "hornswoggle," "bamboozle," "hoodwink," "dupe..." Okay, so I > guess I know more synonyms than him. What else did we learn? That altering > the root of the problem alters the problem itself, except he said this > regarding his subject matter only? What kind of circumlocution is that? > > > Students cheat. There is no way of avoiding this fact. Students hand in homework and > > project assignments copied from others, or written by their parents, or even > purchased. > > Students copy from one another on examinations, and they try to discover advance > > information about examinations. When cheating involves deceit, trickery, fraud, or > > swindle it must be prohibited. But the proper solution to the problem is not through > > prohibition and punishment: it is through examination of the sources. Why do even our > > best students feel compelled either to cheat, or to help other students, or to watch > > while others cheat, without taking action. I believe that the root cause of cheating > in > > our school systems lies with inappropriate curricula and examinations. Change the > > practices and the cheating should naturally diminish. > > New paragraph. "Students cheat." Didn't we learn that in the last > paragraph? "There is no way of avoiding this fact." Wow. That's very deep. > I wish I would avoid it, but I cannot. Oh, the god forasken bane. Woe is > me! > > "Students copy from one another on examinations, and they try to discover > advance information about examinations." Doesn't that essentialyl mean the > same thing as "students cheat?" > > Then, we learn the synonyms again. Maybe reading them twice will allow > them to settle in our mind for later use. Too bad we already knew them. > > Then he starts his vote talk. Without at first using the word "I," he > starts off bashing the current schooling techniques (which are obviously > flawed but that is common knowledge,) and then he proposes a very > ambiguous approach. (Because he isn't telling us what he found by > examining these sources. He isn't telling us anything.) Then he again > reiterates. He also decides to start a sentence with "why" and not finish > it with a question mark. It is probably to hint that his unorthodox > methods will be our light to the enlightenment of our children. Then, he > finally throws in the word "I." In other words, "vote for me." (I hope you > aren't planning on saying something along the lines of that he was not > electioneering. That would be extremely defensive, and by my standards, > digressive too.) > > And, he again repeats the earlier statement about the root of the problem, > yet again offering absolutely no solution to it. > > > Consider this: in many ways, the behavior we call cheating in schools is exactly the > > behavior we desire in the real world. Think about it. What behavior do we call > cheating > > in the school system? Asking others for help, copying answers, copying papers. > > "Consider this" and "think about it" mean the same thing. Also, sentence > 1 starting at the colon, and sentences 3 and 4 are saying the same thing. > Can you cross out the excess rambling? > > > Most of these activities are better called > > ... > > I don't know why you got him cut off there, but it sounded like he was > going to tutor us with another synonym lesson. > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 21:55:34 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Thinking of sending this to 2600 Message-ID: <20021004205534.8627.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> I found this kinda funny. Should I maybe forward it to Emmanuel Goldstein? http://www.theonion.com/onion3836/riaa_sues_radio_stations.html ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 22:31:12 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:31:12 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021004144821.58650.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: respect -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:48 AM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! What are you, some kind of mormon or something? --- arcmna wrote: > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more > heterosexual than you, > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's > gay? I think > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden > rage from > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > extreme example > of this. > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > friends who happen > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > disgusted by > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > fags in general, > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to > Kenny G. > > --- arcmna wrote: > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > dickhead. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > >I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > >zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > >posted > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > wrote > > > > back in the > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > >everything > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > >reading > > > > my email while > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > > >into > > > > Spanish using > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > Dino > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > hook > > >is, > > > > while reading > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > >bumbling > > > > translator > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > snorting > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which > has > > >been > > > > weirdly > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike > with > > >the > > > > foot your > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > seconds. > > >I > > > > felt like a > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > > explained to the > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd > seen > > >on > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > > >the > > > > only excuse I > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I > was > > > > acting like a > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, > then > > > > continued her > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > > something in her > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > >apologized > > > > silently to the > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old > me > > >has > > > > gone > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >===== > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > === message truncated === ===== --┼eК₪XمugK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 22:51:21 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:51:21 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021004193417.95693.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: that was long and gay -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:34 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend now. I have had more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole lot. In the times when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, personal, sexually active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the field,' so to speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at this point and just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my confessions: I am not a stranger to the 'singles bar' scene (albeit an inner-city, hardcore punk-rock-type version of the singles bar--such establishments here in Chicago have been known by names like, 'Smart Bar,''Club Dreamerz,''The Hound's Tooth,''EXIT,''Neo,''Lounge Ax,''The G-Spot' and 'Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center,' wherein one is free to 'git wit tha honeyz,' and pick up girls/boys as often as one chooses. Of course, I proceeded to 'sow my wild oats,' as I 'dipped my spoon in the honey pot,' times too numerous to mention. I was lucky enough to have even had a couple girlfriends who were bisexual and adventuresome, thus enabling me to participate in a few so-called 'threesomes' and at least one 'orgy.' Those situations may have involved multiple females, but I was, on all but one occasion, the only male present--and even in that one single situation, my (male) friend and I did not engage in any faggotry; we were interested only in pleasing the ladies. This situation occurred, strangely enough, on the evening of the Chicago Gay Pride Parade! I was hanging out with my bisexual girlfriend, who was there to meet up with some of her friends from high school. After the parade, we ended up at this party at a lesbian couples' apartment, where all the partiers, save for me and one other (straight) guy I had met about an hour earlier (who also happened to be there with a bisexual girlfriend) were either bisexual, or full-on lesbians. I remember we were in the living room, reclining on this huge oval-shaped bed with tens of various-sized pillows, which also served as their sofa(!). There was a joint going around, and we were all stoned and watching a movie on the TV, a film called 'Go Fish' which was made by a local Chicago lesbo filmmaker (who, BTW, happened to be my neighbor a few years earlier--she lived in the coach-house behind my apartment, while she was in the process of editing that picture. She'd showed the unedited rushes to my then roommate & me over at her apartment once, while her angry, bitchy girlfriend slammed things around and made an embarrassing scene around the house). Anyway this one girl across the room, sitting on the floor kept looking and smiling at me. The one guy who was there also looked at me, started grinning like a lunatic, then gave me the 'thumbs-up' sign. I busted out laughing! My girlfriend was getting a backrub from another old friend of hers, so I just joined in too, massaging my girlfriend, and then starting on her friend. We 3 just traded off massages and before I knew it, about 7 of us, including the girl from across the room, were all semi-naked on the bed. It was all good fun, as long as I just kept my eyes off the other guy--because the very sight of his naked ass made me go a big rubbery one! The entire thing ended up being a totally isolated incident. About 3 weeks afterward, my girlfriend moved away to San Francisco (she'd been planning it since long before we met), and apart from a single visit I made to her (and her new boyfriend) about a year later, I haven't seen her again. We sometimes email each other, but not very often anymore. Later on, several times when I was driving the taxi, I ran into some of the women I 'met' that night. It was usually pretty awkward, but we kinda broke the ice by joking around like old friends. One of the girls, I have seen many times since--and she mentions it almost every time we meet (ugh!). Once I picked up a large group of her friends and her in my taxi from a local nightclub called Crobar. She got in and said, really loudly, (speaking to me, but obviously for the sole benefit of all her friends) "Hey! -----! I know you! I fucked you once! We had that big orgy! Remember? How have you been? You still fucking five, six girls at once?" It was so embarrassing. There were some very attractive women in the car with her, who I wouldn't mind getting to know, since at the time I had been 'unoccupied.' This has to be about the wildest sexual thing I have ever taken part in, involving several people at the same time who I didn't even know at all. At least I wore condoms for the entire occasion! I have not even told my current girlfriend about this event, because I know she'd freak out. There was another bisexual girlfriend I'd had prior to this occurrence, and we had had a few threesomes, but it ended up tearing our relationship apart. We had differing expectations and needs in the relationship, and I knew she was cheating on me behind my back, so I did the same. I guess neither of us were ready to be monogamous at the time. For several years now I have been what they call a 'serial monogamist,' going from monogamous relationship to monogamous relationship, with periods of 'playing the field' and occasional one-nighters in between. So that's me. I have been 100% honest here, and as you can see I am not gay. I have been a bit sleazy at times, I admit, but I am not a queer. I like the way women are shaped, and the way they behave too much. Men are sexually disgusting to me. They're fine for friends or drinking buddies, whatever, but for sex? Uuunggh! Yuck. --- Colonel Panic wrote: > What are you, some kind of mormon or something? > > --- arcmna wrote: > > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more > > heterosexual than you, > > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's > > gay? I think > > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden > > rage from > > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > > extreme example > > of this. > > > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > friends who happen > > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > > disgusted by > > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > > fags in general, > > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to > > Kenny G. > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > > dickhead. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > > >I > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > > >zine. > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > > >posted > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > > wrote > > > > > back in the > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > > >everything > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > > >reading > > > > > my email while > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > > > >into > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > > Dino > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > > hook > > > >is, > > > > > while reading > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > > >bumbling > > > > > translator > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > snorting > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which > > has > > > >been > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike > > with > > > >the > > > > > foot your > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > > seconds. > > > >I > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd > > seen > > > >on > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > > > >the > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I > > was > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, > > then > > > > > continued her > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > > > something in her > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > >apologized > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old > > me > > > >has > > > > > gone > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > === message truncated === ===== --┼eК₪XمugK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 23:51:58 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:51:58 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <200210042150.g94Lol609136@smtp2.ixpres.com> > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >The reason I defined 'discussion list' in my own excessively garrulous style is because >'Penis Saw' (or whatever his nick is supposed to mean) inferred that I don't know what >one is. He also, in his infinite wisdom, warned me that I was butting in on a post >directed to someone else, and I intended to subtly imply that when one posts to a list >like this, a DISCUSSION LIST, the post goes to EVERYBODY, so anyone can reply to it. >Furthermore, Mr. 'Python Suppository' seems to be under the impression that 'discussion >list' means "DIS CUSSIN' LIST" --and that he's supposed to vulgarly insult and swear at >everything everybody posts. There's a reason they call it 'flaming' --the person posting >with that type of attitude sounds like a bitchy fag or a sour old woman. > Obviously you must not be able to read, the post was that you were making assumptions when you had no idea what you were talking about. You see I am not making an assumption that you were making an assumption because I know the backgrounds of both. As for the "vulgarly insults," you seem to be the one posting vulgarities in every one of your posts, not I. You also seem to like to tell long boring personal life stories about how you are not gay. Who are you trying to convince? You sure do like to talk alot about penises and butts. And back to my post you mentioned, like I posted before, you obviouslly still do not know what a discussion list is. As for your definition of flaming, you are wrong about something, again. > >The persona I have adopted is just fun to write in. > Writing like a "sour old woman" when something isnt posted that goes along with your idea is a persona you have adopted. >-- I have been posting on the PLA list since like 1998-99.) You have not been posting on the list since then, since that would imply you were doing it regularly. Which is, of course, another lie. >If somebody posted with a problem, they'd get a >variety of answers and questions in the spirit of helping. Not like now, where you get a >few people reiterating the same old post and calling them an idiot for asking for help. Nobody has posted with problems, have they? Besides your posts asking for help then acting like an old hag when you didn't get responses you wanted.(You remember that? when you posted to an OPEN forum, and got responses you weren't looking for, then bitched about it? See discussion list again) > >Even though the attitude I often cop around here (the crybaby who wines about everything) >I DO honestly regret that when I try to share ideas and other >stuff with the list, the most vocal people are a bunch of lowest-common-denominators who >nitpick with a ridiculous overabundance of vitriol over the tiniest details. Yes, like getting kids arrested because they were too stupid to realize the pitfalls you didn't want pointed out. Very tiny details. > It is the most common trick on the elementary >school playground. Yes, crying about everything that doesn't go your way. > >Who knows--if they were ever to voice an idea, somebody might think it >is stupid, and they will reveal to the world their lack of 'ph33rsum hax0r skills!' > >When in reality, that shit doesn't matter at all. Bulllshit lousy attitudes are trite and >boring, overdone and limited. And I don't find them fun anymore. So I will ignore. > Sounds like someone has an inferiority complex. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 4 23:31:02 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:31:02 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <69.2e43ee50.2acf70a6@aol.com> --part1_69.2e43ee50.2acf70a6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/02 5:50:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, arcmna@softhome.net writes: > that was long and gay agreed- did we all really need to know all this?? --part1_69.2e43ee50.2acf70a6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/02 5:50:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, arcmna@softhome.net writes:


that was long and gay


agreed- did we all really need to know all this?? --part1_69.2e43ee50.2acf70a6_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 04:25:30 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:25:30 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: Hey dick sucker why are you telling me about a word I didnt use? > >Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > >To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur >that he shut the >fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people for >no reason at >all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor >compelling. It >just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. >Many people >here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going to >flame, argue >with, and attack me for saying it. > >--- Mr Peanut wrote: > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a >while. > > >I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking >Bunnies > > >zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > >posted > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP >wrote > > > > back in the > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > >everything > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > >reading > > > > my email while > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class >project... > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA >back-issues > > >into > > > > Spanish using > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the >Dino > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The >hook > > >is, > > > > while reading > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > >bumbling > > > > translator > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, >snorting > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which >has > > >been > > > > weirdly > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike >with > > >the > > > > foot your > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several >seconds. > > >I > > > > felt like a > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I >shamefully > > > > explained to the > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was >not > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd >seen > > >on > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it >was > > >the > > > > only excuse I > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I >was > > > > acting like a > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, >then > > > > continued her > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly >penned > > > > something in her > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > >apologized > > > > silently to the > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old >me > > >has > > > > gone > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super >fun > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >===== > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 04:26:47 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:26:47 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: You arent gay, just anal. I hate you fuckers, no one cares that you can define words, especially words used in everyday speech. > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because >he's gay? I think >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a >guilt-ridden rage from >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an >extreme example >of this. > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few >friends who happen >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly >disgusted by >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards >fags in general, >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen >to Kenny G. > >--- arcmna wrote: > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > dickhead. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a >while. > > >I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking >Bunnies > > >zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > >posted > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP >wrote > > > > back in the > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > >everything > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > >reading > > > > my email while > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class >project... > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA >back-issues > > >into > > > > Spanish using > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the >Dino > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The >hook > > >is, > > > > while reading > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > >bumbling > > > > translator > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, >snorting > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which >has > > >been > > > > weirdly > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike >with > > >the > > > > foot your > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several >seconds. > > >I > > > > felt like a > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I >shamefully > > > > explained to the > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was >not > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd >seen > > >on > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it >was > > >the > > > > only excuse I > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I >was > > > > acting like a > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, >then > > > > continued her > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly >penned > > > > something in her > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > >apologized > > > > silently to the > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old >me > > >has > > > > gone > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super >fun > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >===== > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 04:31:41 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:31:41 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Dan Clowes' comic strip, "On Sports" Message-ID: You talk to fucking much > > >All this talk about homosexuality brings to mind this comic strip by my >favorite artiste, >Daniel G. Clowes! > >Clowes is a fellow native Chicagoan and a genius to boot! This is one of >his older >comics, from the pages of his legendary Eightball comics from the early >1990's (remember >those?). > >This is quite a large (1503232 bytes) GIF file, but I could not resize it >any smaller nor >compress it any more without rendering the small text illegible. It is >however very funny >and WELL worth the long download. It's sort of a mock-Freudian >interpretation of sporting >games with lots of bizarre psycho-sexual rhetoric and goofy imagery. Enjoy! > >http://207.208.214.2/~web_data/previous/files/Dan_Clowes--On_Sports.gif > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 04:33:56 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:33:56 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic Message-ID: Who wants to join the committe to make Colonel Panic shut the fuck up. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 04:42:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:42:36 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My brother, jesus loves us all. We need not use such harsh language. -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:27 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! You arent gay, just anal. I hate you fuckers, no one cares that you can define words, especially words used in everyday speech. > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because >he's gay? I think >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a >guilt-ridden rage from >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an >extreme example >of this. > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few >friends who happen >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly >disgusted by >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards >fags in general, >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen >to Kenny G. > >--- arcmna wrote: > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > dickhead. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a >while. > > >I > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking >Bunnies > > >zine. > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > >posted > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP >wrote > > > > back in the > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > >everything > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > >reading > > > > my email while > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class >project... > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA >back-issues > > >into > > > > Spanish using > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the >Dino > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The >hook > > >is, > > > > while reading > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > >bumbling > > > > translator > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, >snorting > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which >has > > >been > > > > weirdly > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike >with > > >the > > > > foot your > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several >seconds. > > >I > > > > felt like a > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I >shamefully > > > > explained to the > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was >not > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd >seen > > >on > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it >was > > >the > > > > only excuse I > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I >was > > > > acting like a > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, >then > > > > continued her > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly >penned > > > > something in her > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > >apologized > > > > silently to the > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old >me > > >has > > > > gone > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! 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Oh now you've gone and done it. Get ready for a 75 page rebuttal f rom Colonel Panic. ===== My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 09:26:16 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:26:16 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic Message-ID: <200210050725.g957P7631960@smtp2.ixpres.com> Ill join once someone else starts posting. > >Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic > From: "Mr Peanut" > Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:33:56 -0400 > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Who wants to join the committe to make Colonel Panic shut the fuck up. > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 08:41:15 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021004193417.95693.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It makes one wonder when someone writes a whole 10 minutes worth of reading material only about how he is "not" gay. In fact, and not to be insulting here, but in all the truth, that spells out "denial." Or it could be your words running away from you also. ::shrug:: I'm not saying you are gay. I am just saying that for some reason you WANT everyone to know that you are NOT as though it is a big deal, even on this discussion list.=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: >=20 > I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend n= ow. I have had > more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole l= ot. In the times > when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, person= al, sexually > active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the= field,' so to > speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. >=20 > Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at = this point and > just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my= confessions: >=20 > I am not a stranger to the 'singles bar' scene (albeit an inner-city, har= dcore > punk-rock-type version of the singles bar--such establishments here in Ch= icago have been > known by names like, 'Smart Bar,''Club Dreamerz,''The Hound's Tooth,''EXI= T,''Neo,''Lounge > Ax,''The G-Spot' and 'Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center,' wherein one is free = to 'git wit tha > honeyz,' and pick up girls/boys as often as one chooses. Of course, I pro= ceeded to 'sow > my wild oats,' as I 'dipped my spoon in the honey pot,' times too numerou= s to mention. >=20 > I was lucky enough to have even had a couple girlfriends who were bisexua= l and > adventuresome, thus enabling me to participate in a few so-called 'threes= omes' and at > least one 'orgy.' Those situations may have involved multiple females, bu= t I was, on all > but one occasion, the only male present--and even in that one single situ= ation, my (male) > friend and I did not engage in any faggotry; we were interested only in p= leasing the > ladies. This situation occurred, strangely enough, on the evening of the = Chicago Gay > Pride Parade! I was hanging out with my bisexual girlfriend, who was ther= e to meet up > with some of her friends from high school. After the parade, we ended up = at this party at > a lesbian couples' apartment, where all the partiers, save for me and one= other > (straight) guy I had met about an hour earlier (who also happened to be t= here with a > bisexual girlfriend) were either bisexual, or full-on lesbians. >=20 > I remember we were in the living room, reclining on this huge oval-shaped= bed with tens > of various-sized pillows, which also served as their sofa(!). There was a= joint going > around, and we were all stoned and watching a movie on the TV, a film cal= led 'Go Fish' > which was made by a local Chicago lesbo filmmaker (who, BTW, happened to = be my neighbor a > few years earlier--she lived in the coach-house behind my apartment, whil= e she was in the > process of editing that picture. She'd showed the unedited rushes to my t= hen roommate & > me over at her apartment once, while her angry, bitchy girlfriend slammed= things around > and made an embarrassing scene around the house). > Anyway this one girl across the room, sitting on the floor kept looking a= nd smiling at > me. The one guy who was there also looked at me, started grinning like a = lunatic, then > gave me the 'thumbs-up' sign. I busted out laughing! My girlfriend was ge= tting a backrub > from another old friend of hers, so I just joined in too, massaging my gi= rlfriend, and > then starting on her friend. We 3 just traded off massages and before I k= new it, about 7 > of us, including the girl from across the room, were all semi-naked on th= e bed. It was > all good fun, as long as I just kept my eyes off the other guy--because t= he very sight of > his naked ass made me go a big rubbery one! >=20 > The entire thing ended up being a totally isolated incident. About 3 week= s afterward, my > girlfriend moved away to San Francisco (she'd been planning it since long= before we met), > and apart from a single visit I made to her (and her new boyfriend) about= a year later, I > haven't seen her again. We sometimes email each other, but not very often= anymore. Later > on, several times when I was driving the taxi, I ran into some of the wom= en I 'met' that > night. It was usually pretty awkward, but we kinda broke the ice by jokin= g around like > old friends. One of the girls, I have seen many times since--and she ment= ions it almost > every time we meet (ugh!). Once I picked up a large group of her friends = and her in my > taxi from a local nightclub called Crobar. She got in and said, really lo= udly, (speaking > to me, but obviously for the sole benefit of all her friends) "Hey! -----= ! I know you! I > fucked you once! We had that big orgy! Remember? How have you been? You s= till fucking > five, six girls at once?" It was so embarrassing. There were some very at= tractive women > in the car with her, who I wouldn't mind getting to know, since at the ti= me I had been > 'unoccupied.' >=20 > This has to be about the wildest sexual thing I have ever taken part in, = involving > several people at the same time who I didn't even know at all. At least I= wore condoms > for the entire occasion! I have not even told my current girlfriend about= this event, > because I know she'd freak out. There was another bisexual girlfriend I'd= had prior to > this occurrence, and we had had a few threesomes, but it ended up tearing= our > relationship apart. We had differing expectations and needs in the relati= onship, and I > knew she was cheating on me behind my back, so I did the same. I guess ne= ither of us were > ready to be monogamous at the time. >=20 > For several years now I have been what they call a 'serial monogamist,' g= oing from > monogamous relationship to monogamous relationship, with periods of 'play= ing the field' > and occasional one-nighters in between. >=20 > So that's me. I have been 100% honest here, and as you can see I am not g= ay. I have been > a bit sleazy at times, I admit, but I am not a queer. I like the way wome= n are shaped, > and the way they behave too much. Men are sexually disgusting to me. They= 're fine for > friends or drinking buddies, whatever, but for sex? Uuunggh! Yuck. >=20 >=20 > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > What are you, some kind of mormon or something? > >=20 > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far = more > > > heterosexual than you, > > > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply becau= se he's > > > gay? I think > > > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > >=20 > > > Homophobia =3D repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a gui= lt-ridden > > > rage from > > > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was = an > > > extreme example > > > of this. > > >=20 > > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > > friends who happen > > > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am fra= nkly > > > disgusted by > > > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towa= rds > > > fags in general, > > > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or li= sten to > > > Kenny G. > > >=20 > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > > > dickhead. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back= into > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a= while. > > > > >I > > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking = Bunnies > > > > >zine. > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is t= hat > > > > >posted > > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post R= PCP > > > wrote > > > > > > back in the > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenl= y > > > > >everything > > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a T= V > > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptiti= ously > > > > >reading > > > > > > my email while > > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class proj= ect... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-= issues > > > > >into > > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--= the > > > Dino > > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. = The > > > hook > > > > >is, > > > > > > while reading > > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the d= ual > > > > >bumbling > > > > > > translator > > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the ro= ugh > > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > > snorting > > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of = this > > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" w= hich > > > has > > > > >been > > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to st= rike > > > with > > > > >the > > > > > > foot your > > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > > > seconds. > > > > >I > > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I sham= efully > > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I = was not > > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment= I'd > > > seen > > > > >on > > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--= it was > > > > >the > > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, = and I > > > was > > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a sec= ond, > > > then > > > > > > continued her > > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly = penned > > > > > > something in her > > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > > >apologized > > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name= of > > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneak= y old > > > me > > > > >has > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk spac= e > > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings su= per fun > > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.= com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > >--=17┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > > > >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_weareho= pe.com > >=20 > =3D=3D=3D message truncated =3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 09:14:33 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 04:14:33 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i conour -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:41 AM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! It makes one wonder when someone writes a whole 10 minutes worth of reading material only about how he is "not" gay. In fact, and not to be insulting here, but in all the truth, that spells out "denial." Or it could be your words running away from you also. ::shrug:: I'm not saying you are gay. I am just saying that for some reason you WANT everyone to know that you are NOT as though it is a big deal, even on this discussion list. -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend now. I have had > more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole lot. In the times > when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, personal, sexually > active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the field,' so to > speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. > > Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at this point and > just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my confessions: > > I am not a stranger to the 'singles bar' scene (albeit an inner-city, hardcore > punk-rock-type version of the singles bar--such establishments here in Chicago have been > known by names like, 'Smart Bar,''Club Dreamerz,''The Hound's Tooth,''EXIT,''Neo,''Lounge > Ax,''The G-Spot' and 'Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center,' wherein one is free to 'git wit tha > honeyz,' and pick up girls/boys as often as one chooses. Of course, I proceeded to 'sow > my wild oats,' as I 'dipped my spoon in the honey pot,' times too numerous to mention. > > I was lucky enough to have even had a couple girlfriends who were bisexual and > adventuresome, thus enabling me to participate in a few so-called 'threesomes' and at > least one 'orgy.' Those situations may have involved multiple females, but I was, on all > but one occasion, the only male present--and even in that one single situation, my (male) > friend and I did not engage in any faggotry; we were interested only in pleasing the > ladies. This situation occurred, strangely enough, on the evening of the Chicago Gay > Pride Parade! I was hanging out with my bisexual girlfriend, who was there to meet up > with some of her friends from high school. After the parade, we ended up at this party at > a lesbian couples' apartment, where all the partiers, save for me and one other > (straight) guy I had met about an hour earlier (who also happened to be there with a > bisexual girlfriend) were either bisexual, or full-on lesbians. > > I remember we were in the living room, reclining on this huge oval-shaped bed with tens > of various-sized pillows, which also served as their sofa(!). There was a joint going > around, and we were all stoned and watching a movie on the TV, a film called 'Go Fish' > which was made by a local Chicago lesbo filmmaker (who, BTW, happened to be my neighbor a > few years earlier--she lived in the coach-house behind my apartment, while she was in the > process of editing that picture. She'd showed the unedited rushes to my then roommate & > me over at her apartment once, while her angry, bitchy girlfriend slammed things around > and made an embarrassing scene around the house). > Anyway this one girl across the room, sitting on the floor kept looking and smiling at > me. The one guy who was there also looked at me, started grinning like a lunatic, then > gave me the 'thumbs-up' sign. I busted out laughing! My girlfriend was getting a backrub > from another old friend of hers, so I just joined in too, massaging my girlfriend, and > then starting on her friend. We 3 just traded off massages and before I knew it, about 7 > of us, including the girl from across the room, were all semi-naked on the bed. It was > all good fun, as long as I just kept my eyes off the other guy--because the very sight of > his naked ass made me go a big rubbery one! > > The entire thing ended up being a totally isolated incident. About 3 weeks afterward, my > girlfriend moved away to San Francisco (she'd been planning it since long before we met), > and apart from a single visit I made to her (and her new boyfriend) about a year later, I > haven't seen her again. We sometimes email each other, but not very often anymore. Later > on, several times when I was driving the taxi, I ran into some of the women I 'met' that > night. It was usually pretty awkward, but we kinda broke the ice by joking around like > old friends. One of the girls, I have seen many times since--and she mentions it almost > every time we meet (ugh!). Once I picked up a large group of her friends and her in my > taxi from a local nightclub called Crobar. She got in and said, really loudly, (speaking > to me, but obviously for the sole benefit of all her friends) "Hey! -----! I know you! I > fucked you once! We had that big orgy! Remember? How have you been? You still fucking > five, six girls at once?" It was so embarrassing. There were some very attractive women > in the car with her, who I wouldn't mind getting to know, since at the time I had been > 'unoccupied.' > > This has to be about the wildest sexual thing I have ever taken part in, involving > several people at the same time who I didn't even know at all. At least I wore condoms > for the entire occasion! I have not even told my current girlfriend about this event, > because I know she'd freak out. There was another bisexual girlfriend I'd had prior to > this occurrence, and we had had a few threesomes, but it ended up tearing our > relationship apart. We had differing expectations and needs in the relationship, and I > knew she was cheating on me behind my back, so I did the same. I guess neither of us were > ready to be monogamous at the time. > > For several years now I have been what they call a 'serial monogamist,' going from > monogamous relationship to monogamous relationship, with periods of 'playing the field' > and occasional one-nighters in between. > > So that's me. I have been 100% honest here, and as you can see I am not gay. I have been > a bit sleazy at times, I admit, but I am not a queer. I like the way women are shaped, > and the way they behave too much. Men are sexually disgusting to me. They're fine for > friends or drinking buddies, whatever, but for sex? Uuunggh! Yuck. > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > What are you, some kind of mormon or something? > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more > > > heterosexual than you, > > > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's > > > gay? I think > > > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > > > Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden > > > rage from > > > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > > > extreme example > > > of this. > > > > > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > > friends who happen > > > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > > > disgusted by > > > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > > > fags in general, > > > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to > > > Kenny G. > > > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > > > dickhead. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back into > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a while. > > > > >I > > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies > > > > >zine. > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > > > >posted > > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > > > wrote > > > > > > back in the > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > > > >everything > > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, surreptitiously > > > > >reading > > > > > > my email while > > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class project... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA back-issues > > > > >into > > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > > > Dino > > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > > > hook > > > > >is, > > > > > > while reading > > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > > > >bumbling > > > > > > translator > > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > > snorting > > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of this > > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" which > > > has > > > > >been > > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to strike > > > with > > > > >the > > > > > > foot your > > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > > > seconds. > > > > >I > > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I shamefully > > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was not > > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment I'd > > > seen > > > > >on > > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it was > > > > >the > > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and I > > > was > > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a second, > > > then > > > > > > continued her > > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly penned > > > > > > something in her > > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > > >apologized > > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky old > > > me > > > > >has > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super fun > > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > === message truncated === > > > ===== > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 10:14:15 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021005091415.36242.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Don't like it? Don't read it. You can easily filter me out. Read that big email that was sent to you when you subscribed to this list. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > Who wants to join the committe to make Colonel Panic shut the fuck up. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 10:16:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021005091636.80144.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> I just thought you'd all love to hear what a great womanizing bastard I am. --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > It makes one wonder when someone writes a whole 10 minutes worth of > reading material only about how he is "not" gay. In fact, and not to be > insulting here, but in all the truth, that spells out "denial." Or it > could be your words running away from you also. ::shrug:: I'm not saying > you are gay. I am just saying that for some reason you WANT everyone to > know that you are NOT as though it is a big deal, even on this discussion > list. > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend now. I have > had > > more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole lot. In the > times > > when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, personal, sexually > > active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the field,' so > to > > speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. > > > > Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at this point > and > > just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my > confessions: > > > > I am not a stranger to the 'singles bar' scene (albeit an inner-city, hardcore > > punk-rock-type version of the singles bar--such establishments here in Chicago have > been > > known by names like, 'Smart Bar,''Club Dreamerz,''The Hound's > Tooth,''EXIT,''Neo,''Lounge > > Ax,''The G-Spot' and 'Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center,' wherein one is free to 'git wit > tha > > honeyz,' and pick up girls/boys as often as one chooses. Of course, I proceeded to > 'sow > > my wild oats,' as I 'dipped my spoon in the honey pot,' times too numerous to > mention. > > > > I was lucky enough to have even had a couple girlfriends who were bisexual and > > adventuresome, thus enabling me to participate in a few so-called 'threesomes' and at > > least one 'orgy.' Those situations may have involved multiple females, but I was, on > all > > but one occasion, the only male present--and even in that one single situation, my > (male) > > friend and I did not engage in any faggotry; we were interested only in pleasing the > > ladies. This situation occurred, strangely enough, on the evening of the Chicago Gay > > Pride Parade! I was hanging out with my bisexual girlfriend, who was there to meet up > > with some of her friends from high school. After the parade, we ended up at this > party at > > a lesbian couples' apartment, where all the partiers, save for me and one other > > (straight) guy I had met about an hour earlier (who also happened to be there with a > > bisexual girlfriend) were either bisexual, or full-on lesbians. > > > > I remember we were in the living room, reclining on this huge oval-shaped bed with > tens > > of various-sized pillows, which also served as their sofa(!). There was a joint going > > around, and we were all stoned and watching a movie on the TV, a film called 'Go > Fish' > > which was made by a local Chicago lesbo filmmaker (who, BTW, happened to be my > neighbor a > > few years earlier--she lived in the coach-house behind my apartment, while she was in > the > > process of editing that picture. She'd showed the unedited rushes to my then roommate > & > > me over at her apartment once, while her angry, bitchy girlfriend slammed things > around > > and made an embarrassing scene around the house). > > Anyway this one girl across the room, sitting on the floor kept looking and smiling > at > > me. The one guy who was there also looked at me, started grinning like a lunatic, > then > > gave me the 'thumbs-up' sign. I busted out laughing! My girlfriend was getting a > backrub > > from another old friend of hers, so I just joined in too, massaging my girlfriend, > and > > then starting on her friend. We 3 just traded off massages and before I knew it, > about 7 > > of us, including the girl from across the room, were all semi-naked on the bed. It > was > > all good fun, as long as I just kept my eyes off the other guy--because the very > sight of > > his naked ass made me go a big rubbery one! > > > > The entire thing ended up being a totally isolated incident. About 3 weeks afterward, > my > > girlfriend moved away to San Francisco (she'd been planning it since long before we > met), > > and apart from a single visit I made to her (and her new boyfriend) about a year > later, I > > haven't seen her again. We sometimes email each other, but not very often anymore. > Later > > on, several times when I was driving the taxi, I ran into some of the women I 'met' > that > > night. It was usually pretty awkward, but we kinda broke the ice by joking around > like > > old friends. One of the girls, I have seen many times since--and she mentions it > almost > > every time we meet (ugh!). Once I picked up a large group of her friends and her in > my > > taxi from a local nightclub called Crobar. She got in and said, really loudly, > (speaking > > to me, but obviously for the sole benefit of all her friends) "Hey! -----! I know > you! I > > fucked you once! We had that big orgy! Remember? How have you been? You still fucking > > five, six girls at once?" It was so embarrassing. There were some very attractive > women > > in the car with her, who I wouldn't mind getting to know, since at the time I had > been > > 'unoccupied.' > > > > This has to be about the wildest sexual thing I have ever taken part in, involving > > several people at the same time who I didn't even know at all. At least I wore > condoms > > for the entire occasion! I have not even told my current girlfriend about this event, > > because I know she'd freak out. There was another bisexual girlfriend I'd had prior > to > > this occurrence, and we had had a few threesomes, but it ended up tearing our > > relationship apart. We had differing expectations and needs in the relationship, and > I > > knew she was cheating on me behind my back, so I did the same. I guess neither of us > were > > ready to be monogamous at the time. > > > > For several years now I have been what they call a 'serial monogamist,' going from > > monogamous relationship to monogamous relationship, with periods of 'playing the > field' > > and occasional one-nighters in between. > > > > So that's me. I have been 100% honest here, and as you can see I am not gay. I have > been > > a bit sleazy at times, I admit, but I am not a queer. I like the way women are > shaped, > > and the way they behave too much. Men are sexually disgusting to me. They're fine for > > friends or drinking buddies, whatever, but for sex? Uuunggh! Yuck. > > > > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > What are you, some kind of mormon or something? > > > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am far more > > > > heterosexual than you, > > > > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because he's > > > > gay? I think > > > > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > > > > > Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a guilt-ridden > > > > rage from > > > > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > > > > extreme example > > > > of this. > > > > > > > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > > > friends who happen > > > > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am frankly > > > > disgusted by > > > > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity towards > > > > fags in general, > > > > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or listen to > > > > Kenny G. > > > > > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing that > > > > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to say, > > > > > dickhead. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 10:17:57 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic In-Reply-To: <200210050725.g957P7631960@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: <20021005091757.14744.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Damn, this entire list seems to revolve around me! I feel so *special*! --- pyro sawp wrote: > Ill join once someone else starts posting. > > > > >Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic > > From: "Mr Peanut" > > Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:33:56 -0400 > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Who wants to join the committe to make Colonel Panic shut the fuck up. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 10:22:14 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Fwd: Receive Phone Calls and Faxes While You're Online Message-ID: <20021005092214.5147.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Check this out. It seems pointless for receiving calls while online, there are better ways to do that, but I'm sure there are many other applications it could fit! Like, perhaps using it in conjunction with a beige box... --- Emerson Switchboard wrote: > From Emerson Switchboard Fri Oct 4 21:52:47 2002 > Subject: Receive Phone Calls and Faxes While You're Online > From: Emerson Switchboard > To: TeknoPuck@Yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:52:47 -0400 >
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===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 10:23:40 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] the PLA-UPL list Message-ID: <20021005092340.30211.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> How many subscribers are there on this list, anyway? ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 14:43:38 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:43:38 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] the PLA-UPL list Message-ID: <3f.12c6a354.2ad0468a@aol.com> --part1_3f.12c6a354.2ad0468a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/02 6:00:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > > How many subscribers are there on this list, anyway? > probably about 15 active at most. --part1_3f.12c6a354.2ad0468a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/02 6:00:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes:



How many subscribers are there on this list, anyway?


probably about 15 active at most. --part1_3f.12c6a354.2ad0468a_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 15:12:42 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:12:42 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: Do you use big words to sound cool? > >Dude, I think you are taking that last post of mine waaaay too seriously. > >I was being facetious about most of it. > >The reason I defined 'discussion list' in my own excessively garrulous >style is because >'Penis Saw' (or whatever his nick is supposed to mean) inferred that I >don't know what >one is. He also, in his infinite wisdom, warned me that I was butting in on >a post >directed to someone else, and I intended to subtly imply that when one >posts to a list >like this, a DISCUSSION LIST, the post goes to EVERYBODY, so anyone can >reply to it. >Furthermore, Mr. 'Python Suppository' seems to be under the impression that >'discussion >list' means "DIS CUSSIN' LIST" --and that he's supposed to vulgarly insult >and swear at >everything everybody posts. There's a reason they call it 'flaming' --the >person posting >with that type of attitude sounds like a bitchy fag or a sour old woman. > >The persona I have adopted is just fun to write in. I can answer just about >any post, and >be rude if I like, fuck with people, or not. And I like to share ideas, >highbrow, and >lowbrow ones alike, so I feel it sorta fits to act like the classic >obnoxious, >know-it-all ass, since so many others around here lately behave like other >varieties of >ass--mostly like obnoxious adolescents (yes, you're right, when I say >'lately' I mean >about a year or so now, pretty much since YahooGroups nixed the list and >the last of the >old list members disappeared--save for a precious few--like RTF, Linear, >Nevarmore, et >al. -- I have been posting on the PLA list since like 1998-99.) Ask RBCP. >The list used >to be different. People would actually TALK about things. Discuss ideas. >Cooperate on >projects together. It was actually fun! If somebody posted with a problem, >they'd get a >variety of answers and questions in the spirit of helping. Not like now, >where you get a >few people reiterating the same old post and calling them an idiot for >asking for help. >Of course back then there were a few lame, bad-tempered idiots, but nobody >paid attention >to them. > >Even though the attitude I often cop around here (the self-righteous >know-it-all who >corrects everybody and always complains about stupidity) is admittedly a >contrived, >self-conscious persona, I DO honestly regret that when I try to share ideas >and other >stuff with the list, the most vocal people are a bunch of >lowest-common-denominators who >nitpick with a ridiculous overabundance of vitriol over the tiniest >details. I guess they >must feel that approach will make them appear wickedly witty and >dangerously intelligent. >In reality, they just look like a bunch of dumb kids who are acting mean to >cover up how >unimaginative and stupid they really are. It is the most common trick on >the elementary >school playground. Who knows--if they were ever to voice an idea, somebody >might think it >is stupid, and they will reveal to the world their lack of 'ph33rsum hax0r >skills!' > >When in reality, that shit doesn't matter at all. Bulllshit lousy attitudes >are trite and >boring, overdone and limited. And I don't find them fun anymore. So I will >ignore. > > > >--- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based >discussion forum > > > whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically >forwarded to > > everyone > > > else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post >whatever and > > whenever > > > one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received >by EVERYONE > > (unless > > > the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are >posting to and > > reading > > > messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from >'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' > > is > > > called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this >sort, which runs > > on > > > *nix/Linux servers. > > > > > > In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and >anyone can reply > > to > > > any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. > > > > Your expository style frightens me greatly. It reminds me of a graphics > > design book I once had to read where I decided to just pick up a pen and > > cross out all the unnecessary sentences. After 2/3rds of a couple pages > > was gone, I still felt like my mind was learning about as much as it >would > > be at an assembly line. > > > > In particular, I'm addressing your digression. Your overall intent in >this > > post seems to have been to (and I paused thinking here for a minute) > > perhaps say that we are allowed freedom of speech on the list, and you > > have no interest to engage in insignificant battles of insignificance >with > > such insignificant little figures as pirate soap and probably mrpeanut. > > Now, considering this what you were trying to convey, for what purpose >did > > you tell us that "majordomo" is a popular e-mail forum program? Why > > exactly did you technically define a discussion list in a whole >paragraph? > > Your last sentence could have done the job by itself, it is the only >part > > of text that I see above that actually pertained to what I believe you > > were trying to say. Unless, of course, your intent was to educate us on > > the technical attributes of a list. > > > > > Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and >condescending > > persona, > > > that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to >adopt, as long > > as > > > > That is very wonderful. Could you please explain the reasons of why you > > elected this persona in particular? It could never have been to counter > > the persona you described in your college class earlier, where you go to > > the length of "silently" apologizing to a teacher, and pretending that >you > > were paying attention to the poor female's heart-filled speech about > > whatever. Regarding that incident, generally when a person is speaking >and > > someone during that speech is reminded of a TV show and laughs about it, > > it would really make the speaker feel wonderful about how much attention > > he or she is soaking up from his or her listeners. (Although if the >speech > > was boring I would feel no need to pretend that it wasn't.) > > > > > there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and >others around > > here > > > prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no >better and no worse > > > than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come >to inhabit > > this > > > > The people I believe you are referring to I have actually seen on the >list > > for at least a year. Are you using an average-life-spanning human's > > timescale, or the earth's timescale to make this judgement? > > > > > list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. >When somebody > > comes > > > around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an >intelligent adult, then > > I > > > will respond in kind. But until then... > > > > If I didn't know any better, it would sound to me like you are proposing > > that we rid ourselves of humor and establish a more corporate "it's all > > business" approach. Perhaps you should go to a theatre. > > > > > I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and >your > > sycophantic > > > stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling >over every > > minute > > > detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my >intellectual > > superiority > > > and just keep your bullshit to yourself. > > > > That was nice. A big wall of "intelligent adult" words, finally coming >to > > a shatter and from it emerging a frustrated prophanity. These sycopantic > > stooges must really be getting on your nerves of steel today. You just > > can't take it anymore, so intensely overwhelming is their unsettling and > > boisterous approach to you on the list. > > > > > I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty >bullshit or > > > > Why not "In conclusion, ..." or perhaps "To summarize the above > > statements, ..." Or better yet! "If you vote for me, ..." > > > > > flaming, old-crone niggling that anybody shall henceforth cast in my >direction. > > > Legitimate, intelligent discussion and debate I will of course answer, >but any of > > this > > > childish petty squabbling I will completely ignore. > > > > You are beginning to sound like a nervous wreck, who would want to >engage > > in a legitimate, intelligent discussion after that? It sounds like your > > words have gone astray from the course of your mind's intention to >convey > > ideas. Perhaps you are using too many of them. > > > > > NOW on to more important matters... > > > > Ah yes! The following posts that I shall receive from you shall be >filled > > with astonishingly legitimate and intelligent important matters. I >should > > just go and filter all those old-crone nigglers so I can live in my own > > little world. (What do old crones have to do with this?) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 15:15:10 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:15:10 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] curious... Message-ID: Yeah well I hate those damn squirrels > >--- Mr Peanut wrote: > > I fucking hate chicks, little chripping blond pieces > > of shit. They do > > nothing but annoy me and "look cute". That goes for > > women as well. > >I hate faggot assholes who think they are cool or >something! > >Colleen > >===== >"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams." > >~`~`~Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory~`~`~ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 15:15:45 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:15:45 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Colonel Panic Message-ID: Dont tell me what to do you little cock slut > >Don't like it? Don't read it. You can easily filter me out. Read that big >email that was >sent to you when you subscribed to this list. > >--- Mr Peanut wrote: > > Who wants to join the committe to make Colonel Panic shut the fuck up. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 17:09:45 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:09:45 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions References: <20021004193417.95693.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008501c26c89$9f804c20$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Colonel Panic" > > I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend now. I have had > more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole lot. In the times > when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, personal, sexually > active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the field,' so to > speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. > > Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at this point and > just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my confessions: Er.. this one time, when I was like nine, I stole gum from the store because I didn't have any quarters. Then I accidentally dropped it in the sofa while I was hiding it from my dad, and his dog ate it. That taught me a lesson but good. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 19:27:47 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions In-Reply-To: <008501c26c89$9f804c20$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021005182747.58735.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn't pay, now does it? BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gum? Or that his son was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him... That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfriend > now. I have had > > more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the whole > lot. In the times > > when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, > personal, sexually > > active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play the > field,' so to > > speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. > > > > Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading at > this point and > > just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begin my > confessions: > > > Er.. this one time, when I was like nine, I stole gum from the store because > I didn't have any quarters. Then I accidentally dropped it in the sofa > while I was hiding it from my dad, and his dog ate it. That taught me a > lesson but good. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 19:29:52 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] the PLA-UPL list In-Reply-To: <3f.12c6a354.2ad0468a@aol.com> Message-ID: <20021005182952.91048.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Where did you find that out? The 'subscribers' feature, which returns the number of members on the given list, was turned off last time I tried, like 2 days ago. --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/02 6:00:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > How many subscribers are there on this list, anyway? > > > > probably about 15 active at most. > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 19:53:53 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:53:53 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions Message-ID: <50.12c99fc8.2ad08f41@aol.com> --part1_50.12c99fc8.2ad08f41_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/02 2:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn't pay, > now does it? > > BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gum? Or > that his son > was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him... > That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong. omfg. --part1_50.12c99fc8.2ad08f41_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/02 2:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes:


See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn't pay, now does it?

BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gum? Or that his son
was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him...
That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong.


omfg. --part1_50.12c99fc8.2ad08f41_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 19:54:16 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:54:16 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] the PLA-UPL list Message-ID: --part1_cf.1e2c0db2.2ad08f58_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/02 2:30:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > Where did you find that out? I was estimating. --part1_cf.1e2c0db2.2ad08f58_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/02 2:30:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes:


Where did you find that out?


I was estimating. --part1_cf.1e2c0db2.2ad08f58_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 20:25:25 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021005192525.96995.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Huh? What big words did I use in my last post? Are you referring to the word, "facetious?" Or perhaps "garrulous"? Wow. I never considered those to be such big words, nor are they particularly uncommon or esoteric-- Maybe you were referring to my lexicon in general? I guess it must come from reading a lot. I read every day--from the news to non-fiction computer technical manuals or media studies books. I always have at least 2 or 3 books going at any one time--and that's the reading I do outside what I'm assigned weekly for school classes. As a break from all that dry stuff, I'll often (usually during the spring, summer or Christmas breaks) pick up an occasional novel, humor collection or short story anthology. And that's not even to mention all the comics and graphic novels! I guess I'm a bookworm as well as a computer geek. So naturally, I was unaware that using big words is supposed to be 'cool.' Back when I was in grammar school (the last time I seriously concerned myself with appearing "cool") people who used big words and had an extensive vocabulary were regarded as decidedly "un-cool." My cynical sense of humor and contempt for the teachers and school hierarchy was the only thing that kept me from getting picked on and beat up back in those days. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > Do you use big words to sound cool? > > > >Dude, I think you are taking that last post of mine waaaay too seriously. > > > >I was being facetious about most of it. > > > >The reason I defined 'discussion list' in my own excessively garrulous > >style is because > >'Penis Saw' (or whatever his nick is supposed to mean) inferred that I > >don't know what > >one is. He also, in his infinite wisdom, warned me that I was butting in on > >a post > >directed to someone else, and I intended to subtly imply that when one > >posts to a list > >like this, a DISCUSSION LIST, the post goes to EVERYBODY, so anyone can > >reply to it. > >Furthermore, Mr. 'Python Suppository' seems to be under the impression that > >'discussion > >list' means "DIS CUSSIN' LIST" --and that he's supposed to vulgarly insult > >and swear at > >everything everybody posts. There's a reason they call it 'flaming' --the > >person posting > >with that type of attitude sounds like a bitchy fag or a sour old woman. > > > >The persona I have adopted is just fun to write in. I can answer just about > >any post, and > >be rude if I like, fuck with people, or not. And I like to share ideas, > >highbrow, and > >lowbrow ones alike, so I feel it sorta fits to act like the classic > >obnoxious, > >know-it-all ass, since so many others around here lately behave like other > >varieties of > >ass--mostly like obnoxious adolescents (yes, you're right, when I say > >'lately' I mean > >about a year or so now, pretty much since YahooGroups nixed the list and > >the last of the > >old list members disappeared--save for a precious few--like RTF, Linear, > >Nevarmore, et > >al. -- I have been posting on the PLA list since like 1998-99.) Ask RBCP. > >The list used > >to be different. People would actually TALK about things. Discuss ideas. > >Cooperate on > >projects together. It was actually fun! If somebody posted with a problem, > >they'd get a > >variety of answers and questions in the spirit of helping. Not like now, > >where you get a > >few people reiterating the same old post and calling them an idiot for > >asking for help. > >Of course back then there were a few lame, bad-tempered idiots, but nobody > >paid attention > >to them. > > > >Even though the attitude I often cop around here (the self-righteous > >know-it-all who > >corrects everybody and always complains about stupidity) is admittedly a > >contrived, > >self-conscious persona, I DO honestly regret that when I try to share ideas > >and other > >stuff with the list, the most vocal people are a bunch of > >lowest-common-denominators who > >nitpick with a ridiculous overabundance of vitriol over the tiniest > >details. I guess they > >must feel that approach will make them appear wickedly witty and > >dangerously intelligent. > >In reality, they just look like a bunch of dumb kids who are acting mean to > >cover up how > >unimaginative and stupid they really are. It is the most common trick on > >the elementary > >school playground. Who knows--if they were ever to voice an idea, somebody > >might think it > >is stupid, and they will reveal to the world their lack of 'ph33rsum hax0r > >skills!' > > > >When in reality, that shit doesn't matter at all. Bulllshit lousy attitudes > >are trite and > >boring, overdone and limited. And I don't find them fun anymore. So I will > >ignore. > > > > > > > >--- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-based > >discussion forum > > > > whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatically > >forwarded to > > > everyone > > > > else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post > >whatever and > > > whenever > > > > one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be received > >by EVERYONE > > > (unless > > > > the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are > >posting to and > > > reading > > > > messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from > >'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' > > > is > > > > called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this > >sort, which runs > > > on > > > > *nix/Linux servers. > > > > > > > > In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, and > >anyone can reply > > > to > > > > any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. > > > > > > Your expository style frightens me greatly. It reminds me of a graphics > > > design book I once had to read where I decided to just pick up a pen and > > > cross out all the unnecessary sentences. After 2/3rds of a couple pages > > > was gone, I still felt like my mind was learning about as much as it > >would > > > be at an assembly line. > > > > > > In particular, I'm addressing your digression. Your overall intent in > >this > > > post seems to have been to (and I paused thinking here for a minute) > > > perhaps say that we are allowed freedom of speech on the list, and you > > > have no interest to engage in insignificant battles of insignificance > >with > > > such insignificant little figures as pirate soap and probably mrpeanut. > > > Now, considering this what you were trying to convey, for what purpose > >did > > > you tell us that "majordomo" is a popular e-mail forum program? Why > > > exactly did you technically define a discussion list in a whole > >paragraph? > > > Your last sentence could have done the job by itself, it is the only > >part > > > of text that I see above that actually pertained to what I believe you > > > were trying to say. Unless, of course, your intent was to educate us on > > > the technical attributes of a list. > > > > > > > Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and > >condescending > > > persona, > > > > that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected to > >adopt, as long > > > as > > > > > > That is very wonderful. Could you please explain the reasons of why you > > > elected this persona in particular? It could never have been to counter > > > the persona you described in your college class earlier, where you go to > > > the length of "silently" apologizing to a teacher, and pretending that > >you > > > were paying attention to the poor female's heart-filled speech about > > > whatever. Regarding that incident, generally when a person is speaking > >and > > > someone during that speech is reminded of a TV show and laughs about it, > > > it would really make the speaker feel wonderful about how much attention > > > he or she is soaking up from his or her listeners. (Although if the > >speech > > > was boring I would feel no need to pretend that it wasn't.) > > > > > > > there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, and > >others around > > > here > > > > prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no > >better and no worse > > > > than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have come > >to inhabit > > > this > > > > > > The people I believe you are referring to I have actually seen on the > >list > > > for at least a year. Are you using an average-life-spanning human's > > > timescale, or the earth's timescale to make this judgement? > > > > > > > list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so desire. > >When somebody > > > comes > > > > around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an > >intelligent adult, then > > > I > > > > will respond in kind. But until then... > > > > > > If I didn't know any better, it would sound to me like you are proposing > > > that we rid ourselves of humor and establish a more corporate "it's all > > > business" approach. Perhaps you should go to a theatre. > > > > > > > I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your (and > >your > > > sycophantic > > > > stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and niggling > >over every > > > minute > > > > detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my > >intellectual > > > superiority > > > > and just keep your bullshit to yourself. > > > > > > That was nice. A big wall of "intelligent adult" words, finally coming > >to > > > a shatter and from it emerging a frustrated prophanity. These sycopantic > > > stooges must really be getting on your nerves of steel today. You just > > > can't take it anymore, so intensely overwhelming is their unsettling and > > > boisterous approach to you on the list. > > > > > > > I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any petty > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 5 20:45:40 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions In-Reply-To: <50.12c99fc8.2ad08f41@aol.com> Message-ID: <20021005194540.99050.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> It's a JOKE!!! Come on! Somebody PLEASE understand my sarcasm! --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/02 2:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > > > > See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn't pay, > > now does it? > > > > BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gum? Or > > that his son > > was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him... > > That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong. > > omfg. > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 6 03:22:58 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 22:22:58 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions References: <20021005182747.58735.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601c26cdf$4a2a7b00$ee92bd18@gio> He was the one who had to clean up after that dog, so he must have found out about the gum shortly afterward. Oh yeah, and the dog died around ten years later. And, now that I think about it, my dad hasn't shown any interest in speaking to me for the past five years or so. Coincidence? From: "Colonel Panic" > See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn't pay, now does it? > > BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gum? Or that his son > was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him... > That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong. > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Er.. this one time, when I was like nine, I stole gum from the store because > > I didn't have any quarters. Then I accidentally dropped it in the sofa > > while I was hiding it from my dad, and his dog ate it. That taught me a > > lesson but good. > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 6 03:29:00 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 22:29:00 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions References: <20021005194540.99050.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005b01c26ce0$cd000580$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Colonel Panic" > It's a JOKE!!! Come on! Somebody PLEASE understand my sarcasm! > > --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/5/02 2:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn't pay, > > > now does it? > > > > > > BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gum? Or > > > that his son > > > was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him... > > > That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong. > > > > omfg. Don't worry guys, anything I read referring to my dad is automatically classified as a joke. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 6 04:46:44 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:46:44 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Help wanted Message-ID: <000901c26cea$fd7a6840$ee92bd18@gio> I need someone with a publicdata.com account to run one name through for me. If you can help, please email me off-list. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 6 05:53:07 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 00:53:07 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: wow, I actually talked to the king dork. Give it a rest, and while you're at it stop sucking so much dick you're bound to catch a std. >Huh? What big words did I use in my last post? > >Are you referring to the word, "facetious?" Or perhaps "garrulous"? Wow. I >never >considered those to be such big words, nor are they particularly uncommon >or esoteric-- > >Maybe you were referring to my lexicon in general? I guess it must come >from reading a >lot. I read every day--from the news to non-fiction computer technical >manuals or media >studies books. I always have at least 2 or 3 books going at any one >time--and that's the >reading I do outside what I'm assigned weekly for school classes. As a >break from all >that dry stuff, I'll often (usually during the spring, summer or Christmas >breaks) pick >up an occasional novel, humor collection or short story anthology. And >that's not even to >mention all the comics and graphic novels! I guess I'm a bookworm as well >as a computer >geek. > >So naturally, I was unaware that using big words is supposed to be 'cool.' >Back when I >was in grammar school (the last time I seriously concerned myself with >appearing "cool") >people who used big words and had an extensive vocabulary were regarded as >decidedly >"un-cool." My cynical sense of humor and contempt for the teachers and >school hierarchy >was the only thing that kept me from getting picked on and beat up back in >those days. > >--- Mr Peanut wrote: > > Do you use big words to sound cool? > > > > > >Dude, I think you are taking that last post of mine waaaay too >seriously. > > > > > >I was being facetious about most of it. > > > > > >The reason I defined 'discussion list' in my own excessively garrulous > > >style is because > > >'Penis Saw' (or whatever his nick is supposed to mean) inferred that I > > >don't know what > > >one is. He also, in his infinite wisdom, warned me that I was butting >in on > > >a post > > >directed to someone else, and I intended to subtly imply that when one > > >posts to a list > > >like this, a DISCUSSION LIST, the post goes to EVERYBODY, so anyone can > > >reply to it. > > >Furthermore, Mr. 'Python Suppository' seems to be under the impression >that > > >'discussion > > >list' means "DIS CUSSIN' LIST" --and that he's supposed to vulgarly >insult > > >and swear at > > >everything everybody posts. There's a reason they call it 'flaming' >--the > > >person posting > > >with that type of attitude sounds like a bitchy fag or a sour old >woman. > > > > > >The persona I have adopted is just fun to write in. I can answer just >about > > >any post, and > > >be rude if I like, fuck with people, or not. And I like to share ideas, > > >highbrow, and > > >lowbrow ones alike, so I feel it sorta fits to act like the classic > > >obnoxious, > > >know-it-all ass, since so many others around here lately behave like >other > > >varieties of > > >ass--mostly like obnoxious adolescents (yes, you're right, when I say > > >'lately' I mean > > >about a year or so now, pretty much since YahooGroups nixed the list >and > > >the last of the > > >old list members disappeared--save for a precious few--like RTF, >Linear, > > >Nevarmore, et > > >al. -- I have been posting on the PLA list since like 1998-99.) Ask >RBCP. > > >The list used > > >to be different. People would actually TALK about things. Discuss >ideas. > > >Cooperate on > > >projects together. It was actually fun! If somebody posted with a >problem, > > >they'd get a > > >variety of answers and questions in the spirit of helping. Not like >now, > > >where you get a > > >few people reiterating the same old post and calling them an idiot for > > >asking for help. > > >Of course back then there were a few lame, bad-tempered idiots, but >nobody > > >paid attention > > >to them. > > > > > >Even though the attitude I often cop around here (the self-righteous > > >know-it-all who > > >corrects everybody and always complains about stupidity) is admittedly >a > > >contrived, > > >self-conscious persona, I DO honestly regret that when I try to share >ideas > > >and other > > >stuff with the list, the most vocal people are a bunch of > > >lowest-common-denominators who > > >nitpick with a ridiculous overabundance of vitriol over the tiniest > > >details. I guess they > > >must feel that approach will make them appear wickedly witty and > > >dangerously intelligent. > > >In reality, they just look like a bunch of dumb kids who are acting >mean to > > >cover up how > > >unimaginative and stupid they really are. It is the most common trick >on > > >the elementary > > >school playground. Who knows--if they were ever to voice an idea, >somebody > > >might think it > > >is stupid, and they will reveal to the world their lack of 'ph33rsum >hax0r > > >skills!' > > > > > >When in reality, that shit doesn't matter at all. Bulllshit lousy >attitudes > > >are trite and > > >boring, overdone and limited. And I don't find them fun anymore. So I >will > > >ignore. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an >email-based > > >discussion forum > > > > > whereby a message sent to the list's email address is >automatically > > >forwarded to > > > > everyone > > > > > else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post > > >whatever and > > > > whenever > > > > > one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be >received > > >by EVERYONE > > > > (unless > > > > > the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are > > >posting to and > > > > reading > > > > > messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from > > >'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' > > > > is > > > > > called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of this > > >sort, which runs > > > > on > > > > > *nix/Linux servers. > > > > > > > > > > In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, >and > > >anyone can reply > > > > to > > > > > any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. > > > > > > > > Your expository style frightens me greatly. It reminds me of a >graphics > > > > design book I once had to read where I decided to just pick up a pen >and > > > > cross out all the unnecessary sentences. After 2/3rds of a couple >pages > > > > was gone, I still felt like my mind was learning about as much as it > > >would > > > > be at an assembly line. > > > > > > > > In particular, I'm addressing your digression. Your overall intent >in > > >this > > > > post seems to have been to (and I paused thinking here for a minute) > > > > perhaps say that we are allowed freedom of speech on the list, and >you > > > > have no interest to engage in insignificant battles of >insignificance > > >with > > > > such insignificant little figures as pirate soap and probably >mrpeanut. > > > > Now, considering this what you were trying to convey, for what >purpose > > >did > > > > you tell us that "majordomo" is a popular e-mail forum program? Why > > > > exactly did you technically define a discussion list in a whole > > >paragraph? > > > > Your last sentence could have done the job by itself, it is the only > > >part > > > > of text that I see above that actually pertained to what I believe >you > > > > were trying to say. Unless, of course, your intent was to educate us >on > > > > the technical attributes of a list. > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and > > >condescending > > > > persona, > > > > > that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected >to > > >adopt, as long > > > > as > > > > > > > > That is very wonderful. Could you please explain the reasons of why >you > > > > elected this persona in particular? It could never have been to >counter > > > > the persona you described in your college class earlier, where you >go to > > > > the length of "silently" apologizing to a teacher, and pretending >that > > >you > > > > were paying attention to the poor female's heart-filled speech about > > > > whatever. Regarding that incident, generally when a person is >speaking > > >and > > > > someone during that speech is reminded of a TV show and laughs about >it, > > > > it would really make the speaker feel wonderful about how much >attention > > > > he or she is soaking up from his or her listeners. (Although if the > > >speech > > > > was boring I would feel no need to pretend that it wasn't.) > > > > > > > > > there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, >and > > >others around > > > > here > > > > > prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no > > >better and no worse > > > > > than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have >come > > >to inhabit > > > > this > > > > > > > > The people I believe you are referring to I have actually seen on >the > > >list > > > > for at least a year. Are you using an average-life-spanning human's > > > > timescale, or the earth's timescale to make this judgement? > > > > > > > > > list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so >desire. > > >When somebody > > > > comes > > > > > around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an > > >intelligent adult, then > > > > I > > > > > will respond in kind. But until then... > > > > > > > > If I didn't know any better, it would sound to me like you are >proposing > > > > that we rid ourselves of humor and establish a more corporate "it's >all > > > > business" approach. Perhaps you should go to a theatre. > > > > > > > > > I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your >(and > > >your > > > > sycophantic > > > > > stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and >niggling > > >over every > > > > minute > > > > > detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my > > >intellectual > > > > superiority > > > > > and just keep your bullshit to yourself. > > > > > > > > That was nice. A big wall of "intelligent adult" words, finally >coming > > >to > > > > a shatter and from it emerging a frustrated prophanity. These >sycopantic > > > > stooges must really be getting on your nerves of steel today. You >just > > > > can't take it anymore, so intensely overwhelming is their unsettling >and > > > > boisterous approach to you on the list. > > > > > > > > > I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any >petty > > >=== message truncated === > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 01:13:53 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:13:53 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: I think less of you each email you send. >You're welcome. >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect no less >were I ever >wrong about anything. > >--- arcmna wrote: > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur > > that he shut the > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people >for > > no reason at > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor > > compelling. It > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive >moron. > > Many people > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going >to > > flame, argue > > with, and attack me for saying it. > > > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back >into > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a >while. > > > >I > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking >Bunnies > > > >zine. > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > > >posted > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > > wrote > > > > > back in the > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > > >everything > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, >surreptitiously > > > >reading > > > > > my email while > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class >project... > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA >back-issues > > > >into > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > > Dino > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > > hook > > > >is, > > > > > while reading > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > > >bumbling > > > > > translator > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > snorting > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of >this > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" >which > > has > > > >been > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to >strike > > with > > > >the > > > > > foot your > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > > seconds. > > > >I > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I >shamefully > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was >not > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment >I'd > > seen > > > >on > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it >was > > > >the > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and >I > > was > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a >second, > > then > > > > > continued her > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly >penned > > > > > something in her > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > >apologized > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky >old > > me > > > >has > > > > > gone > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super >fun > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >=== message truncated === > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 01:17:16 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:17:16 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: You have no dick. What the hell was that, I expect better of a postal worker. > > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > >The word was concour, not conour. It doesn't just mean "agree", so you're >wrong on that also. > > > > >To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur >that he shut the > >fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people >for no reason at > >all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor >compelling. > >Do you know either of them? do you know if they know each other or have >spent time talking? No >you don't. So making an assumption that he is being obnoxious to a person >for no reason just >makes you look like an ass who doesn't have any facts but still feels the >need to "butt" in on >a message that wasn't directed towards him. > > >It > >just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. >Many people > >here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going >to flame, argue > >with, and attack me for saying it. > > > >Scream flame all you want, I see you still havn't found out what a >discussion list is. >Everytime someone counters something you say you scream flame or attack, >sounds like something >a "small-minded moron" would do. > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 03:57:31 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021007025731.53647.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Well I never thought you were but shit, right from the beginning. And it appears I was correct in that assessment. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > I think less of you each email you send. > >You're welcome. > >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect no less > >were I ever > >wrong about anything. > > > >--- arcmna wrote: > > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > > > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur > > > that he shut the > > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people > >for > > > no reason at > > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor > > > compelling. It > > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive > >moron. > > > Many people > > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going > >to > > > flame, argue > > > with, and attack me for saying it. > > > > > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back > >into > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a > >while. > > > > >I > > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking > >Bunnies > > > > >zine. > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is that > > > > >posted > > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post RPCP > > > wrote > > > > > > back in the > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly > > > > >everything > > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV > > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, > >surreptitiously > > > > >reading > > > > > > my email while > > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class > >project... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA > >back-issues > > > > >into > > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated one--the > > > Dino > > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. The > > > hook > > > > >is, > > > > > > while reading > > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the dual > > > > >bumbling > > > > > > translator > > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the rough > > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > > snorting > > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of > >this > > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" > >which > > > has > > > > >been > > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to > >strike > > > with > > > > >the > > > > > > foot your > > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for several > > > seconds. > > > > >I > > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I > >shamefully > > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I was > >not > > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious moment > >I'd > > > seen > > > > >on > > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the spot--it > >was > > > > >the > > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, and > >I > > > was > > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a > >second, > > > then > > > > > > continued her > > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly > >penned > > > > > > something in her > > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > > >apologized > > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the name of > > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! Sneaky > >old > > > me > > > > >has > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk space > > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings super > >fun > > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 04:15:29 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 20:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <20021007031529.39032.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Did anybody hear about this? It was in the news quite some time ago, and I just came across a note I'd written to myself like a month ago to investigate it further, via the www. (More insightful commentary follows the news piece, in case you hadn't already guessed...) _________________________________________________________ Bone Fragments Found On Roof Near WTC Site Officials Not Sure If Fragments Are Human Remains POSTED: 8:53 a.m. EDT August 29, 2002 UPDATED: 10:11 a.m. EDT September 1, 2002 NEW YORK -- Human remains that blew out of the World Trade Center towers during the Sept. 11 attack are being found by construction workers repairing damaged buildings around the disaster site. Three bone fragments the size of small twigs were found Wednesday evening by workers on the roof of 130 Liberty St., owned by Deutsche Bank, according to Port Authority Police Lt. John Ryan, who oversaw remains recovery during the nine-month excavation of the site. The heavily damaged 40-story building, covered with black netting and a giant American flag, sits just south of ground zero. The finding came less than two weeks after workers spotted a woman's pelvic bone atop 90 West St., a 25-story building at the southwest edge of the trade center site. Ryan said other fragments in addition to the 6-by-7-inch pelvis have been found there in recent weeks. "When you think about all the tons of debris and the force of the impact, even though everything was thoroughly checked and rechecked, you're going to have situations where remains will be found," Ryan said. After the excavation of the 16-acre site ended in June, firefighters and police officers expanded the recovery effort to several of the nearby buildings, and found bone fragments, teeth and even parts of an airplane luggage rack. City officials had said the more thorough inspections were delayed because the work at the trade center site blocked access to the buildings, and some had to be secured before crews could enter. The Deutsche Bank building was the last to be searched, finishing on June 24 after the city and the owners agreed on access to the structure, which was contaminated with mold. "While they were searched thoroughly, some of the damage may have precluded people getting to every inch of it," Ryan said. "Now that it's being repaired or those damaged areas are being removed, they're finding things." The discoveries this month have not prompted any plans to comb the buildings again, Ryan said, but all construction crews at or near the trade center site have been instructed to watch for possible human remains. "I think everyone realizes that even if you went over the entire site inch by inch again, just due to human error and the makeup of the site, things will be missed -- but hopefully now they'll be discovered at some point," Ryan said. Nearly 20,000 pieces of human remains found in the debris have been logged at the medical examiner's office. Of the 2,800 people killed, the remains of 1,379 have been identified, 648 by DNA alone. About half of the parts recovered did not initially yield enough DNA for standard tests, but a groundbreaking procedure to begin in September is expected to lead to identifications for many of those, officials said Thursday. The city had been working with Orchid GeneScreen in Dallas to adapt a test that examines pieces of DNA shorter than 100 base pairs, which form the signature double helix of human DNA. Billions of chemical base pairs make up DNA, and forensic experts generally work with DNA samples of about 400 base pairs. As DNA degrades over time, it shrinks, decreasing the number of base pairs. The DNA in trade center remains was damaged even further by humidity and exposure to heat, according to Dr. Robert Shaler, chief of forensic biology at the medical examiner's office. The new procedure looks at single nucleotide polymorphisms, or snips, tiny variations in the smallest building blocks of DNA that are common among many people. Each person is estimated to have between three and 10 million snips. Scientists already use the procedure for disease research, but the medical examiner's adaptation is new. _________________________________________________________ Isn't it strange that it took them over a year to discover such large pieces of human remains on the rooftops of buildings in the area? If that pelvis was complete and not just fragmentary, it must have come from a very petite woman--I mean, 6-by-7 inches? It must have been just part of a pelvis. I was just watching a video of the second plane hitting the South tower, and I could plainly see quite a bit of pretty huge-looking, flaming debris fragments flying out the opposite side of the building from where the plane went in, emerging from the fireball and sailing out6 for what looked like many city blocks. I wonder what those were, and if they were all recovered... ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 04:45:46 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:45:46 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: oh im hurt, truly. Quite a zinger! I just hate when annoying "im so fucking smart" assholes dont like me. Look no one cares if you say assessment instead of "I guess my thought was correct". In fact you look like an ass for bother to use the word. I know you'll come back with "I talk like that all the time" "stop flaming me" "I dont have a penis" "My daddy touches my bumb" and the like. > >Well I never thought you were but shit, right from the beginning. And it >appears I was >correct in that assessment. > >--- Mr Peanut wrote: > > I think less of you each email you send. > > >You're welcome. > > >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect no >less > > >were I ever > > >wrong about anything. > > > > > >--- arcmna wrote: > > > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > > > > > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To >'concur > > > > that he shut the > > > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to >people > > >for > > > > no reason at > > > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming >nor > > > > compelling. It > > > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive > > >moron. > > > > Many people > > > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all >going > > >to > > > > flame, argue > > > > with, and attack me for saying it. > > > > > > > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel >Panic > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it >back > > >into > > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for >a > > >while. > > > > > >I > > > > > > > still like it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking > > >Bunnies > > > > > >zine. > > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! Is >that > > > > > >posted > > > > > > > anywhere in the > > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that post >RPCP > > > > wrote > > > > > > > back in the > > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' >(suddenly > > > > > >everything > > > > > > > turns all wavy > > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a >TV > > > > > >sitcom)... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, > > >surreptitiously > > > > > >reading > > > > > > > my email while > > > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class > > >project... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA > > >back-issues > > > > > >into > > > > > > > Spanish using > > > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated >one--the > > > > Dino > > > > > > > Allsman episode, no > > > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably silly. >The > > > > hook > > > > > >is, > > > > > > > while reading > > > > > > > > this text, my mind is charged with the task of decoding the >dual > > > > > >bumbling > > > > > > > translator > > > > > > > > bots' awkward, twisted grammar in an effort to extract the >rough > > > > > > > meaning--which is so > > > > > > > > ridiculous, I am barely able to hold back a hearty, ripping, > > > > snorting > > > > > > > guffaw! Suddenly my > > > > > > > > jostled mind, while careening along the bumps and swerves of > > >this > > > > > > > disjointed composition, > > > > > > > > reaches the (oft-repeated) line, "I'm gonna kick your ass!" > > >which > > > > has > > > > > >been > > > > > > > weirdly > > > > > > > > modified by the direct translation to read, "I am going to > > >strike > > > > with > > > > > >the > > > > > > > foot your > > > > > > > > ass!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I literally burst out snickering, uncontrollably, for >several > > > > seconds. > > > > > >I > > > > > > > felt like a > > > > > > > > total idiot; a complete loser. Regaining my composure, I > > >shamefully > > > > > > > explained to the > > > > > > > > class (especially to the poor girl giving the report) that I >was > > >not > > > > > > > mocking her, but > > > > > > > > that something she had said reminded me of a hilarious >moment > > >I'd > > > > seen > > > > > >on > > > > > > > a TV sitcom the > > > > > > > > night before (what was I supposed to say? I was on the >spot--it > > >was > > > > > >the > > > > > > > only excuse I > > > > > > > > came up with in my extreme embarrasment! Here I was college, >and > > >I > > > > was > > > > > > > acting like a > > > > > > > > disruptive pre-schooler!). She stared at me blankly for a > > >second, > > > > then > > > > > > > continued her > > > > > > > > presentation. The class instructor glared at me, and briskly > > >penned > > > > > > > something in her > > > > > > > > gradebook. She kept a close eye on me from then on. Again, I > > > > > >apologized > > > > > > > silently to the > > > > > > > > instructor, all the while in my fevered mind cursing the >name of > > > > > >RBCP!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > > > > > And you know what? It's all unauthorized and stuff! >Sneaky > > >old > > > > me > > > > > >has > > > > > > > gone > > > > > > > > > and edited together an issue behind everyone's back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss 100 kb of disk >space > > > > > >goodbye! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to check out the accompanying Toneage, it brings >super > > >fun > > > > > > > > > happiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linear is going strike my ass with the foot for this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > >--┼eК₪XمugK > > > > > > > > > > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > > > >http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >=== message truncated === > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 08:03:05 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 00:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021007070305.63639.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Wow. This thread has been, like, totally overrun with our petty bickerings back and forth. Now I actually have something to post that relates to the original subject matter, and it is long gone--search as I might, I can't find a reply which actually contains RTF's post! I seem to recall it had something to do with the new UPL Ish 28 (at least that's what the Subject line up there says), and it for some reason contained that silly phrase, "Strike your ass with the foot," from RBCP's and RTF's BabelFish tomfoolery of olde. Well, I have somehow just stumbled upon a website called 'MultiBabel,' which was created for the sole purpose of such translator abuse: English phrases entered into the text field are parsed into a variety of languages, then back into English. It does its thing by simply funneling the text through BabelFish like 6 times. You'll see that the text it processes in this way comes out the other end technically in English, but the meaning and syntax are completely fubar. This is supposedly meant to provide endless aimless amusement. I typed in the mundane Allsmanism, , "I'm gonna kick your ass!" and it came out as: "Dò its donkey to an effect!" (!?!) "You mess with my wife, boy, you're messing with your life!" was transmogrified into: "You happen over dirty he with spendthrift of the moglie, boy, those you with your life!" Damn, that makes absolutely NO sense. Best part is, it actually shows the retranslation process every step of the way: Original English Text: Dirty he with the moglie of the mine, boy, that you are messing with your life! Translated to French: Sale il avec le moglie de la mine, garçon, que vous salissez avec votre vie! Translated back to English: Salt it with the moglie mine, boy, whom you dirty with your life! Translated to German: Salzen Sie es mit der moglie Grube, Junge, der Sie schmutzig mit Ihrem Leben! Translated back to English: Salt it with the moglie pit, boy, that you dirtily with your life! Translated to Italian: Salilo sporco con il pozzo del moglie, ragazzo, quel voi con la vostra vita! Translated back to English: You go up it dirty with the sink of the moglie, boy, those you with your life! Translated to Portuguese: Você vai acima dele sujo com o dissipador do moglie, menino, aqueles você com sua vida! Translated back to English: You go above of dirty it with the spendthrift of moglie, boy, those you with its life! Translated to Spanish: ¡Usted pasa por encima de sucio él con el spendthrift del moglie, muchacho, ésos usted con su vida! Translated back to English: You happen over dirty he with spendthrift of the moglie, boy, those you with your life! Just in case you think it might be cheating... Here's the URL: http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ Have phun, and please, please, please--I am begging you, (I swear, I'm on my knees here) don't flame me! I think my poor dear heart would break if I had to endure any more harsh words... pleaaase?. === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 08:14:35 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:14:35 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <2.1.1-1459759-371-A-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> im deeply offended by both of you love not war Mr Peanut wrote: > From: "Mr Peanut" > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:45:46 -0400 > > oh im hurt, truly. Quite a zinger! I just hate when annoying "im so > fucking smart" assholes dont like me. Look no one cares if you say > assessment instead of "I guess my thought was correct". In fact you > look like an ass for bother to use the word. I know you'll come back > with "I talk like that all the time" "stop flaming me" "I dont have a > penis" "My daddy touches my bumb" and the like. >> >> Well I never thought you were but shit, right from the beginning. >> And it appears I was >> correct in that assessment. >> >> --- Mr Peanut wrote: >> > I think less of you each email you send. >> > >You're welcome. >> > >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would >> expect no less >> > >were I ever >> > >wrong about anything. >> > > >> > >--- arcmna wrote: >> > > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >> > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM >> > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' >> > > > >> > > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. >> To 'concur >> > > > that he shut the >> > > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to >> people >> > >for >> > > > no reason at >> > > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor >> charming nor >> > > > compelling. It >> > > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive >> > >moron. >> > > > Many people >> > > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are >> all going >> > >to >> > > > flame, argue >> > > > with, and attack me for saying it. >> > > > >> > > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: >> > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >> > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? >> > > > > > >> > > > > >-----Original Message----- >> > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >> > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >> > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! >> > > > > > >> > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back >> > >into >> > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a >> > >while. >> > > > > >I >> > > > > > > still like it. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking >> > >Bunnies >> > > > > >zine. >> > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- RTF >> > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >> > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net >> > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >> > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' >> line! Is that >> > > > > >posted >> > > > > > > anywhere in the >> > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that >> post RPCP >> > > > wrote >> > > > > > > back in the >> > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' >> (suddenly >> > > > > >everything >> > > > > > > turns all wavy >> > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 08:21:46 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:21:46 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <2.1.1-1460575-371-B-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> alright - i have to admit i am at work bored out of my mind - but i=20 actually found that ammusing and therefore cant think of a good flame.=20 Sorry Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 00:03:05 -0700 (PDT) >=20 >=20 > Wow. This thread has been, like, totally overrun with our petty=20 > bickerings back > and forth. Now I actually have something to post that relates to the=20 > original > subject matter, and it is long gone--search as I might, I can't find a r= eply > which actually contains RTF's post! >=20 > I seem to recall it had something to do with the new UPL Ish 28 (at lea= st > that's what the Subject line up there says), and it for some reason=20 > contained > that silly phrase, "Strike your ass with the foot," from RBCP's and RTF= 's > BabelFish tomfoolery of olde. >=20 > Well, I have somehow just stumbled upon a website called 'MultiBabel,' w= hich > was created for the sole purpose of such translator abuse: English phra= ses > entered into the text field are parsed into a variety of languages,=20 > then back > into English. It does its thing by simply funneling the text through=20 > BabelFish > like 6 times. >=20 > You'll see that the text it processes in this way comes out the other e= nd > technically in English, but the meaning and syntax are completely=20 > fubar. This > is supposedly meant to provide endless aimless amusement. >=20 > I typed in the mundane Allsmanism, , "I'm gonna kick your ass!" and it= =20 > came out > as: "D=F2 its donkey to an effect!" (!?!) >=20 > "You mess with my wife, boy, you're messing with your life!" was=20 > transmogrified > into: "You happen over dirty he with spendthrift of the moglie, boy,=20 > those you > with your life!" Damn, that makes absolutely NO sense. >=20 > Best part is, it actually shows the retranslation process every step of= the > way: >=20 > Original English Text: > Dirty he with the moglie of the mine, boy, that you are messing with=20 > your life! >=20 >=20 > Translated to French: > Sale il avec le moglie de la mine, gar=E7on, que vous salissez avec=20 > votre vie! >=20 > Translated back to English: > Salt it with the moglie mine, boy, whom you dirty with your life! >=20 > Translated to German: > Salzen Sie es mit der moglie Grube, Junge, der Sie schmutzig mit Ihrem= =20 > Leben! >=20 > Translated back to English: > Salt it with the moglie pit, boy, that you dirtily with your life! >=20 > Translated to Italian: > Salilo sporco con il pozzo del moglie, ragazzo, quel voi con la vostra= =20 > vita! >=20 > Translated back to English: > You go up it dirty with the sink of the moglie, boy, those you with=20 > your life! >=20 > Translated to Portuguese: > Voc=EA vai acima dele sujo com o dissipador do moglie, menino, aqueles= =20 > voc=EA com > sua vida! >=20 > Translated back to English: > You go above of dirty it with the spendthrift of moglie, boy, those you= with > its life! >=20 > Translated to Spanish: > =A1Usted pasa por encima de sucio =E9l con el spendthrift del moglie, m= uchacho, > =E9sos usted con su vida! >=20 > Translated back to English: > You happen over dirty he with spendthrift of the moglie, boy, those you= with > your life! >=20 > Just in case you think it might be cheating... >=20 > Here's the URL: >=20 > http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ >=20 > Have phun, and please, please, please--I am begging you, (I swear, I'm o= n my > knees here) don't flame me! I think my poor dear heart would break if= =20 > I had to > endure any more harsh words... =20 > pleaaase?. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D message truncated =3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 08:22:59 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:22:59 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <2.1.1-1461359-371-C-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> stfu gayhead Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:57:31 -0700 (PDT) > > Well I never thought you were but shit, right from the beginning. And > it appears I was > correct in that assessment. > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: >> I think less of you each email you send. >> >You're welcome. >> >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect >> no less >> >were I ever >> >wrong about anything. >> > >> >--- arcmna wrote: >> > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >> > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >> > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM >> > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >> > > >> > > >> > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' >> > > >> > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To >> 'concur >> > > that he shut the >> > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people >> >for >> > > no reason at >> > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor >> > > compelling. It >> > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive >> >moron. >> > > Many people >> > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are >> all going >> >to >> > > flame, argue >> > > with, and attack me for saying it. >> > > >> > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: >> > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >> > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concours? >> > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- >> > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >> > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >> > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! >> > > > > >> > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it back >> >into >> > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff for a >> >while. >> > > > >I >> > > > > > still like it. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy Phreaking >> >Bunnies >> > > > >zine. >> > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- RTF >> > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >> > > > > > http://phonelosers.net >> > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >> > > > > > >> > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >> > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! >> Is that >> > > > >posted >> > > > > > anywhere in the >> > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that >> post RPCP >> > > wrote >> > > > > > back in the >> > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' (suddenly >> > > > >everything >> > > > > > turns all wavy >> > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on a TV >> > > > >sitcom)... >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am sitting in a webdesign team production class, >> >surreptitiously >> > > > >reading >> > > > > > my email while >> > > > > > > another classmate presents her contribution to the class >> >project... >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > A post by RBCP informs us that he's translated some PLA >> >back-issues >> > > > >into >> > > > > > Spanish using >> > > > > > > BabelFish, and then just for kicks he has re-translated >> one--the >> > > Dino >> > > > > > Allsman episode, no >> > > > > > > less--back into English. The entire thing is damnably >> silly. The >> > > hook >> > > > >is, From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 19:58:54 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:58:54 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: Only flame I could come up with was something about petty. Worthless > >alright - i have to admit i am at work bored out of my mind - but i >actually found that ammusing and therefore cant think of a good flame. >Sorry > >Colonel Panic wrote: > >>From: Colonel Panic >>Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 00:03:05 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >>Wow. This thread has been, like, totally overrun with our petty bickerings >>back >>and forth. Now I actually have something to post that relates to the >>original >>subject matter, and it is long gone--search as I might, I can't find a >>reply >>which actually contains RTF's post! >> >>I seem to recall it had something to do with the new UPL Ish 28 (at least >>that's what the Subject line up there says), and it for some reason >>contained >>that silly phrase, "Strike your ass with the foot," from RBCP's and RTF's >>BabelFish tomfoolery of olde. >> >>Well, I have somehow just stumbled upon a website called 'MultiBabel,' >>which >>was created for the sole purpose of such translator abuse: English phrases >>entered into the text field are parsed into a variety of languages, then >>back >>into English. It does its thing by simply funneling the text through >>BabelFish >>like 6 times. >> >>You'll see that the text it processes in this way comes out the other end >>technically in English, but the meaning and syntax are completely fubar. >>This >>is supposedly meant to provide endless aimless amusement. >> >>I typed in the mundane Allsmanism, , "I'm gonna kick your ass!" and it >>came out >>as: "Dò its donkey to an effect!" (!?!) >> >>"You mess with my wife, boy, you're messing with your life!" was >>transmogrified >>into: "You happen over dirty he with spendthrift of the moglie, boy, those >>you >>with your life!" Damn, that makes absolutely NO sense. >> >>Best part is, it actually shows the retranslation process every step of >>the >>way: >> >>Original English Text: >>Dirty he with the moglie of the mine, boy, that you are messing with your >>life! >> >> >>Translated to French: >>Sale il avec le moglie de la mine, garçon, que vous salissez avec votre >>vie! >> >>Translated back to English: >>Salt it with the moglie mine, boy, whom you dirty with your life! >> >>Translated to German: >>Salzen Sie es mit der moglie Grube, Junge, der Sie schmutzig mit Ihrem >>Leben! >> >>Translated back to English: >>Salt it with the moglie pit, boy, that you dirtily with your life! >> >>Translated to Italian: >>Salilo sporco con il pozzo del moglie, ragazzo, quel voi con la vostra >>vita! >> >>Translated back to English: >>You go up it dirty with the sink of the moglie, boy, those you with your >>life! >> >>Translated to Portuguese: >>Você vai acima dele sujo com o dissipador do moglie, menino, aqueles você >>com >>sua vida! >> >>Translated back to English: >>You go above of dirty it with the spendthrift of moglie, boy, those you >>with >>its life! >> >>Translated to Spanish: >>¡Usted pasa por encima de sucio él con el spendthrift del moglie, >>muchacho, >>ésos usted con su vida! >> >>Translated back to English: >>You happen over dirty he with spendthrift of the moglie, boy, those you >>with >>your life! >> >>Just in case you think it might be cheating... >> >>Here's the URL: >> >>http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ >> >>Have phun, and please, please, please--I am begging you, (I swear, I'm on >>my >>knees here) don't flame me! I think my poor dear heart would break if I >>had to >>endure any more harsh words... >>pleaaase?. >> >>=== message truncated === >> >> >>===== >>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK >> >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; >> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> --Aleister Crowley >>___________________________________________________________ >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >>http://faith.yahoo.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >>Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> >>Phonelosers mailing list >>Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 19:59:41 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:59:41 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: eww are you gay or somethin??? i not making love to you sicko!! > >im deeply offended by both of you > >love not war > >Mr Peanut wrote: > >>From: "Mr Peanut" >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:45:46 -0400 >> >>oh im hurt, truly. Quite a zinger! I just hate when annoying "im so >>fucking smart" assholes dont like me. Look no one cares if you say >>assessment instead of "I guess my thought was correct". In fact you look >>like an ass for bother to use the word. I know you'll come back with "I >>talk like that all the time" "stop flaming me" "I dont have a penis" "My >>daddy touches my bumb" and the like. >>> >>>Well I never thought you were but shit, right from the beginning. And it >>>appears I was >>>correct in that assessment. >>> >>>--- Mr Peanut wrote: >>> > I think less of you each email you send. >>> > >You're welcome. >>> > >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect >>>no less >>> > >were I ever >>> > >wrong about anything. >>> > > >>> > >--- arcmna wrote: >>> > > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. >>> > > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >>> > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >>> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM >>> > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' >>> > > > >>> > > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To >>>'concur >>> > > > that he shut the >>> > > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to >>>people >>> > >for >>> > > > no reason at >>> > > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming >>>nor >>> > > > compelling. It >>> > > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive >>> > >moron. >>> > > > Many people >>> > > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all >>>going >>> > >to >>> > > > flame, argue >>> > > > with, and attack me for saying it. >>> > > > >>> > > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: >>> > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >>> > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else >>>concours? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >-----Original Message----- >>> > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >>> > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel >>>Panic >>> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >>> > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: >>> > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it >>>back >>> > >into >>> > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff >>>for a >>> > >while. >>> > > > > >I >>> > > > > > > still like it. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy >>>Phreaking >>> > >Bunnies >>> > > > > >zine. >>> > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > -- RTF >>> > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >>> > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net >>> > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >>> > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! >>>Is that >>> > > > > >posted >>> > > > > > > anywhere in the >>> > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that >>>post RPCP >>> > > > wrote >>> > > > > > > back in the >>> > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' >>>(suddenly >>> > > > > >everything >>> > > > > > > turns all wavy >>> > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on >>>a > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 20:01:37 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:01:37 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: One year later and people still wont let it die. Look shit happens, though this was really bad you have to eventually stop talking about it. These stories are just to make up for a lack of news and that is due to shitty reporters. Thats right Connie Chung, you little slut. >Did anybody hear about this? It was in the news quite some time ago, and I >just came >across a note I'd written to myself like a month ago to investigate it >further, via the >www. > >(More insightful commentary follows the news piece, in case you hadn't >already >guessed...) >_________________________________________________________ >Bone Fragments Found On Roof Near WTC Site >Officials Not Sure If Fragments Are Human Remains > >POSTED: 8:53 a.m. EDT August 29, 2002 >UPDATED: 10:11 a.m. EDT September 1, 2002 > >NEW YORK -- Human remains that blew out of the World Trade Center towers >during the Sept. >11 attack are being found by construction workers repairing damaged >buildings around the >disaster site. > >Three bone fragments the size of small twigs were found Wednesday evening >by workers on >the roof of 130 Liberty St., owned by Deutsche Bank, according to Port >Authority Police >Lt. John Ryan, who oversaw remains recovery during the nine-month >excavation of the site. > > >The heavily damaged 40-story building, covered with black netting and a >giant American >flag, sits just south of ground zero. > > >The finding came less than two weeks after workers spotted a woman's pelvic >bone atop 90 >West St., a 25-story building at the southwest edge of the trade center >site. > >Ryan said other fragments in addition to the 6-by-7-inch pelvis have been >found there in >recent weeks. > >"When you think about all the tons of debris and the force of the impact, >even though >everything was thoroughly checked and rechecked, you're going to have >situations where >remains will be found," Ryan said. > >After the excavation of the 16-acre site ended in June, firefighters and >police officers >expanded the recovery effort to several of the nearby buildings, and found >bone >fragments, teeth and even parts of an airplane luggage rack. > >City officials had said the more thorough inspections were delayed because >the work at >the trade center site blocked access to the buildings, and some had to be >secured before >crews could enter. The Deutsche Bank building was the last to be searched, >finishing on >June 24 after the city and the owners agreed on access to the structure, >which was >contaminated with mold. > >"While they were searched thoroughly, some of the damage may have precluded >people >getting to every inch of it," Ryan said. "Now that it's being repaired or >those damaged >areas are being removed, they're finding things." > >The discoveries this month have not prompted any plans to comb the >buildings again, Ryan >said, but all construction crews at or near the trade center site have been >instructed to >watch for possible human remains. > >"I think everyone realizes that even if you went over the entire site inch >by inch again, >just due to human error and the makeup of the site, things will be missed >-- but >hopefully now they'll be discovered at some point," Ryan said. > >Nearly 20,000 pieces of human remains found in the debris have been logged >at the medical >examiner's office. Of the 2,800 people killed, the remains of 1,379 have >been identified, >648 by DNA alone. > >About half of the parts recovered did not initially yield enough DNA for >standard tests, >but a groundbreaking procedure to begin in September is expected to lead to >identifications for many of those, officials said Thursday. > >The city had been working with Orchid GeneScreen in Dallas to adapt a test >that examines >pieces of DNA shorter than 100 base pairs, which form the signature double >helix of human >DNA. > >Billions of chemical base pairs make up DNA, and forensic experts generally >work with DNA >samples of about 400 base pairs. As DNA degrades over time, it shrinks, >decreasing the >number of base pairs. > >The DNA in trade center remains was damaged even further by humidity and >exposure to >heat, according to Dr. Robert Shaler, chief of forensic biology at the >medical examiner's >office. > >The new procedure looks at single nucleotide polymorphisms, or snips, tiny >variations in >the smallest building blocks of DNA that are common among many people. Each >person is >estimated to have between three and 10 million snips. > >Scientists already use the procedure for disease research, but the medical >examiner's >adaptation is new. >_________________________________________________________ > >Isn't it strange that it took them over a year to discover such large >pieces of human >remains on the rooftops of buildings in the area? > >If that pelvis was complete and not just fragmentary, it must have come >from a very >petite woman--I mean, 6-by-7 inches? It must have been just part of a >pelvis. I was just >watching a video of the second plane hitting the South tower, and I could >plainly see >quite a bit of pretty huge-looking, flaming debris fragments flying out the >opposite side >of the building from where the plane went in, emerging from the fireball >and sailing out6 >for what looked like many city blocks. I wonder what those were, and if >they were all >recovered... > > > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 22:06:42 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:06:42 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: blah blah blah dont be a homophobe! OH NO IM NOT GAY i have tons of orgies every night and a live-in female cat, no no really i'm not gay. Seriously fag, i'm not gay, i think fags are gross, dont be a homophobe you fag. blah blah blah blhabl halbhalbhablh ablahblbah blah blah blahb blah blha i am better than you all muhahaha -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:00 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! eww are you gay or somethin??? i not making love to you sicko!! > >im deeply offended by both of you > >love not war > >Mr Peanut wrote: > >>From: "Mr Peanut" >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:45:46 -0400 >> >>oh im hurt, truly. Quite a zinger! I just hate when annoying "im so >>fucking smart" assholes dont like me. Look no one cares if you say >>assessment instead of "I guess my thought was correct". In fact you look >>like an ass for bother to use the word. I know you'll come back with "I >>talk like that all the time" "stop flaming me" "I dont have a penis" "My >>daddy touches my bumb" and the like. >>> >>>Well I never thought you were but shit, right from the beginning. And it >>>appears I was >>>correct in that assessment. >>> >>>--- Mr Peanut wrote: >>> > I think less of you each email you send. >>> > >You're welcome. >>> > >See, I like people who thank me for correcting them. I would expect >>>no less >>> > >were I ever >>> > >wrong about anything. >>> > > >>> > >--- arcmna wrote: >>> > > > We both spelled concour, not conour, but thanks for correcting me. >>> > > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >>> > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Panic >>> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:39 PM >>> > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' >>> > > > >>> > > > To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To >>>'concur >>> > > > that he shut the >>> > > > fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to >>>people >>> > >for >>> > > > no reason at >>> > > > all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming >>>nor >>> > > > compelling. It >>> > > > just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive >>> > >moron. >>> > > > Many people >>> > > > here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all >>>going >>> > >to >>> > > > flame, argue >>> > > > with, and attack me for saying it. >>> > > > >>> > > > --- Mr Peanut wrote: >>> > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up >>> > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else >>>concours? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >-----Original Message----- >>> > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >>> > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel >>>Panic >>> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM >>> > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >--- Rob T Firefly wrote: >>> > > > > > > Actually, RBCP posted the Spanish one, and I translated it >>>back >>> > >into >>> > > > > > > English. Then, people started saying it on IRC and stuff >>>for a >>> > >while. >>> > > > > >I >>> > > > > > > still like it. >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > RBCP put it in issue 9 of the much-loved Pink Fluffy >>>Phreaking >>> > >Bunnies >>> > > > > >zine. >>> > > > > > > http://phonelosers.org/zips/peach009.txt >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > -- RTF >>> > > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >>> > > > > > > http://phonelosers.net >>> > > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >>> > > > > > > > WOW! I remember that 'strike my ass with the foot' line! >>>Is that >>> > > > > >posted >>> > > > > > > anywhere in the >>> > > > > > > > PLA or UPL archives? I remember when I first read that >>>post RPCP >>> > > > wrote >>> > > > > > > back in the >>> > > > > > > > day--like, 1999, on the old OneList 'PLA_Discussion' >>>(suddenly >>> > > > > >everything >>> > > > > > > turns all wavy >>> > > > > > > > and fuzzy, like the segueway into a flashback sequence on >>>a > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 22:12:10 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:12:10 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: --part1_fe.1f265b13.2ad352aa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > One year later and people still wont let it die. > it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people died in the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before. If you don't like it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it. It's simple. --part1_fe.1f265b13.2ad352aa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes:


One year later and people still wont let it die.


it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people died in the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before.  If you don't like it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it.  It's simple. --part1_fe.1f265b13.2ad352aa_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 7 23:35:39 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 18:35:39 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: People die its a fucking fact of life, we all die. Im sick of hearing than dont read it. No, dont tell me what to fucking do. Sometimes im ashamed to say im american, the ignorant nationality > >In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > One year later and people still wont let it die. > > > >it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people died >in >the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before. If you don't >like >it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it. It's simple. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 00:11:24 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:11:24 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <14c.156d36f0.2ad36e9c@aol.com> --part1_14c.156d36f0.2ad36e9c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 6:40:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > No, dont tell me what to fucking do. Then don't tell people what to think. --part1_14c.156d36f0.2ad36e9c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 6:40:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes:


No, dont tell me what to fucking do.


Then don't tell people what to think. --part1_14c.156d36f0.2ad36e9c_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 01:29:11 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 20:29:11 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: Once again dont tell me what to do. Also replying to one liners sure is fun,eh? ASSS >In a message dated 10/7/02 6:40:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > No, dont tell me what to fucking do. > >Then don't tell people what to think. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 02:09:27 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:09:27 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i'm ashamed to say you're an american too, go back to europe crackah! -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:36 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later People die its a fucking fact of life, we all die. Im sick of hearing than dont read it. No, dont tell me what to fucking do. Sometimes im ashamed to say im american, the ignorant nationality > >In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > One year later and people still wont let it die. > > > >it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people died >in >the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before. If you don't >like >it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it. It's simple. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 02:39:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:39:36 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! > >i'm ashamed to say you're an american too, go back to europe crackah! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut >Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:36 PM >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a >year later > > >People die its a fucking fact of life, we all die. Im sick of hearing than >dont read it. No, dont tell me what to fucking do. Sometimes im ashamed to >say im american, the ignorant nationality > > > >In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > One year later and people still wont let it die. > > > > > > >it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people died > >in > >the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before. If you don't > >like > >it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it. It's simple. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 03:05:35 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:05:35 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HAHA ITS SPELLED BOARD, inferior honkeys cant even spell -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:40 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! > >i'm ashamed to say you're an american too, go back to europe crackah! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut >Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:36 PM >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a >year later > > >People die its a fucking fact of life, we all die. Im sick of hearing than >dont read it. No, dont tell me what to fucking do. Sometimes im ashamed to >say im american, the ignorant nationality > > > >In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > One year later and people still wont let it die. > > > > > > >it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people died > >in > >the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before. If you don't > >like > >it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it. It's simple. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 03:29:08 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:29:08 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: --part1_d1.1f8e4058.2ad39cf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 8:34:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > Once again dont tell me what to do. You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the WTC" and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving advice on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the subject then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do whatever the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. Whether you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when you tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response is "Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? --part1_d1.1f8e4058.2ad39cf4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 8:34:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes:


Once again dont tell me what to do.


You're a real hypocrite.  You bitch and tell people to forget about "the WTC" and saying that it should be forgotten about.  Therefore you're giving advice on how I should view the current events.  Maybe YOU should drop the subject then.  Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do."  I'll do whatever the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you.  Whether you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when you tell me "not to tell you what do to."  Your only halfway decent response is "Don't tell me what do to."  It's getting old, and I'm obviously not interested.  Are you twelve, or just incompetant? --part1_d1.1f8e4058.2ad39cf4_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 03:30:52 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:30:52 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <15c.14f64d61.2ad39d5c@aol.com> --part1_15c.14f64d61.2ad39d5c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 9:41:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON > BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! HA! I guess I shouldn't have bothered replying to your last response. After I read this, it just proves how retarded you are. --part1_15c.14f64d61.2ad39d5c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 9:41:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes:


I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON
BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE!


HA!  I guess I shouldn't have bothered replying to your last response.  After I read this, it just proves how retarded you are. --part1_15c.14f64d61.2ad39d5c_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 04:41:06 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:41:06 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210080240.g982e6632196@smtp2.ixpres.com> Don't tell him what to do > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:29:08 EDT > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the WTC" >and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving advice >on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the subject >then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do whatever >the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. Whether >you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when you >tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response is >"Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not >interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 03:41:25 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:41:25 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: somebody want to outline that for me? all I got was that im 12, the rest was much to bitchy and advanced for me. > >In a message dated 10/7/02 8:34:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Once again dont tell me what to do. > >You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the >WTC" >and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving >advice >on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the subject >then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do whatever >the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. >Whether >you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when >you >tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response is >"Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not >interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 03:43:06 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:43:06 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: well im a 12 year old retard? You're the moron, talking to a 12 year old retard > >In a message dated 10/7/02 9:41:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON > > BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! > >HA! I guess I shouldn't have bothered replying to your last response. >After >I read this, it just proves how retarded you are. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 04:45:11 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:45:11 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210080244.g982iA601196@smtp2.ixpres.com> Shut up nat bread. > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: "arcmna" > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:09:27 -0400 > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >i'm ashamed to say you're an american too, go back to europe crackah! > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 04:50:10 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:50:10 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] (no subject) Message-ID: <200210080249.g982n9603226@smtp2.ixpres.com> How can you call mrpeanut a 12 year old retard? First of all he's 13, arent you mrpeanut? you're not 12. > >darkguysomething@aol.com writes: > > > > I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON > > BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! > >HA! I guess I shouldn't have bothered replying to your last response. >After >I read this, it just proves how retarded you are. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 04:10:07 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 23:10:07 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <193.e953afe.2ad3a68f@aol.com> --part1_193.e953afe.2ad3a68f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 10:43:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > You're the moron, talking to a 12 year old > retard at least you'll admit to it. --part1_193.e953afe.2ad3a68f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/02 10:43:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, georgemct@hotmail.com writes:


You're the moron, talking to a 12 year old
retard


at least you'll admit to it. --part1_193.e953afe.2ad3a68f_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 04:25:48 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:25:48 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: damn you got me. fuck > >HAHA ITS SPELLED BOARD, inferior honkeys cant even spell > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut >Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:40 PM >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a >year later > > >I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON >BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! > > > >i'm ashamed to say you're an american too, go back to europe crackah! > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > >Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:36 PM > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a > >year later > > > > > >People die its a fucking fact of life, we all die. Im sick of hearing >than > >dont read it. No, dont tell me what to fucking do. Sometimes im ashamed >to > >say im american, the ignorant nationality > > > > > >In a message dated 10/7/02 3:03:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > One year later and people still wont let it die. > > > > > > > > > >it's not like that's another "Oh boy, this is so tragic, 6500 people >died > > >in > > >the WTC attack" like you've heard a million times before. If you don't > > >like > > >it, don't read/listen/watch stuff about it. It's simple. > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 11:29:17 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 06:29:17 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] (no subject) Message-ID: you called me 13 like 3 years ago, obviously you are 10 and lack proper math skill > >How can you call mrpeanut a 12 year old retard? First of all he's 13, arent >you mrpeanut? >you're not 12. > > > > > >darkguysomething@aol.com writes: > > > > > > > I havent actually been so you statment is completly false! YOU MORON > > > BASTARD! GO BASTARDIZE SOME OTHER BORED WITH YOUR WHITE ON WHITE HATE! > > > >HA! I guess I shouldn't have bothered replying to your last response. > >After > >I read this, it just proves how retarded you are. > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 8 11:29:58 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 06:29:58 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: I find it funny when you take everything seriously, please continue. > >In a message dated 10/7/02 10:43:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > You're the moron, talking to a 12 year old > > retard > >at least you'll admit to it. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 03:24:50 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021009022450.98816.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> I wouldn't be surprised if he was both. He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't be surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got allies. --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/7/02 8:34:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Once again dont tell me what to do. > > You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the WTC" > > and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving advice > > on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the subject > then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do whatever > the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. Whether > you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when you > > tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response is > "Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not > interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 04:21:11 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:21:11 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: --part1_d3.1328c968.2ad4faa7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/2002 10:29:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > wouldn't be surprised if he was both. > He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't > be > surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email > accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got > allies. > And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone needs "allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around and call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone outside of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really bad. On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts to leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. --part1_d3.1328c968.2ad4faa7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/2002 10:29:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes:


wouldn't be surprised if he was both.
He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't be
surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email
accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got allies.


And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone needs "allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around and call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone outside of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really bad.

On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts to leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. --part1_d3.1328c968.2ad4faa7_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 09:00:55 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:00:55 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210090700.g99707603831@smtp2.ixpres.com> > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >I wouldn't be surprised if he was both. >He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't be >surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email >accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got allies. > Aww *sniffle* is the baby hurt? *sniffle*sniffle* momma will make it all better! Wait a second, when has mrpeanut ever been an ally for me? damn it! I better have a long hard talk with myself. Oh, and I see your penis fetish is coming out again, keep it in man! Or out, you know in this day and age it's okay to come out of the closet. It's a new day and age man! It's okay if you want to dress up in a little skirt and make out with all the cute boys. Well, anyways, I'll see you at the picnic. Ill bring the beans, you bring the potato salad. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 09:03:51 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:03:51 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210090703.g9972w605198@smtp2.ixpres.com> And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that another aoler can't figure out how to unsubscribe himself from a mailing list. "for kicks"... right... wink wink. > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: NetMaster7@aol.com > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:21:11 EDT > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone needs >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around and >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone outside >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really >bad. > >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts to >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 08:09:22 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (arcmna) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 03:09:22 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <200210090700.g99707603831@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: brothers, please. it really does not matter. open your hearts to the way of god and let go of your anger. you must realize by now that argueing like this is about as effective as smashing your balls with a hammer to prove your point. please, all of you, shut the fuck up, because you are all wrong, and i am right, hahaha -----Original Message----- From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:01 AM To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >I wouldn't be surprised if he was both. >He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't be >surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email >accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got allies. > Aww *sniffle* is the baby hurt? *sniffle*sniffle* momma will make it all better! Wait a second, when has mrpeanut ever been an ally for me? damn it! I better have a long hard talk with myself. Oh, and I see your penis fetish is coming out again, keep it in man! Or out, you know in this day and age it's okay to come out of the closet. It's a new day and age man! It's okay if you want to dress up in a little skirt and make out with all the cute boys. Well, anyways, I'll see you at the picnic. Ill bring the beans, you bring the potato salad. _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 22:16:28 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 17:16:28 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: Its true! I have a split personality, it couldnt be that we know each other and say hey lets piss off this annoying fag.. > >I wouldn't be surprised if he was both. >He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't >be >surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email >accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got >allies. > >--- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/7/02 8:34:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > georgemct@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > > > Once again dont tell me what to do. > > > > You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the >WTC" > > > > and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving >advice > > > > on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the >subject > > then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do >whatever > > the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. >Whether > > you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach >when you > > > > tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response >is > > "Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not > > interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? > > > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 22:18:09 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 17:18:09 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: I dont know about them but, Im completely not serious >In a message dated 10/8/2002 10:29:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > > > > wouldn't be surprised if he was both. > > He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I >wouldn't > > be > > surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email > > accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got > > allies. > > > >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone >needs >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around >and >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone >outside >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really >bad. > >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts >to >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 22:19:40 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 17:19:40 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: what if i said, I agree with you? What then? Eh? > >brothers, please. it really does not matter. open your hearts to the way of >god >and let go of your anger. you must realize by now that argueing like this >is >about >as effective as smashing your balls with a hammer to prove your point. >please, all >of you, shut the fuck up, because you are all wrong, and i am right, hahaha > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp >Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:01 AM >To: phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a >year later > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year >later > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >I wouldn't be surprised if he was both. > >He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't >be > >surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email > >accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got >allies. > > > >Aww *sniffle* is the baby hurt? *sniffle*sniffle* momma will make it all >better! > >Wait a second, when has mrpeanut ever been an ally for me? damn it! I >better >have a long hard >talk with myself. Oh, and I see your penis fetish is coming out again, keep >it in man! Or out, >you know in this day and age it's okay to come out of the closet. It's a >new >day and age man! >It's okay if you want to dress up in a little skirt and make out with all >the cute boys. Well, >anyways, I'll see you at the picnic. Ill bring the beans, you bring the >potato salad. > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 22:21:13 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 17:21:13 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: why most you always put on that tough guy attitude it public? You never treat me right. You don't hold the door and you never pulled out my chair. You bastard, its over and im taking the kids > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year >later > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >I wouldn't be surprised if he was both. > >He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't >be > >surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email > >accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got >allies. > > > >Aww *sniffle* is the baby hurt? *sniffle*sniffle* momma will make it all >better! > >Wait a second, when has mrpeanut ever been an ally for me? damn it! I >better have a long hard >talk with myself. Oh, and I see your penis fetish is coming out again, keep >it in man! Or out, >you know in this day and age it's okay to come out of the closet. It's a >new day and age man! >It's okay if you want to dress up in a little skirt and make out with all >the cute boys. Well, >anyways, I'll see you at the picnic. Ill bring the beans, you bring the >potato salad. > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 9 23:19:46 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:19:46 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later References: Message-ID: <006801c26fe1$f9aec360$ee92bd18@gio> From: NetMaster7@aol.com > >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone needs >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around and >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone outside >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really >bad. > >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts to >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how many times this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 10 00:42:43 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:42:43 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: "back in the day" What day? I never got that cliche. Theres been alot of "Days" how do i know which one It should be "back in the day of..." > >From: NetMaster7@aol.com > > > >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone >needs > >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around >and > >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone >outside > >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. >Really > >bad. > > > >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day >(kept > >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts >to > >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's >depressing. > >It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how many times >this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years. > > -- RTF >http://bounce.to/rtf >http://phonelosers.net >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 10 01:35:46 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:35:46 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <2.1.1-9472061-393-B-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> bullshit- you were telling me in aim how much all of this was really getting you down. You dont have to tell everyonf the whole truth but at least dont lie. Mr Peanut wrote: > From: "Mr Peanut" > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a > year later > Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 17:18:09 -0400 > > I dont know about them but, Im completely not serious >> In a message dated 10/8/2002 10:29:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: >> >> >> > wouldn't be surprised if he was both. >> > He just likes to argue. He and PeniSaur are two peas in a pod. I wouldn't >> > be >> > surprised if they were both the same person just using 2 different email >> > accounts and saying the same things to try to make us think he's got >> > allies. >> > >> >> And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that >> someone needs >> "allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit >> around and >> call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone >> outside >> of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really >> bad. >> >> On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept >> around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my >> attempts to >> leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 12 22:24:13 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating In-Reply-To: <20021004065726.97015.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Okay, I am picking up where I left off. Let's see if I can get this down to the end today. On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Hmmm... strange. It didn't send the whole thing. Here it is (hopefully in its entirety). > > ____________________________________________ > Don Norman -- In Defense of Cheating > > [clipped] > > Consider plagiarization. The sin of plagiarization is not that it involves copying -- > this should be rewarded -- but that it doesn't give credit for the originator. Deceit is So copying should be rewarded so that we can be trained to act more uniformed in the corporate world ahead of us? Yay! [more clipped] (I already read that before) > No wonder the intense competition, no wonder the cramming for exams, no wonder cheating > -- anything to get ahead. No wonder copying without attribution, for the students feel > compelled to lie: the student who finds just the perfect essay and presents it to the > instructor receives no credit if the essay was written by someone else. But suppose the > student got credit for finding the essay, that the reward was based upon just how > relevant and insightful that essay really was? And if both the student who presented the > essay and the originator of the essay received credit? If we want people to be idea thieves instead of being creative, then yes. But this would not really change anything, because most people are already idea-thieves, and if I go outside and look at the new houses which are just little boxes with square holes in them, I am assured that I won't have to worry about creativity running over my neighborhood anytime soon. > This is a tricky concept. Thus, if one student writes a paper and another simply copies > it, no, that's not what we are trying to encourage, not even if full credit is given to > the original. The goal is to support cooperative work, where everyone contributes, each We're trying to encourage no students writing papers, simply copy them from somewhere else and then tell them how good they were at copying these insightful works. > according to their abilities, but that those abilities are recorded and become part of > the student transcript. In other words, the goal is not to rank order the students by The student transcript? So you get labeled with these "attributes" which then dictate what is expected from you for the rest of your life? > some arbitrary mark of performance measure, which is what grades do, but rather to > determine a student's true attributes and skills and to record them accurately. Some Not possible. > students are scholars, others leaders. Some are team players, others not. Some are > generalists, others specialists. The goal is accurate characterization. We do not need > value judgments among the attributes: society needs all of them. This is equivalent of attempting to control the weather. > In a system where copying is punished, the student feels compelled to lie. Suppose that > copying were encouraged -- honest copying, where the source must be revealed. And suppose > that both the copier and the originator of the material were rewarded, the originator for > their contribution and the copier for knowing where to seek the information. This would > reinforce the correct behaviors, minimize deceit, and encourage cooperativeness. Copying is already encouraged. You -have- to find places to quote from when writing an expository prose. And how does he know that this would reinforce the self-proclaimed "correct" behaviors? Minimize deceit? There'd be a little small trifle of deceit left? Just a minimum amount? > Take a tip from the "recommendation" sites on the Internet, where contributors are rated > on the basis of their effectiveness and usefulness to others. We should grade students on > their effectiveness in forming coalitions in organizing groups, and in the nature of > their contributions to the group work. Thus, if one person is frequently copied, that > person's stature as a contributor should rise. Similarly, if a person makes no original > contribution, but is effective at forming coalitions that solve problems, that person's > status as an organizer should rise. Repetition. I already understood what he meant a few paragraphs ago. > We could change the educational system to make it more relevant to the world, to teach > proper social skills, and at the same time eliminate the deceitful, hidden acts of > cheating by recognizing cheating for the good that it brings: group activities toward a > common end. Okay, a lot of things wrong here. First, the minor: who are "we?" Next, what are "proper social skills" and where did they come from? I was under the impression that we were discussing schooling strategies. And the most disturbing thing; what is this common end that the group activities are aimed at? In the corporate world, inside stupid companies, they usually do completely useless work for the most part, and the only incentive they have in common is money. What fucking goal will there be at school? "If we all copy from each other, there will be lots of sweet punch and candy?" Yay! > Mastery Grading > Today, the grading system fosters a competitive, zero-sum game spirit in which if one > student wins, the others lose. I have long been bothered by the system of grading on the > curve, forcing students to compete rather than cooperate. I favor grading to absolute > standards. Determine what is to be learned and measure how successful each student is in > their accomplishments. If every student gets an A, hurrah! It means every student has > learned. Hurrah! Repetition. > If every student gets an A, this does not mean that all students are equal. Not at all: > some students can accomplish more than others, and this difference should be noted. But Then how will they tell each other apart from each other if each one of them fosters an A? > suppose we replace the fixed curriculum and its rigid grading scheme with a new procedure > in which different students would do different work and their "grade" would be a list of > their accomplishments? Evaluate students on their mastery level: mastery grading. In > addition, evaluate them on their ability to work with others, either by being a > productive team member, by organizing the team, or by their ability to contribute toward > the solution. What are the measuring units that will be applied to evaluating students on their ability to work with others? Will it be "how many others you have worked with?" Will it be "How long you worked with the others?" Or "How many others actually want to work with you?" Will there be decimals? What if one of them lies about wanting to work with you? What if you're ugly? You will be rejected by the system completely. What if your parents molested you when you were little and you have severe neurosis problems which cause you to be unable to interact with people? This will further opress you. Does he know that parents molest their children? Even priests do. > Suppose the grading system measured level of accomplishment. Suppose the school > curriculum were divided into modules of useful knowledge or skills, each relatively small > (a week or two of class, perhaps even a few hours). Each student is mentored, and the > module is marked as complete only when the student masters it. In other words, grade on a > "Pass" basis. But only use "Pass" -- do not use a "Fail" or "Not-Pass" grade. A student > either knows the stuff or doesn't, and in the latter case, the student is encouraged to > keep learning. And if the student does not feel encouraged? This guy's system does not filter out exceptional cases at all. It just changes the system to a different one, but the weirdos are still left out. > Some modules should be mandatory: some optional. Schools could require that students > complete the mandatory modules as well as a specified number of others, perhaps requiring > a distribution across disciplines. The major structure of a curriculum need not change. > The major point of mastery grading is that evaluation specifies the modules completed > rather than today's attempt at measuring the quality of accomplishment of a fixed-length > course. A student transcript would list the set of modules completed satisfactorily. Why should some be mandatory? Just because "we" (they, the grown-ups) want to have some kind of established control over their children? Their marriage partners beat them so they want to have domination over the young, even if not directly? Catalystic subconscious ideas can also raise their intellectual superiority. Magically, like God and Jesus do. I have to go now. I will try to finish this next time. With love, worm3rd. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 03:13:18 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <006801c26fe1$f9aec360$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021013021318.99102.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much they hate the list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day, posting message after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it. If they really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless they are either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case with most of these mental gimps). I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there was often something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, and I actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well, those were obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pretty soon. I suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep contact with, and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst yourselves, calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer to do... --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: NetMaster7@aol.com > > > >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone > needs > >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around > and > >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone > outside > >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. Really > >bad. > > > >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the day (kept > >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts > to > >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's depressing. > > It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how many times > this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 03:52:32 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:52:32 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later References: <20021013021318.99102.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003701c27263$93f91aa0$ee92bd18@gio> C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it needs a good flamewar every now and then to stay vital. Who else remembers the many OS wars? Or the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: "Colonel Panic" > It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much they hate the > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day, posting message > after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it. If they > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless they are > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case with most of > these mental gimps). > > I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there was often > something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, and I > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well, those were > obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pretty soon. I > suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep contact with, > and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst yourselves, > calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer to do... From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 04:33:05 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 20:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <003701c27263$93f91aa0$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: <20021013033305.21770.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, but this new style of flame war is different. It's personal, mean spirited, and it never ends. These idiots aren't holding forth opinions on shit--they're just attacking each other for the lame sport of it. Worst of all, it's not even funny. It's like they have somehow acquired the misguided opinion (perhaps from reading too much Peachy, Inc) that it's the epitome of cool to just be a jerk to everybody. And hell, it's not like this list has very many redeeming qualities anymore, anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have people around like ZehrWang, Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, GoldenEye, et al? You could always count on some good reading with those folks around, if it was sometimes a bit predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this list. I have much better things to do with my time and better people to spend it with. Don't worry RTF, I'll still email you and a few others around here whenever I find something interesting to say. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it needs a good flamewar > every now and then to stay vital. Who else remembers the many OS wars? Or > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much they hate > the > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day, posting > message > > after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it. If > they > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless they are > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case with most > of > > these mental gimps). > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there was > often > > something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, and I > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well, those > were > > obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pretty > soon. I > > suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep contact > with, > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst > yourselves, > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer to > do... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 05:06:59 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:06:59 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <2.1.1-12126342-381-A-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> What was the point of this post? oh wow! You can repeat what youve said= =20 before AND even remain just as whiney(sp?) sounding! I personally hope= =20 you do leave. To refute your cry-baby claims of nothing going on with=20 this list - worm has been posting an intelligent and insightful=20 commentary to the article you posted. Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a=20 > year later > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:13:18 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much they= =20 > hate the > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day,=20 > posting message > after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it. If t= hey > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless they a= re > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case with= =20 > most of > these mental gimps). >=20 > I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there was o= ften > something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, and I= > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well,= =20 > those were > obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pretty= =20 > soon. I > suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep=20 > contact with, > and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst yoursel= ves, > calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer to d= o... >=20 > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> From: NetMaster7@aol.com >> > >> >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someon= e >> needs >> >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit aro= und >> and >> >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone= >> outside >> >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck.= =20 >> Really >> >bad. >> > >> >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the=20 >> day (kept >> >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my atte= mpts >> to >> >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's=20 >> depressing. >>=20 >> It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how many ti= mes >> this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years. >>=20 >> -- RTF >> http://bounce.to/rtf >> http://phonelosers.net >> AIM - Rob T Firefly >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>=20 >> Phonelosers mailing list >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 05:48:56 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:48:56 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <14b.15c1e635.2ada5538@aol.com> --part1_14b.15c1e635.2ada5538_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/02 11:37:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > I think I'm just going to quit this list. Bah, its really not that hard to delete the emails that aren't really any good. By leaving you'll minimize chance for change. --part1_14b.15c1e635.2ada5538_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/02 11:37:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes:


I think I'm just going to quit this list.


Bah, its really not that hard to delete the emails that aren't really any good.  By leaving you'll minimize chance for change. --part1_14b.15c1e635.2ada5538_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 08:23:07 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:23:07 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210130622.g9D6MIi14419@smtp2.ixpres.com> No man, too cute to choose. > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: "Rob T Firefly" > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:52:32 -0400 > To: > >C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it needs a good flamewar >every now and then to stay vital. Who else remembers the many OS wars? Or >the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > -- RTF >http://bounce.to/rtf >http://phonelosers.net >AIM - Rob T Firefly > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 19:10:23 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <2.1.1-12126342-381-A-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> Message-ID: <20021013181023.96256.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being said in that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bunch of ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I considered it wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary' precisely illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lot of pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical thinking means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to say just to be disagreeable. --- arcmna@mail.softhome.net wrote: > > What was the point of this post? oh wow! You can repeat what youve said > before AND even remain just as whiney(sp?) sounding! I personally hope > you do leave. To refute your cry-baby claims of nothing going on with > this list - worm has been posting an intelligent and insightful > commentary to the article you posted. > Colonel Panic wrote: > > > From: Colonel Panic > > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a > > year later > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:13:18 -0700 (PDT) > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much they > > hate the > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day, > > posting message > > after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it. If they > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless they are > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case with > > most of > > these mental gimps). > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there was often > > something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, and I > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well, > > those were > > obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pretty > > soon. I > > suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep > > contact with, > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst yourselves, > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer to do... > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > >> From: NetMaster7@aol.com > >> > > >> >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone > >> needs > >> >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit around > >> and > >> >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone > >> outside > >> >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. > >> Really > >> >bad. > >> > > >> >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the > >> day (kept > >> >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my attempts > >> to > >> >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's > >> depressing. > >> > >> It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how many times > >> this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years. > >> > >> -- RTF > >> http://bounce.to/rtf > >> http://phonelosers.net > >> AIM - Rob T Firefly > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > >> Phonelosers mailing list > >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 19:13:24 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <14b.15c1e635.2ada5538@aol.com> Message-ID: <20021013181324.50546.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Hah! I'd have to delete like 98% of them! And yes, you're right, iy would be a total cop-out to quit, but it begs the question: what am I gaining by sticking around, vs. what am I losing by leaving? The way I see it now, nothing, and a whole lot of wasted time. --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/12/02 11:37:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > > > > I think I'm just going to quit this list. > > Bah, its really not that hard to delete the emails that aren't really any > good. By leaving you'll minimize chance for change. > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 13 21:21:47 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (linear !) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:21:47 -0700 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C272BB.7B6A2580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Never has there been a flamewar so mighty as "dog vs. cats." It is still = one of my most pride-filled moments on the list. "My name is linear. I have a dog." ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob T Firefly Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 7:55 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year= later C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it needs a good flamewar every now and then to stay vital. Who else remembers the many OS wars? = Or the infamous "dogs vs. cats?"Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer do= wnload : http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C272BB.7B6A2580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Never has ther= e been a flamewar so mighty as "dog vs. cats." It is still one of my most= pride-filled moments on the list.
 
"My name = is linear. I have a dog."
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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C272BB.7B6A2580-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 05:08:16 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:08:16 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <2.1.1-17877716-383-B-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> all you ever do is bitch Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a=20 > year later > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being= =20 > said in > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bunch= of > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I considere= d it > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary'= =20 > precisely > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lot o= f > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical think= ing > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to say= =20 > just to > be disagreeable. >=20 > --- arcmna@mail.softhome.net wrote: >>=20 >> What was the point of this post? oh wow! You can repeat what youve sai= d >> before AND even remain just as whiney(sp?) sounding! I personally hope= >> you do leave. To refute your cry-baby claims of nothing going on wi= th >> this list - worm has been posting an intelligent and insightful >> commentary to the article you posted. >> Colonel Panic wrote: >>=20 >> > From: Colonel Panic >> > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a= >> > year later >> > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:13:18 -0700 (PDT) >> > >> > It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much the= y >> > hate the >> > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day, >> > posting message >> > after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it.= =20 >> If they >> > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless=20 >> they are >> > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case wit= h >> > most of >> > these mental gimps). >> > >> > I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there=20 >> was often >> > something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, a= nd I >> > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well,= >> > those were >> > obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pret= ty >> > soon. I >> > suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep >> > contact with, >> > and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst=20 >> yourselves, >> > calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer= =20 >> to do... >> > >> > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> >> From: NetMaster7@aol.com >> >> > >> >> >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that som= eone >> >> needs >> >> >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit= =20 >> around >> >> and >> >> >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that every= one >> >> outside >> >> >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suc= k. >> >> Really >> >> >bad. >> >> > >> >> >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the= >> >> day (kept >> >> >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my= =20 >> attempts >> >> to >> >> >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's >> >> depressing. >> >> >> >> It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how=20 >> many times >> >> this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years.= >> >> >> >> -- RTF >> >> http://bounce.to/rtf >> >> http://phonelosers.net >> >> AIM - Rob T Firefly >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> >> >> >> Phonelosers mailing list >> >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehop= e.com >> > >> > >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >> > >> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; >> > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> > --Aleister Crowley >> > ___________________________________________________________ >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >> > Phonelosers mailing list >> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope= com >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>=20 >> Phonelosers mailing list >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 17:09:08 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:09:08 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later References: Message-ID: <007101c2739c$07273e60$ee92bd18@gio> From: linear ! > Never has there been a flamewar so mighty as "dog vs. cats." > It is still one of my most pride-filled moments on the list. > > "My name is linear. I have a dog." Definitely one of your crowning achievements. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:06:00 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:06:00 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <19c.a34a3d8.2adc5378@aol.com> --part1_19c.a34a3d8.2adc5378_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/13/02 2:15:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > what am I gaining by sticking around > you can sit here and listen to all of these great flame wars that pass by. > > leaving? > an emptier inbox. --part1_19c.a34a3d8.2adc5378_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/13/02 2:15:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teknopuck@yahoo.com writes:


what am I gaining by sticking around

you can sit here and listen to all of these great flame wars that pass by.


leaving?


an emptier inbox. --part1_19c.a34a3d8.2adc5378_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:20:01 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating In-Reply-To: <20021004065726.97015.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Admission to higher grades or to universities -- or even employment -- could be based > upon what students know. Schools or employers would not look at grade point averages, > rather they would judge students by their particular skills, by their ability to work in > teams, and by the set of modules that they have mastered. I think he flew away into a distant galaxy. Are they all going to change their systems because of his repetitive article? > Note that changing to modular education with mastery grading also means changing today's > system of lock-step education. Today, if students fail at some topic, when they are moved > to the next grade, they no longer have exposure to it, even if they wish to. In a modular > system, students could study the modules they need or that they are interested in, > regardless of grade level. They could also go to a library and learn stuff themselves. > In the end, the students possess a list of topics that they understand. Some will have > completed many modules, some just the minimum required. Some will have modules that > reflect a broad range of topics, some more narrow, but deeper knowledge. Instead of > arbitrary ranking through grade-point averages, each student is characterized by their > accomplishments. What about those who did not complete the minimum required? Oh, retarded people are not worth mentioning. > Restructuring the School System > In this essay, I focus upon changes to curriculum and instruction that would change the > emphasis in school systems from that of competition to cooperation, from arbitrary > grading on the curve to mastery assessment of a student's accomplishments. But these > changes are only part of the restructuring required of our educational systems. Many more > changes are needed. Is this a summary? > We need to get away from the lecture-centered method of teaching. We need to emphasize > "learning," not "teaching." Teaching is about the teacher. Learning is about the student. > The emphasis should be on doing, on activities: "learning by doing." Students rarely do anything at school. The most they usually accomplish is simulating the doings of something real. Mimicing is not doing. > Yes, depth of understanding should be encouraged, but this is best nourished when there > is true interest and excitement, which often means project-based instruction, where > teachers act as mentors and guides to the material. None of this is particularly new: > many others have advocated this form of education, starting with John Dewey in the early > 1900s. But changes in teaching can not take place without changes in the curriculum and > in the way we assess students. Is this his punchline, the "look even I copyed something myself" punchline? > We need to rethink the curriculum, for today, we try to cram everything we think the > student will ever need to know into their heads in a relatively short period. Instead, we > need to train curiosity, self-reliance, cooperative skills, and knowledge of how to learn > on their own, knowledge that will be of value for the 2/3 of their lives that remain > after the completion of formal schooling. ... So, why did you post this to the list again? From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:31:22 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021005091636.80144.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Manizing you mean. Your focus was on the story with the man. You only described that one in detail.=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > I just thought you'd all love to hear what a great womanizing bastard I a= m. >=20 > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > It makes one wonder when someone writes a whole 10 minutes worth of > > reading material only about how he is "not" gay. In fact, and not to be > > insulting here, but in all the truth, that spells out "denial." Or it > > could be your words running away from you also. ::shrug:: I'm not sayin= g > > you are gay. I am just saying that for some reason you WANT everyone to > > know that you are NOT as though it is a big deal, even on this discussi= on > > list.=20 > >=20 > > -the 3rd w0rm- > >=20 > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > >=20 > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I'm not gay, but nor am I a cheater, either. I have a steady girlfrie= nd now. I have > > had > > > more than enough of the 'juggling women' thing: cheating, and the who= le lot. In the > > times > > > when I was not intimately involved with a single woman in a close, pe= rsonal, sexually > > > active, girlfriend/boyfriend-type relationship, I certainly did 'play= the field,' so > > to > > > speak, and I must admit, I have been a bit of a 'player' at times. > > >=20 > > > Some of you more gentle, sensitive readers might want to stop reading= at this point > > and > > > just delete this message, because I, Tekno Finieous Puck, hereby begi= n my > > confessions: > > >=20 > > > I am not a stranger to the 'singles bar' scene (albeit an inner-city,= hardcore > > > punk-rock-type version of the singles bar--such establishments here i= n Chicago have > > been > > > known by names like, 'Smart Bar,''Club Dreamerz,''The Hound's > > Tooth,''EXIT,''Neo,''Lounge > > > Ax,''The G-Spot' and 'Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center,' wherein one is f= ree to 'git wit > > tha > > > honeyz,' and pick up girls/boys as often as one chooses. Of course, I= proceeded to > > 'sow > > > my wild oats,' as I 'dipped my spoon in the honey pot,' times too num= erous to > > mention. > > >=20 > > > I was lucky enough to have even had a couple girlfriends who were bis= exual and > > > adventuresome, thus enabling me to participate in a few so-called 'th= reesomes' and at > > > least one 'orgy.' Those situations may have involved multiple females= , but I was, on > > all > > > but one occasion, the only male present--and even in that one single = situation, my > > (male) > > > friend and I did not engage in any faggotry; we were interested only = in pleasing the > > > ladies. This situation occurred, strangely enough, on the evening of = the Chicago Gay > > > Pride Parade! I was hanging out with my bisexual girlfriend, who was = there to meet up > > > with some of her friends from high school. After the parade, we ended= up at this > > party at > > > a lesbian couples' apartment, where all the partiers, save for me and= one other > > > (straight) guy I had met about an hour earlier (who also happened to = be there with a > > > bisexual girlfriend) were either bisexual, or full-on lesbians. > > >=20 > > > I remember we were in the living room, reclining on this huge oval-sh= aped bed with > > tens > > > of various-sized pillows, which also served as their sofa(!). There w= as a joint going > > > around, and we were all stoned and watching a movie on the TV, a film= called 'Go > > Fish' > > > which was made by a local Chicago lesbo filmmaker (who, BTW, happened= to be my > > neighbor a > > > few years earlier--she lived in the coach-house behind my apartment, = while she was in > > the > > > process of editing that picture. She'd showed the unedited rushes to = my then roommate > > & > > > me over at her apartment once, while her angry, bitchy girlfriend sla= mmed things > > around > > > and made an embarrassing scene around the house). > > > Anyway this one girl across the room, sitting on the floor kept looki= ng and smiling > > at > > > me. The one guy who was there also looked at me, started grinning lik= e a lunatic, > > then > > > gave me the 'thumbs-up' sign. I busted out laughing! My girlfriend wa= s getting a > > backrub > > > from another old friend of hers, so I just joined in too, massaging m= y girlfriend, > > and > > > then starting on her friend. We 3 just traded off massages and before= I knew it, > > about 7 > > > of us, including the girl from across the room, were all semi-naked o= n the bed. It > > was > > > all good fun, as long as I just kept my eyes off the other guy--becau= se the very > > sight of > > > his naked ass made me go a big rubbery one! > > >=20 > > > The entire thing ended up being a totally isolated incident. About 3 = weeks afterward, > > my > > > girlfriend moved away to San Francisco (she'd been planning it since = long before we > > met), > > > and apart from a single visit I made to her (and her new boyfriend) a= bout a year > > later, I > > > haven't seen her again. We sometimes email each other, but not very o= ften anymore. > > Later > > > on, several times when I was driving the taxi, I ran into some of the= women I 'met' > > that > > > night. It was usually pretty awkward, but we kinda broke the ice by j= oking around > > like > > > old friends. One of the girls, I have seen many times since--and she = mentions it > > almost > > > every time we meet (ugh!). Once I picked up a large group of her frie= nds and her in > > my > > > taxi from a local nightclub called Crobar. She got in and said, reall= y loudly, > > (speaking > > > to me, but obviously for the sole benefit of all her friends) "Hey! -= ----! I know > > you! I > > > fucked you once! We had that big orgy! Remember? How have you been? Y= ou still fucking > > > five, six girls at once?" It was so embarrassing. There were some ver= y attractive > > women > > > in the car with her, who I wouldn't mind getting to know, since at th= e time I had > > been > > > 'unoccupied.' > > >=20 > > > This has to be about the wildest sexual thing I have ever taken part = in, involving > > > several people at the same time who I didn't even know at all. At lea= st I wore > > condoms > > > for the entire occasion! I have not even told my current girlfriend a= bout this event, > > > because I know she'd freak out. There was another bisexual girlfriend= I'd had prior > > to > > > this occurrence, and we had had a few threesomes, but it ended up tea= ring our > > > relationship apart. We had differing expectations and needs in the re= lationship, and > > I > > > knew she was cheating on me behind my back, so I did the same. I gues= s neither of us > > were > > > ready to be monogamous at the time. > > >=20 > > > For several years now I have been what they call a 'serial monogamist= ,' going from > > > monogamous relationship to monogamous relationship, with periods of '= playing the > > field' > > > and occasional one-nighters in between. > > >=20 > > > So that's me. I have been 100% honest here, and as you can see I am n= ot gay. I have > > been > > > a bit sleazy at times, I admit, but I am not a queer. I like the way = women are > > shaped, > > > and the way they behave too much. Men are sexually disgusting to me. = They're fine for > > > friends or drinking buddies, whatever, but for sex? Uuunggh! Yuck. > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > What are you, some kind of mormon or something? > > > >=20 > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > > > Yeah well i have 800 gazillion live in girlfriends, clearly i am = far more > > > > > heterosexual than you, > > > > > maybe it's time to come out of the closet gay-boy! > > > > >=20 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel Pani= c > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM > > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply b= ecause he's > > > > > gay? I think > > > > > a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > >=20 > > > > > Homophobia =3D repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a= guilt-ridden > > > > > rage from > > > > > within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy = was an > > > > > extreme example > > > > > of this. > > > > >=20 > > > > > And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a= few > > > > > friends who happen > > > > > to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am= frankly > > > > > disgusted by > > > > > the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity = towards > > > > > fags in general, > > > > > any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal o= r listen to > > > > > Kenny G. > > > > >=20 > > > > > --- arcmna wrote: > > > > > > The new leaders have the world have declared you gay, seeing th= at > > > > > > you dont like chicks. That invalidates everything you have to s= ay, > > > > > > dickhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Mr Peanut > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:00 PM > > > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I "concour" that you shut the fuck up > > > > > > >I declare we are the new leaders of the world, who else concou= rs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > >From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > > > > >[mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of Colonel P= anic > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:19 PM > > > > > > >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Why then, I cast a pox upon the house of Firefly, as well! > > > > > > > > >=20 > =3D=3D=3D message truncated =3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:48:44 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: <20021005192525.96995.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: He's only 11, leave him alone. You don't have to pseudo-strut by quoting out specific words from what you wrote while having in mind that those have to be the words that puzzled poor mrpeanut.=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Huh? What big words did I use in my last post? >=20 > Are you referring to the word, "facetious?" Or perhaps "garrulous"? Wow. = I never > considered those to be such big words, nor are they particularly uncommon= or esoteric-- >=20 > Maybe you were referring to my lexicon in general? I guess it must come f= rom reading a > lot. I read every day--from the news to non-fiction computer technical ma= nuals or media > studies books. I always have at least 2 or 3 books going at any one time-= -and that's the > reading I do outside what I'm assigned weekly for school classes. As a br= eak from all > that dry stuff, I'll often (usually during the spring, summer or Christma= s breaks) pick > up an occasional novel, humor collection or short story anthology. And th= at's not even to > mention all the comics and graphic novels! I guess I'm a bookworm as well= as a computer > geek. >=20 > So naturally, I was unaware that using big words is supposed to be 'cool.= ' Back when I > was in grammar school (the last time I seriously concerned myself with ap= pearing "cool") > people who used big words and had an extensive vocabulary were regarded a= s decidedly > "un-cool." My cynical sense of humor and contempt for the teachers and sc= hool hierarchy > was the only thing that kept me from getting picked on and beat up back i= n those days. >=20 > --- Mr Peanut wrote: > > Do you use big words to sound cool? > > > > > >Dude, I think you are taking that last post of mine waaaay too serious= ly. > > > > > >I was being facetious about most of it. > > > > > >The reason I defined 'discussion list' in my own excessively garrulous= =20 > > >style is because > > >'Penis Saw' (or whatever his nick is supposed to mean) inferred that I= =20 > > >don't know what > > >one is. He also, in his infinite wisdom, warned me that I was butting = in on=20 > > >a post > > >directed to someone else, and I intended to subtly imply that when one= =20 > > >posts to a list > > >like this, a DISCUSSION LIST, the post goes to EVERYBODY, so anyone ca= n=20 > > >reply to it. > > >Furthermore, Mr. 'Python Suppository' seems to be under the impression= that=20 > > >'discussion > > >list' means "DIS CUSSIN' LIST" --and that he's supposed to vulgarly in= sult=20 > > >and swear at > > >everything everybody posts. There's a reason they call it 'flaming' --= the=20 > > >person posting > > >with that type of attitude sounds like a bitchy fag or a sour old woma= n. > > > > > >The persona I have adopted is just fun to write in. I can answer just = about=20 > > >any post, and > > >be rude if I like, fuck with people, or not. And I like to share ideas= ,=20 > > >highbrow, and > > >lowbrow ones alike, so I feel it sorta fits to act like the classic=20 > > >obnoxious, > > >know-it-all ass, since so many others around here lately behave like o= ther=20 > > >varieties of > > >ass--mostly like obnoxious adolescents (yes, you're right, when I say= =20 > > >'lately' I mean > > >about a year or so now, pretty much since YahooGroups nixed the list a= nd=20 > > >the last of the > > >old list members disappeared--save for a precious few--like RTF, Linea= r,=20 > > >Nevarmore, et > > >al. -- I have been posting on the PLA list since like 1998-99.) Ask RB= CP.=20 > > >The list used > > >to be different. People would actually TALK about things. Discuss idea= s.=20 > > >Cooperate on > > >projects together. It was actually fun! If somebody posted with a prob= lem,=20 > > >they'd get a > > >variety of answers and questions in the spirit of helping. Not like n= ow,=20 > > >where you get a > > >few people reiterating the same old post and calling them an idiot for= =20 > > >asking for help. > > >Of course back then there were a few lame, bad-tempered idiots, but no= body=20 > > >paid attention > > >to them. > > > > > >Even though the attitude I often cop around here (the self-righteous= =20 > > >know-it-all who > > >corrects everybody and always complains about stupidity) is admittedly= a=20 > > >contrived, > > >self-conscious persona, I DO honestly regret that when I try to share = ideas=20 > > >and other > > >stuff with the list, the most vocal people are a bunch of=20 > > >lowest-common-denominators who > > >nitpick with a ridiculous overabundance of vitriol over the tiniest=20 > > >details. I guess they > > >must feel that approach will make them appear wickedly witty and=20 > > >dangerously intelligent. > > >In reality, they just look like a bunch of dumb kids who are acting me= an to=20 > > >cover up how > > >unimaginative and stupid they really are. It is the most common trick = on=20 > > >the elementary > > >school playground. Who knows--if they were ever to voice an idea, some= body=20 > > >might think it > > >is stupid, and they will reveal to the world their lack of 'ph33rsum h= ax0r=20 > > >skills!' > > > > > >When in reality, that shit doesn't matter at all. Bulllshit lousy atti= tudes=20 > > >are trite and > > >boring, overdone and limited. And I don't find them fun anymore. So I = will=20 > > >ignore. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > FYI: A discussion list (or email forum, whatever) is an email-bas= ed=20 > > >discussion forum > > > > > whereby a message sent to the list's email address is automatical= ly=20 > > >forwarded to > > > > everyone > > > > > else on the list. In such a forum, everyone has the right to post= =20 > > >whatever and > > > > whenever > > > > > one likes, and any message sent to the list address will be recei= ved=20 > > >by EVERYONE > > > > (unless > > > > > the list is moderated or filtered). The application server we are= =20 > > >posting to and > > > > reading > > > > > messages from whenever we send or receive email to/from=20 > > >'Phonelosers@wearehope.com' > > > > is > > > > > called a discussion list. 'Majordomo' is a popular program of thi= s=20 > > >sort, which runs > > > > on > > > > > *nix/Linux servers. > > > > > > > > > > In such an open forum, anyone can post a message to anyone else, = and=20 > > >anyone can reply > > > > to > > > > > any message--e.g. an OPEN forum. > > > > > > > > Your expository style frightens me greatly. It reminds me of a grap= hics > > > > design book I once had to read where I decided to just pick up a pe= n and > > > > cross out all the unnecessary sentences. After 2/3rds of a couple p= ages > > > > was gone, I still felt like my mind was learning about as much as i= t=20 > > >would > > > > be at an assembly line. > > > > > > > > In particular, I'm addressing your digression. Your overall intent = in=20 > > >this > > > > post seems to have been to (and I paused thinking here for a minute= ) > > > > perhaps say that we are allowed freedom of speech on the list, and = you > > > > have no interest to engage in insignificant battles of insignifican= ce=20 > > >with > > > > such insignificant little figures as pirate soap and probably mrpea= nut. > > > > Now, considering this what you were trying to convey, for what purp= ose=20 > > >did > > > > you tell us that "majordomo" is a popular e-mail forum program? Why > > > > exactly did you technically define a discussion list in a whole=20 > > >paragraph? > > > > Your last sentence could have done the job by itself, it is the onl= y=20 > > >part > > > > of text that I see above that actually pertained to what I believe = you > > > > were trying to say. Unless, of course, your intent was to educate u= s on > > > > the technical attributes of a list. > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, if one wishes to cop a superior, self-important and= =20 > > >condescending > > > > persona, > > > > > that is one's own prerogative. Such is the persona I have elected= to=20 > > >adopt, as long > > > > as > > > > > > > > That is very wonderful. Could you please explain the reasons of why= you > > > > elected this persona in particular? It could never have been to cou= nter > > > > the persona you described in your college class earlier, where you = go to > > > > the length of "silently" apologizing to a teacher, and pretending t= hat=20 > > >you > > > > were paying attention to the poor female's heart-filled speech abou= t > > > > whatever. Regarding that incident, generally when a person is speak= ing=20 > > >and > > > > someone during that speech is reminded of a TV show and laughs abou= t it, > > > > it would really make the speaker feel wonderful about how much atte= ntion > > > > he or she is soaking up from his or her listeners. (Although if the= =20 > > >speech > > > > was boring I would feel no need to pretend that it wasn't.) > > > > > > > > > there is no more interesting conversation going on around here, a= nd=20 > > >others around > > > > here > > > > > prefer to behave in a similarly childish fashion. My banter is no= =20 > > >better and no worse > > > > > than any other promulgated by the other petty nitpickers who have= come=20 > > >to inhabit > > > > this > > > > > > > > The people I believe you are referring to I have actually seen on t= he=20 > > >list > > > > for at least a year. Are you using an average-life-spanning human's > > > > timescale, or the earth's timescale to make this judgement? > > > > > > > > > list of late, so I will continue using it for as long as I so des= ire.=20 > > >When somebody > > > > comes > > > > > around who wishes to discuss mattersw and share ideas like an=20 > > >intelligent adult, then > > > > I > > > > > will respond in kind. But until then... > > > > > > > > If I didn't know any better, it would sound to me like you are prop= osing > > > > that we rid ourselves of humor and establish a more corporate "it's= all > > > > business" approach. Perhaps you should go to a theatre. > > > > > > > > > I would rather not have to constantly defend myself against your = (and=20 > > >your > > > > sycophantic > > > > > stooges') constant stream of harpy-like chatter, debating and nig= gling=20 > > >over every > > > > minute > > > > > detail of everything I say. I would rather you just accept my=20 > > >intellectual > > > > superiority > > > > > and just keep your bullshit to yourself. > > > > > > > > That was nice. A big wall of "intelligent adult" words, finally com= ing=20 > > >to > > > > a shatter and from it emerging a frustrated prophanity. These sycop= antic > > > > stooges must really be getting on your nerves of steel today. You j= ust > > > > can't take it anymore, so intensely overwhelming is their unsettlin= g and > > > > boisterous approach to you on the list. > > > > > > > > > I, TeknoPuck, from this point forward, will refuse to engage any = petty=20 > >=20 > =3D=3D=3D message truncated =3D=3D=3D >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:49:06 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Confessions In-Reply-To: <20021005194540.99050.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wait... You have a sense of humor?=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > It's a JOKE!!! Come on! Somebody PLEASE understand my sarcasm! >=20 > --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/5/02 2:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 > > teknopuck@yahoo.com writes: > >=20 > >=20 > > > See? You stole the gum, and didn't even get to enjoy it. Crime doesn'= t pay,=20 > > > now does it? > > >=20 > > > BTW, did you ever tell your dad about it? Does he know his dog ate gu= m? Or=20 > > > that his son > > > was a petty thief? Don't wait until he's on his deathbed to tell him.= =2E. > > > That would be cruel, and, um, just wrong. > >=20 > > omfg. > >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:50:20 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You seek penises from postal workers? -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Mr Peanut wrote: > > > You have no dick. > What the hell was that, I expect better of a postal worker. > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > From: Colonel Panic > > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > >Dude, the word is 'concur,' not 'conour,' and it means, 'agree.' > > > > > > >The word was concour, not conour. It doesn't just mean "agree", so you're > >wrong on that also. > > > > > > > >To concur means that you agree with what the guy said before. To 'concur > >that he shut the > > >fuck up' makes absolutely no sense. Being mean and obnoxious to people > >for no reason at > > >all is not funny, nor is it entertaining, nor clever, nor charming nor > >compelling. > > > >Do you know either of them? do you know if they know each other or have > >spent time talking? No > >you don't. So making an assumption that he is being obnoxious to a person > >for no reason just > >makes you look like an ass who doesn't have any facts but still feels the > >need to "butt" in on > >a message that wasn't directed towards him. > > > > >It > > >just makes one appear to be a small-minded, pointlessly aggressive moron. > >Many people > > >here don't seem to understand that, and I now predict they are all going > >to flame, argue > > >with, and attack me for saying it. > > > > > > >Scream flame all you want, I see you still havn't found out what a > >discussion list is. > >Everytime someone counters something you say you scream flame or attack, > >sounds like something > >a "small-minded moron" would do. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 18:57:37 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <200210080240.g982e6632196@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: Don't tell him not to tell him what to do. And don't reply to me telling me not to tell you not to tell him not to tell him what to do. -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, pyro sawp wrote: > Don't tell him what to do > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > > From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com > > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:29:08 EDT > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > >You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the WTC" > >and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving advice > >on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the subject > >then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do whatever > >the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. Whether > >you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when you > >tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response is > >"Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not > >interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 20:48:07 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:48:07 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210141847.g9EIlQi00933@smtp2.ixpres.com> Don't tell me not to reply telling you not to tell me not to tell you what to do. And don't tell me not to tell him not to tell him what to do, because i'll tell him not to tell him not what to do wether you tell me not to tell him not to tell him what to do. > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:57:37 -0400 (EDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Don't tell him not to tell him what to do. And don't reply to me telling >me not to tell you not to tell him not to tell him what to do. > >-the 3rd w0rm- > >plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers >http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 14 20:19:23 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:19:23 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later References: <200210141847.g9EIlQi00933@smtp2.ixpres.com> Message-ID: <00a101c273b6$9aa2d540$ee92bd18@gio> Great. My head just exploded. Gee, thanks guys. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: "pyro sawp" > Don't tell me not to reply telling you not to tell me not to tell you what to do. And don't > tell me not to tell him not to tell him what to do, because i'll tell him not to tell him not > what to do wether you tell me not to tell him not to tell him what to do. > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > > From: > > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:57:37 -0400 (EDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >Don't tell him not to tell him what to do. And don't reply to me telling > >me not to tell you not to tell him not to tell him what to do. > > > >-the 3rd w0rm- > > > >plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > >http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 15 02:47:32 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Ich bin so wild) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021013033305.21770.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021015014732.12789.qmail@web20422.mail.yahoo.com> --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > redeeming qualities anymore, > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have people > around like ZehrWang, > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, GoldenEye, et For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try to guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting anything anyone would want to read, under any circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > al? You could always count > on some good reading with those folks around, if it > was sometimes a bit > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > list. I have much better > things to do with my time and better people to spend > it with. Don't worry RTF, > I'll still email you and a few others around here > whenever I find something > interesting to say. > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it > needs a good flamewar > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > remembers the many OS wars? Or > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > whine about how much they hate > > the > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, > day after day, posting > > message > > > after message about how much they hate the list > and everyone on it. If > > they > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > just leave? --Unless they are > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > suspect is the case with most > > of > > > these mental gimps). > > > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really miss > the days when there was > > often > > > something funny and/or interesting going on on > the PLA-Discussion, and I > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the > people on it. Well, those > > were > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will be > leaving this list pretty > > soon. I > > > suppose I could just personally email those of > you I wish to keep contact > > with, > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > yammering away amongst > > yourselves, > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > that's what you prefer to > > do... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > ===== > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister > Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at > http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 02:49:34 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:49:34 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: Do you realize the more you say how not gay you are, the more gay you sound? > >Um, you go right ahead. I am fully satisfied just being hetero. But thanks, >I am >flattered (I guess). > >--- arcmna wrote: > > mmmm, maybe panic would just like to have a big gay orgy so we can > > get all these repressed-homosexual feelings out in the open. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:21 AM > > To: phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > From: Colonel Panic > > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because > > he's gay? I think > > >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > > > > I see we have the human rights activist here with a stick up his ass who > > doesn't understand a > > joke. (now lets hear your speech about making fun of gay people isn't >funny > > and how it breeds hate) > > > > > > > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a > > guilt-ridden rage from > > >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > > extreme example > > >of this. > > > > "ho·mo·pho·bi·a Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-) > > n. > > 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. > > 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. " > > > > Saying everyone who is homophobic has repressed homosexual urges just >shows > > how moronic you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > friends who happen > > >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am >frankly > > disgusted by > > >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity >towards > > fags in general, > > >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or >listen > > to Kenny G. > > > > > > > You sure do seem to use the term "fag" quite liberally, you also say >that > > the thought of having > > sex with another male disgusts you. Which means your gay (supposed) >friends > > disgust you. > > Sounds like your homophobic, sounds like you're really a homosexual with > > repressed urges who > > likes to suck cock in alleys anonymously. Fags in the shower! > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >http://sbc.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 06:42:13 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <2.1.1-17877716-383-B-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> Message-ID: <20021016054213.85569.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Not true. Sometimes I post messages, or pass along things I find interesting, etc. Usually, those posts are met with bitchy disagreeable nonsense. And that is what I was bitching. --- arcmna@mail.softhome.net wrote: > all you ever do is bitch > > Colonel Panic wrote: > > > From: Colonel Panic > > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a > > year later > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being > > said in > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bunch of > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I considered it > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary' > > precisely > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lot of > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical thinking > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to say > > just to > > be disagreeable. > > > > --- arcmna@mail.softhome.net wrote: > >> > >> What was the point of this post? oh wow! You can repeat what youve said > >> before AND even remain just as whiney(sp?) sounding! I personally hope > >> you do leave. To refute your cry-baby claims of nothing going on with > >> this list - worm has been posting an intelligent and insightful > >> commentary to the article you posted. > >> Colonel Panic wrote: > >> > >> > From: Colonel Panic > >> > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a > >> > year later > >> > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:13:18 -0700 (PDT) > >> > > >> > It always confuses me when people bitch and whine about how much they > >> > hate the > >> > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, day after day, > >> > posting message > >> > after message about how much they hate the list and everyone on it. > >> If they > >> > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would just leave? --Unless > >> they are > >> > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I suspect is the case with > >> > most of > >> > these mental gimps). > >> > > >> > I know I've said it before, but I really miss the days when there > >> was often > >> > something funny and/or interesting going on on the PLA-Discussion, and I > >> > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the people on it. Well, > >> > those were > >> > obviously different times. I reckon I will be leaving this list pretty > >> > soon. I > >> > suppose I could just personally email those of you I wish to keep > >> > contact with, > >> > and the rest can go screw... and keep on yammering away amongst > >> yourselves, > >> > calling each other homosexuals and such, if that's what you prefer > >> to do... > >> > > >> > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > >> >> From: NetMaster7@aol.com > >> >> > > >> >> >And then there's the subtle irony inherent in the concept that someone > >> >> needs > >> >> >"allies" on a mailing list, especially one full of people who sit > >> around > >> >> and > >> >> >call each other ignorant, all oblivious to the one fact that everyone > >> >> outside > >> >> >of your combined basements can see....The vast majority of you suck. > >> >> Really > >> >> >bad. > >> >> > > >> >> >On one hand, the fact that this old AOL address I had back in the > >> >> day (kept > >> >> >around for kicks) is still getting e-mail from his list after my > >> attempts > >> >> to > >> >> >leave when I still used AOL is amusing. On the other hand, it's > >> >> depressing. > >> >> > >> >> It couldn't have been too far back in the day, considering how > >> many times > >> >> this list got zapped and restarted over the past couple of years. > >> >> > >> >> -- RTF > >> >> http://bounce.to/rtf > >> >> http://phonelosers.net > >> >> AIM - Rob T Firefly > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >> >> > >> >> Phonelosers mailing list > >> >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> >> > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >> > > >> > > >> > ===== > >> > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >> > > >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >> > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > >> > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > >> > --Aleister Crowley > >> > ___________________________________________________________ > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > >> > http://faith.yahoo.com > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > > >> > Phonelosers mailing list > >> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehopecom > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > >> Phonelosers mailing list > >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 06:50:23 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021016055023.15128.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> You tell him! --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > Don't tell him not to tell him what to do. And don't reply to me telling > me not to tell you not to tell him not to tell him what to do. > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, pyro sawp wrote: > > > Don't tell him what to do > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year > later > > > From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com > > > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:29:08 EDT > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > >You're a real hypocrite. You bitch and tell people to forget about "the > WTC" > > >and saying that it should be forgotten about. Therefore you're giving > advice > > >on how I should view the current events. Maybe YOU should drop the > subject > > >then. Then you go on to say "Don't tell me what to do." I'll do whatever > > > >the fuck I feel like doing, and I'm obviously not listening to you. > Whether > > >you listen to me is one thing, but at least practice what you preach when > you > > >tell me "not to tell you what do to." Your only halfway decent response > is > > >"Don't tell me what do to." It's getting old, and I'm obviously not > > >interested. Are you twelve, or just incompetant? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 07:04:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021016060436.89890.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> To a prepubescent like yourself, I can see how it might seem that way. By the time you get a few years older, you'll understand how juvenile and stupid it really is to go around calling people gay all the time. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > Do you realize the more you say how not gay you are, the more gay you sound? > > > >Um, you go right ahead. I am fully satisfied just being hetero. But thanks, > >I am > >flattered (I guess). > > > >--- arcmna wrote: > > > mmmm, maybe panic would just like to have a big gay orgy so we can > > > get all these repressed-homosexual feelings out in the open. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com > > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp > > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:21 AM > > > To: phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > > > > From: Colonel Panic > > > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) > > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply because > > > he's gay? I think > > > >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... > > > > > > > > > > I see we have the human rights activist here with a stick up his ass who > > > doesn't understand a > > > joke. (now lets hear your speech about making fun of gay people isn't > >funny > > > and how it breeds hate) > > > > > > > > > > >Homophobia = repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a > > > guilt-ridden rage from > > > >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy was an > > > extreme example > > > >of this. > > > > > > "ho·mo·pho·bi·a Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-) > > > n. > > > 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. > > > 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. " > > > > > > Saying everyone who is homophobic has repressed homosexual urges just > >shows > > > how moronic you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a few > > > friends who happen > > > >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am > >frankly > > > disgusted by > > > >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity > >towards > > > fags in general, > > > >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal or > >listen > > > to Kenny G. > > > > > > > > > > You sure do seem to use the term "fag" quite liberally, you also say > >that > > > the thought of having > > > sex with another male disgusts you. Which means your gay (supposed) > >friends > > > disgust you. > > > Sounds like your homophobic, sounds like you're really a homosexual with > > > repressed urges who > > > likes to suck cock in alleys anonymously. 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Message-ID: <200210160616.g9G6Fsk26705@smtp2.ixpres.com> You're a gay. > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:04:36 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >To a prepubescent like yourself, I can see how it might seem that way. By the >time you get a few years older, you'll understand how juvenile and stupid it >really is to go around calling people gay all the time. > From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 14:30:14 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 09:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021013181023.96256.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being said in > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bunch of > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I considered it > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary' precisely > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lot of > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical thinking > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to say just to > be disagreeable. Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term "nit-pick" a lot. Lovely. The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless to say, I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that his point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't expect more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree with you again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.) Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being posted, and I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I spent an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake of argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For the sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head into your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 18:52:56 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021015014732.12789.qmail@web20422.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Ich bin so wild wrote: > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > > redeeming qualities anymore, > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have people > > around like ZehrWang, > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, GoldenEye, et > > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try to > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > anything anyone would want to read, under any > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. I didn't witness all of the listed people post, but I can try to shoot off a few. You're too nice to be Hevnsent, not wacky enough to be Nawleed, and not 007 enough to be GE. Unless you're a reformed, new man. But you're still not Nawleed. He will never reform. NEVER!!! From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 19:36:52 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:36:52 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST Message-ID: In my opinion, this list has too much bitching and not enough flaming. The bickering isnt funny and barely makes a point. Its time we stop "nit-picking" and start picking at flaws until someone is brought to tears. For posting I get an intial 10 points. Yes there is a point scale and no it does not make sense or have a point. 10 points to the first flamer to this. Thats right, whos going to be the first flamer to come out? _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 19:56:28 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (linear !) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:56:28 +0000 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST Message-ID: SHUTUP, BITCH! linear http://phonelosers.net/linear AIM: itslinear Y!: the_linear ICQ: 42604993 MSN: punkrocknothing >From: "Mr Peanut" >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST >Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:36:52 -0400 > >In my opinion, this list has too much bitching and not enough flaming. The >bickering isnt funny and barely makes a point. >Its time we stop "nit-picking" and start picking at flaws until someone is >brought to tears. For posting I get an intial 10 points. Yes there is a >point scale and no it does not make sense or have a point. 10 points to the >first flamer to this. Thats right, whos going to be the first flamer to >come out? _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 21:43:49 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:43:49 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST Message-ID: That was a fucking terrible burn. You didnt earn your 10 points. I now have 20 and pussy here has 10. All you other fuckers can suck cock, 0 points way to fucking go. Losers, all of you! Im so much better than most of you. >SHUTUP, BITCH! > > > >linear >http://phonelosers.net/linear >AIM: itslinear >Y!: the_linear >ICQ: 42604993 >MSN: punkrocknothing > > >>From: "Mr Peanut" >>Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST >>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:36:52 -0400 >> >>In my opinion, this list has too much bitching and not enough flaming. The >>bickering isnt funny and barely makes a point. >>Its time we stop "nit-picking" and start picking at flaws until someone is >>brought to tears. For posting I get an intial 10 points. Yes there is a >>point scale and no it does not make sense or have a point. 10 points to >>the first flamer to this. Thats right, whos going to be the first flamer >>to come out? > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 21:50:22 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (linear !) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:50:22 -0700 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2751A.F8C5B060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm such a horrible failure! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mr Peanut Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:49 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] LiST That was a fucking terrible burn. You didnt earn your 10 points. I now have 20 and pussy here has 10. All you other fuckers can suck cock, 0 points way to fucking go. Losers, all of you! Im so much better than most of you. >SHUTUP, BITCH! > > > >linear >http://phonelosers.net/linear >AIM: itslinear >Y!: the_linear >ICQ: 42604993 >MSN: punkrocknothing > > >>From: "Mr Peanut" >>Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST >>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:36:52 -0400 >> >>In my opinion, this list has too much bitching and not enough flaming. = The =20 >>bickering isnt funny and barely makes a point. >>Its time we stop "nit-picking" and start picking at flaws until someone= is =20 >>brought to tears. For posting I get an intial 10 points. Yes there is a= =20 >>point scale and no it does not make sense or have a point. 10 points to= =20 >>the first flamer to this. Thats right, whos going to be the first flame= r =20 >>to come out? > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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= That was a fucking terrible burn.
You didnt earn your 10 points.
I = now have 20 and pussy here has 10.
All you other fuckers can suck cock= , 0 points way to fucking go.
Losers, all of you! Im so much better th= an most of you.
>SHUTUP, BITCH!
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>>Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 = 14:36:52 -0400
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>>In my opinion, this list has too mu= ch bitching and not enough flaming. The
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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2751A.F8C5B060-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 21:58:09 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Brad Carter) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021016205809.9159.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> --- linear ! wrote: > I'm such a horrible failure! Does he get points for flaming himself? ===== My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 22:19:47 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:19:47 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST Message-ID: Actually without reason he loses points, once again at 0. Since those points would go to waste anyway im going to take them. Thats right you silly bastards, ive got 30 to your combined 0. > >--- linear ! wrote: > > I'm such a horrible failure! > >Does he get points for flaming himself? > > >===== >My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ >Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 22:21:25 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (linear !) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:21:25 -0700 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2751F.4F71F6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i never had 10 points, i was always at zero. so if you take away my point= s and add them to yours, you'd still have 20. 20 + 0 =3D 20, smart guy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mr Peanut Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:20 PM To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] LiST Actually without reason he loses points, once again at 0. Since those poi= nts =20 would go to waste anyway im going to take them. Thats right you silly =20 bastards, ive got 30 to your combined 0. > >--- linear ! wrote: > > I'm such a horrible failure! > >Does he get points for flaming himself? > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ >Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >http://faith.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. =20 http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp _______________________________________________ Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com Phonelosers mailing list Phonelosers@wearehope.com http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.comG= et more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.c= om ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2751F.4F71F6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Actually without reason he los= es points, once again at 0. Since those points
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------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2751F.4F71F6E0-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 16 23:44:28 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:44:28 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] LiST References: <20021016205809.9159.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004701c27565$95fb0d40$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Brad Carter" > --- linear ! wrote: > > I'm such a horrible failure! > > Does he get points for flaming himself? He'll go blind, doing that. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 17 00:33:51 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:33:51 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating Message-ID: <2.1.1-1633670-371-B-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> haha colonel panic is dumb worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > From: > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Don Norman--In Defense of Cheating > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:20:01 -0400 (EDT) > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > >> Admission to higher grades or to universities -- or even employment >> -- could be based >> upon what students know. Schools or employers would not look at grade >> point averages, >> rather they would judge students by their particular skills, by their >> ability to work in >> teams, and by the set of modules that they have mastered. > > I think he flew away into a distant galaxy. > Are they all going to change their systems because of his repetitive > article? > >> Note that changing to modular education with mastery grading also >> means changing today's >> system of lock-step education. Today, if students fail at some topic, >> when they are moved >> to the next grade, they no longer have exposure to it, even if they >> wish to. In a modular >> system, students could study the modules they need or that they are >> interested in, >> regardless of grade level. > > They could also go to a library and learn stuff themselves. > >> In the end, the students possess a list of topics that they >> understand. Some will have >> completed many modules, some just the minimum required. Some will >> have modules that >> reflect a broad range of topics, some more narrow, but deeper >> knowledge. Instead of >> arbitrary ranking through grade-point averages, each student is >> characterized by their >> accomplishments. > > What about those who did not complete the minimum required? Oh, retarded > people are not worth mentioning. > >> Restructuring the School System >> In this essay, I focus upon changes to curriculum and instruction >> that would change the >> emphasis in school systems from that of competition to cooperation, >> from arbitrary >> grading on the curve to mastery assessment of a student's >> accomplishments. But these >> changes are only part of the restructuring required of our >> educational systems. Many more >> changes are needed. > > Is this a summary? > >> We need to get away from the lecture-centered method of teaching. We >> need to emphasize >> "learning," not "teaching." Teaching is about the teacher. Learning >> is about the student. >> The emphasis should be on doing, on activities: "learning by doing." > > Students rarely do anything at school. The most they usually accomplish is > simulating the doings of something real. Mimicing is not doing. > >> Yes, depth of understanding should be encouraged, but this is best >> nourished when there >> is true interest and excitement, which often means project-based >> instruction, where >> teachers act as mentors and guides to the material. None of this is >> particularly new: >> many others have advocated this form of education, starting with John >> Dewey in the early >> 1900s. But changes in teaching can not take place without changes in >> the curriculum and >> in the way we assess students. > > Is this his punchline, the "look even I copyed something myself" > punchline? > >> We need to rethink the curriculum, for today, we try to cram >> everything we think the >> student will ever need to know into their heads in a relatively short >> period. Instead, we >> need to train curiosity, self-reliance, cooperative skills, and >> knowledge of how to learn >> on their own, knowledge that will be of value for the 2/3 of their >> lives that remain >> after the completion of formal schooling. > > ... > > So, why did you post this to the list again? > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 17 01:50:06 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:50:06 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! Message-ID: <2.1.1-1636889-371-D-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> hahaha you are so gay Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:04:36 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > To a prepubescent like yourself, I can see how it might seem that=20 > way. By the > time you get a few years older, you'll understand how juvenile and stup= id it > really is to go around calling people gay all the time. >=20 > --- Mr Peanut wrote: >> Do you realize the more you say how not gay you are, the more gay you= =20 >> sound? >> > >> >Um, you go right ahead. I am fully satisfied just being hetero. But= =20 >> thanks, >> >I am >> >flattered (I guess). >> > >> >--- arcmna wrote: >> > > mmmm, maybe panic would just like to have a big gay orgy so we can= >> > > get all these repressed-homosexual feelings out in the open. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com >> > > [mailto:Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com]On Behalf Of pyro sawp >> > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:21 AM >> > > To: phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >Subject: RE: [PLA_UPL] UPL Issue 28 is released! >> > > > From: Colonel Panic >> > > > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT) >> > > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > > >> > > >Wait a minute, everything he has to say is 'invalidated' simply= =20 >> because >> > > he's gay? I think >> > > >a second person here is insecure with his own sexuality... >> > > > >> > > >> > > I see we have the human rights activist here with a stick up his= =20 >> ass who >> > > doesn't understand a >> > > joke. (now lets hear your speech about making fun of gay people is= n't >> >funny >> > > and how it breeds hate) >> > > >> > > > >> > > >Homophobia =3D repressed homosexual urges, finally resulting in a= >> > > guilt-ridden rage from >> > > >within, directed outward at all 'out of the closet' queers. Gacy= =20 >> was an >> > > extreme example >> > > >of this. >> > > >> > > "ho=B7mo=B7pho=B7bi=B7a Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-) >> > > n. >> > > 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. >> > > 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. " >> > > >> > > Saying everyone who is homophobic has repressed homosexual urges j= ust >> >shows >> > > how moronic you are. >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >And no, I'm not gay. I have a beautiful, live-in girlfriend and a= few >> > > friends who happen >> > > >to be gay, but have never had a homosexual encounter myself. I am= >> >frankly >> > > disgusted by >> > > >the thought of sex with another male, but I don't bear animosity= >> >towards >> > > fags in general, >> > > >any more than I hate people who like to eat factory-farmed veal o= r >> >listen >> > > to Kenny G. >> > > > >> > > >> > > You sure do seem to use the term "fag" quite liberally, you also s= ay >> >that >> > > the thought of having >> > > sex with another male disgusts you. Which means your gay (supposed= ) >> >friends >> > > disgust you. >> > > Sounds like your homophobic, sounds like you're really a=20 >> homosexual with >> > > repressed urges who >> > > likes to suck cock in alleys anonymously. Fags in the shower! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> > > >> > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >=20 >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> > > >> > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >=20 >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >> > >> > >> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >--=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >> > >> >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; >> > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> > --Aleister Crowley >> >___________________________________________________________ >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do you Yahoo!? >> >New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! >> >http://sbc.yahoo.com >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >> >Phonelosers mailing list >> >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.= com >>=20 >>=20 >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. >> http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>=20 >> Phonelosers mailing list >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 17 09:32:35 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 00:32:35 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] 12:31AM - The silly and the boring. Message-ID: <200210170731.g9H7Vok12695@smtp2.ixpres.com> JesusChristsDog: alm heiper. aLm heiper: jesuschristsdog. JesusChristsDog: Hi! I am Colonel Panic! Stop nit-picking my writings you old crone! JesusChristsDog: I am not gay! aLm heiper: You sure? I think I will only believe that if you tell me about being a womanizer. JesusChristsDog: I have had many orgies with females. JesusChristsDog: Only one was with a man. I didn't look at him. aLm heiper: Not even a little? JesusChristsDog: I withdraw gufflaws each time it was mentioned. JesusChristsDog: No! Thinking of looking at a man while doing it causes me to feel like I have thermites crawling through my skin! Limp! Eww:-$ aLm heiper: Why don't I believe you? JesusChristsDog: Because you are too new to the discussion list! JesusChristsDog: Back when Hitler used to post, people would respond with actual answers. JesusChristsDog: Cats vs Dogs! JesusChristsDog: Stop nit-picking my material! aLm heiper: Are you looking for an apology? aLm heiper: Are you going to post another message about you thinking about leaving the discussion list? JesusChristsDog: Yes. You should leave the discussion list before I leave the discussion list. JesusChristsDog: I have better things to do anyway. aLm heiper: Like pouting? JesusChristsDog: Like participating in massive intercourse sections with multiple women and men! I mean women! And I've been doing it every day and haven't caught a single STD yet! aLm heiper: Oh of course, how silly of me! _________________________________________ And let us not nitpick about the word being termite! Although "thermite" crawling through ones skin seems like it would hurt. From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 17 23:33:49 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021015014732.12789.qmail@web20422.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021017223349.5115.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, this is the first post I've seen of yours in over 2 months or so! --- Ich bin so wild wrote: > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > > redeeming qualities anymore, > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have people > > around like ZehrWang, > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, GoldenEye, et > > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try to > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > anything anyone would want to read, under any > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > > > al? You could always count > > on some good reading with those folks around, if it > > was sometimes a bit > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > > list. I have much better > > things to do with my time and better people to spend > > it with. Don't worry RTF, > > I'll still email you and a few others around here > > whenever I find something > > interesting to say. > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it > > needs a good flamewar > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > > remembers the many OS wars? Or > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > > whine about how much they hate > > > the > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, > > day after day, posting > > > message > > > > after message about how much they hate the list > > and everyone on it. If > > > they > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > > just leave? --Unless they are > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > > suspect is the case with most > > > of > > > > these mental gimps). > > > > > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really miss > > the days when there was > > > often > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on on > > the PLA-Discussion, and I > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the > > people on it. Well, those > > > were > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will be > > leaving this list pretty > > > soon. I > > > > suppose I could just personally email those of > > you I wish to keep contact > > > with, > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > > yammering away amongst > > > yourselves, > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > > that's what you prefer to > > > do... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at > > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > > Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister > > Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 17 23:42:49 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021017224249.79205.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as anything else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has been some very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for the past 35 years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you might have noticed that. --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being said > in > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bunch of > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I considered it > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary' > precisely > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lot of > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical thinking > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to say just > to > > be disagreeable. > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term "nit-pick" a > lot. Lovely. > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless to say, > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that his > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't expect > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree with you > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.) > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being posted, and > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I spent > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake of > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For the > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head into > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 17 23:54:59 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Ich bin so wild) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021017223349.5115.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021017225459.5810.qmail@web20420.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! --- Colonel Panic wrote: > Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, > this is the first post I've > seen of yours in over 2 months or so! > > --- Ich bin so wild wrote: > > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > > > redeeming qualities anymore, > > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have > people > > > around like ZehrWang, > > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, > GoldenEye, et > > > > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try > to > > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > > anything anyone would want to read, under any > > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > > > > > al? You could always count > > > on some good reading with those folks around, if > it > > > was sometimes a bit > > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > > > list. I have much better > > > things to do with my time and better people to > spend > > > it with. Don't worry RTF, > > > I'll still email you and a few others around > here > > > whenever I find something > > > interesting to say. > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again > that it > > > needs a good flamewar > > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > > > remembers the many OS wars? Or > > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > > > > > > > -- RTF > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > > > whine about how much they hate > > > > the > > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they > are, > > > day after day, posting > > > > message > > > > > after message about how much they hate the > list > > > and everyone on it. If > > > > they > > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > > > just leave? --Unless they are > > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > > > suspect is the case with most > > > > of > > > > > these mental gimps). > > > > > > > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really > miss > > > the days when there was > > > > often > > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on > on > > > the PLA-Discussion, and I > > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of > the > > > people on it. Well, those > > > > were > > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will > be > > > leaving this list pretty > > > > soon. I > > > > > suppose I could just personally email those > of > > > you I wish to keep contact > > > > with, > > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > > > yammering away amongst > > > > yourselves, > > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > > > that's what you prefer to > > > > do... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at > > > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of > the > > > Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou > Wilt.' > > > --Aleister > > > Crowley > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > More > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > ===== > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister > Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at > http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 00:10:07 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Digix) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:10:07 GMT Subject: [PLA_UPL] where in hell is meggito Message-ID: <1034896207@roy.phonelosers.org> meggio where the hell are you man i miss you ;x From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 03:47:38 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:47:38 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] where in hell is meggito Message-ID: The answers you seek are kept under lock and key > >meggio where the hell are you man i miss you ;x > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 07:25:37 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:25:37 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <2.1.1-3100798-383-A-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> diss Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a=20 > year later > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:33:49 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, this is the first=20 > post I've > seen of yours in over 2 months or so! >=20 > --- Ich bin so wild wrote: >>=20 >> --- Colonel Panic wrote: >> >> > >> > And hell, it's not like this list has very many >> > redeeming qualities anymore, >> > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have people >> > around like ZehrWang, >> > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, GoldenEye, et >>=20 >> For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try to >> guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting >> anything anyone would want to read, under any >> circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. >>=20 >> > al? You could always count >> > on some good reading with those folks around, if it >> > was sometimes a bit >> > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this >> > list. I have much better >> > things to do with my time and better people to spend >> > it with. Don't worry RTF, >> > I'll still email you and a few others around here >> > whenever I find something >> > interesting to say. >> > >> > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again that it >> > needs a good flamewar >> > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else >> > remembers the many OS wars? Or >> > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" >> > > >> > > -- RTF >> > > http://bounce.to/rtf >> > > http://phonelosers.net >> > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >> > > >> > > From: "Colonel Panic" >> > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and >> > whine about how much they hate >> > > the >> > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they are, >> > day after day, posting >> > > message >> > > > after message about how much they hate the list >> > and everyone on it. If >> > > they >> > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would >> > just leave? --Unless they are >> > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I >> > suspect is the case with most >> > > of >> > > > these mental gimps). >> > > > >> > > > I know I've said it before, but I really miss >> > the days when there was >> > > often >> > > > something funny and/or interesting going on on >> > the PLA-Discussion, and I >> > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of the >> > people on it. Well, those >> > > were >> > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will be >> > leaving this list pretty >> > > soon. I >> > > > suppose I could just personally email those of >> > you I wish to keep contact >> > > with, >> > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on >> > yammering away amongst >> > > yourselves, >> > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if >> > that's what you prefer to >> > > do... >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > > Check out the Chat Room at >> > http://chat.wearehope.com >> > > >> > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > >> > >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >> > >> > >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >> > >> > >> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the >> > Law; >> > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> > --Aleister >> > Crowley >> > >> ___________________________________________________________ >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >> > Phonelosers mailing list >> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >>=20 >>=20 >> __________________________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> http://faith.yahoo.com >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>=20 >> Phonelosers mailing list >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 07:26:45 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:26:45 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <2.1.1-3101805-383-B-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> damn straight Colonel Panic wrote: > From: Colonel Panic > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a=20 > year later > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:42:49 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but= > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as a= nything > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has=20 > been some > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for=20 > the past 35 > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you m= ight > have noticed that. >=20 > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: >>=20 >> > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was=20 >> being said >> in >> > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a=20 >> bunch of >> > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I=20 >> considered it >> > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary= ' >> precisely >> > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a l= ot of >> > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical=20 >> thinking >> > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to= =20 >> say just >> to >> > be disagreeable. >>=20 >> Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term "nit-pic= k" a >> lot. Lovely. >>=20 >> The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the >> horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless to s= ay, >> I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that his= >> point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't= expect >> more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be >> literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree with y= ou >> again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.)= >>=20 >> Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being posted, a= nd >> I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I s= pent >> an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake of= >> argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For= the >> sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head int= o >> your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>=20 >> Phonelosers mailing list >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.c= om >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 07:28:09 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 02:28:09 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <2.1.1-3102509-383-C-OEWW@mail.softhome.net> colonel panic ist so geil Ich bin so wild wrote: > From: Ich bin so wild > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a=20 > year later > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. >=20 > Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! >=20 > --- Colonel Panic wrote: >> Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, >> this is the first post I've >> seen of yours in over 2 months or so! >>=20 >> --- Ich bin so wild wrote: >> > >> > --- Colonel Panic wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many >> > > redeeming qualities anymore, >> > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have >> people >> > > around like ZehrWang, >> > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, >> GoldenEye, et >> > >> > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try >> to >> > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting >> > anything anyone would want to read, under any >> > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. >> > >> > > al? You could always count >> > > on some good reading with those folks around, if >> it >> > > was sometimes a bit >> > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this >> > > list. I have much better >> > > things to do with my time and better people to >> spend >> > > it with. Don't worry RTF, >> > > I'll still email you and a few others around >> here >> > > whenever I find something >> > > interesting to say. >> > > >> > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again >> that it >> > > needs a good flamewar >> > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else >> > > remembers the many OS wars? Or >> > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" >> > > > >> > > > -- RTF >> > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >> > > > http://phonelosers.net >> > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >> > > > >> > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >> > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and >> > > whine about how much they hate >> > > > the >> > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they >> are, >> > > day after day, posting >> > > > message >> > > > > after message about how much they hate the >> list >> > > and everyone on it. If >> > > > they >> > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would >> > > just leave? --Unless they are >> > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I >> > > suspect is the case with most >> > > > of >> > > > > these mental gimps). >> > > > > >> > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really >> miss >> > > the days when there was >> > > > often >> > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on >> on >> > > the PLA-Discussion, and I >> > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of >> the >> > > people on it. Well, those >> > > > were >> > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will >> be >> > > leaving this list pretty >> > > > soon. I >> > > > > suppose I could just personally email those >> of >> > > you I wish to keep contact >> > > > with, >> > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on >> > > yammering away amongst >> > > > yourselves, >> > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if >> > > that's what you prefer to >> > > > do... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > > > Check out the Chat Room at >> > > http://chat.wearehope.com >> > > > >> > > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > > >> > > >> > >>=20 > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >> > > >> > > >> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >> > > >> > > >> > >>=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of >> the >> > > Law; >> > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou >> Wilt.' >> > > --Aleister >> > > Crowley >> > > >> > >>=20 > ___________________________________________________________ >> > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________ >> > > Do you Yahoo!? >> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & >> More >> > > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > > Check out the Chat Room at >> http://chat.wearehope.com >> > > >> > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > > >> > >>=20 > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > Check out the Chat Room at >> http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >> > Phonelosers mailing list >> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >>=20 > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >>=20 >>=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the >> Law; >> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> --Aleister >> Crowley >>=20 > ___________________________________________________________ >>=20 >> __________________________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> http://faith.yahoo.com >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Check out the Bulletin Board at >> http://bbs.wearehope.com >> Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>=20 >> Phonelosers mailing list >> Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>=20 > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 17:43:38 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021017224249.79205.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returning something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we were in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" And then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for a moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of Hitler's childhood.=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as anythi= ng > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has been= some > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for the p= ast 35 > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you mig= ht > have noticed that. > =20 > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > >=20 > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being= said > > in > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bun= ch of > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I conside= red it > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary' > > precisely > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lo= t of > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical thi= nking=20 > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to sa= y just > > to > > > be disagreeable.=20 > >=20 > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term "nit-pick= " a > > lot. Lovely. > >=20 > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless to s= ay, > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that his > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't exp= ect > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree with y= ou > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.)=20 > >=20 > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being posted, a= nd > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I sp= ent > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake of > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For the > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head into > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >=20 > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 17:43:57 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021017225459.5810.qmail@web20420.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: GAAAA! -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Ich bin so wild wrote: > Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. >=20 > Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! >=20 > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, > > this is the first post I've > > seen of yours in over 2 months or so! > >=20 > > --- Ich bin so wild wrote: > > >=20 > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > >=20 > > > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > > > > redeeming qualities anymore, > > > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have > > people > > > > around like ZehrWang, > > > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, > > GoldenEye, et > > >=20 > > > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try > > to > > > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > > > anything anyone would want to read, under any > > > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > > >=20 > > > > al? You could always count > > > > on some good reading with those folks around, if > > it > > > > was sometimes a bit > > > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > > > > list. I have much better > > > > things to do with my time and better people to > > spend > > > > it with. Don't worry RTF, > > > > I'll still email you and a few others around > > here > > > > whenever I find something > > > > interesting to say.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again > > that it > > > > needs a good flamewar > > > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > > > > remembers the many OS wars? Or > > > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > > > >=20 > > > > > -- RTF > > > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > >=20 > > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > > > > whine about how much they hate > > > > > the > > > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they > > are, > > > > day after day, posting > > > > > message > > > > > > after message about how much they hate the > > list > > > > and everyone on it. If > > > > > they > > > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > > > > just leave? --Unless they are > > > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > > > > suspect is the case with most > > > > > of > > > > > > these mental gimps). > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really > > miss > > > > the days when there was > > > > > often > > > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on > > on > > > > the PLA-Discussion, and I > > > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of > > the > > > > people on it. Well, those > > > > > were > > > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will > > be > > > > leaving this list pretty > > > > > soon. I > > > > > > suppose I could just personally email those > > of > > > > you I wish to keep contact > > > > > with, > > > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > > > > yammering away amongst > > > > > yourselves, > > > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > > > > that's what you prefer to > > > > > do... > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at > > > > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > >=20 > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of > > the > > > > Law;=20 > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou > > Wilt.' > > > > --Aleister > > > > Crowley > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > >=20 > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > > More > > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > >=20 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at > > http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >=20 > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > >=20 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at > > http://chat.wearehope.com > > >=20 > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >=20 > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K > >=20 > > > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > > Law;=20 > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister > > Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >=20 > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Fri Oct 18 17:44:24 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] where in hell is meggito In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To get past a gatekeeper you need to be a keymaster. Wait, didn't RTF say this recently?=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Mr Peanut wrote: > The answers you seek are kept under lock and key > > > >meggio where the hell are you man i miss you ;x > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Broadband?=A0Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access.=20 > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 19 03:07:08 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021019020708.17280.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you accused me of something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returning > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we were > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" And > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for a > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of Hitler's > childhood. > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as anything > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has been > some > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for the > past 35 > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you might > > have noticed that. > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was being > said > > > in > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a bunch > of > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > considered it > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'commentary' > > > precisely > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a lot > of > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical > thinking > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to say > just > > > to > > > > be disagreeable. > > > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term "nit-pick" > a > > > lot. Lovely. > > > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless to > say, > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that his > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't > expect > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree with you > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.) > > > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being posted, and > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I > spent > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake of > > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For the > > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head into > > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 19 03:17:12 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Rob T Firefly) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:17:12 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] where in hell is meggito References: Message-ID: <004701c27715$a3061aa0$ee92bd18@gio> Yes, I did. And as soon as I get my time machine up and running, I'll go back to 1983, copyright it, and retroactively sue Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: > To get past a gatekeeper you need to be a keymaster. > > Wait, didn't RTF say this recently? > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Mr Peanut wrote: > > > The answers you seek are kept under lock and key > > > > > >meggio where the hell are you man i miss you ;x From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 19 04:38:03 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:38:03 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: uuhh us amerecans dont like you germanians > >colonel panic ist so geil > >Ich bin so wild wrote: > >>From: Ich bin so wild >>Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year >>later >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) >> >>Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. >> >>Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! >> >>--- Colonel Panic wrote: >>>Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, >>>this is the first post I've >>>seen of yours in over 2 months or so! >>> >>>--- Ich bin so wild wrote: >>> > >>> > --- Colonel Panic wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many >>> > > redeeming qualities anymore, >>> > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have >>>people >>> > > around like ZehrWang, >>> > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, >>>GoldenEye, et >>> > >>> > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try >>>to >>> > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting >>> > anything anyone would want to read, under any >>> > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. >>> > >>> > > al? You could always count >>> > > on some good reading with those folks around, if >>>it >>> > > was sometimes a bit >>> > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this >>> > > list. I have much better >>> > > things to do with my time and better people to >>>spend >>> > > it with. Don't worry RTF, >>> > > I'll still email you and a few others around >>>here >>> > > whenever I find something >>> > > interesting to say. >>> > > >>> > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: >>> > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again >>>that it >>> > > needs a good flamewar >>> > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else >>> > > remembers the many OS wars? Or >>> > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" >>> > > > >>> > > > -- RTF >>> > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >>> > > > http://phonelosers.net >>> > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >>> > > > >>> > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >>> > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and >>> > > whine about how much they hate >>> > > > the >>> > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they >>>are, >>> > > day after day, posting >>> > > > message >>> > > > > after message about how much they hate the >>>list >>> > > and everyone on it. If >>> > > > they >>> > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would >>> > > just leave? --Unless they are >>> > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I >>> > > suspect is the case with most >>> > > > of >>> > > > > these mental gimps). >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really >>>miss >>> > > the days when there was >>> > > > often >>> > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on >>>on >>> > > the PLA-Discussion, and I >>> > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of >>>the >>> > > people on it. Well, those >>> > > > were >>> > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will >>>be >>> > > leaving this list pretty >>> > > > soon. I >>> > > > > suppose I could just personally email those >>>of >>> > > you I wish to keep contact >>> > > > with, >>> > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on >>> > > yammering away amongst >>> > > > yourselves, >>> > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if >>> > > that's what you prefer to >>> > > > do... >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>_______________________________________________ >>> > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com >>> > > > Check out the Chat Room at >>> > > http://chat.wearehope.com >>> > > > >>> > > > Phonelosers mailing list >>> > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ===== >>> > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of >>>the >>> > > Law; >>> > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou >>>Wilt.' >>> > > --Aleister >>> > > Crowley >>> > > >>> > >>> >>___________________________________________________________ >>> > > >>> > > >>>__________________________________________________ >>> > > Do you Yahoo!? >>> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & >>>More >>> > > http://faith.yahoo.com >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com >>> > > Check out the Chat Room at >>>http://chat.wearehope.com >>> > > >>> > > Phonelosers mailing list >>> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > > >>> > >>> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ >>> > Do you Yahoo!? >>> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >>> > http://faith.yahoo.com >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Check out the Bulletin Board at >>>http://bbs.wearehope.com >>> > Check out the Chat Room at >>>http://chat.wearehope.com >>> > >>> > Phonelosers mailing list >>> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> > >>> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >>> >>> >>>===== >>>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK >>> >>> >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the >>>Law; >>> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >>> --Aleister >>>Crowley >>> >>___________________________________________________________ >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >>>http://faith.yahoo.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Check out the Bulletin Board at >>>http://bbs.wearehope.com >>>Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >>> >>>Phonelosers mailing list >>>Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >>http://faith.yahoo.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >>Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> >>Phonelosers mailing list >>Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 19 04:42:05 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:42:05 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] where in hell is meggito Message-ID: We are all RTF > >To get past a gatekeeper you need to be a keymaster. > >Wait, didn't RTF say this recently? > >-the 3rd w0rm- > >plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers >http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > >On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Mr Peanut wrote: > > > The answers you seek are kept under lock and key > > > > > >meggio where the hell are you man i miss you ;x > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 19 05:02:02 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 00:02:02 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: Did you graduate like 20 years ago? You don't "provide evidence" when you make fun of someone. That is what I like to call "king dork" syndrome. This consists of being an anal little bastard who decides they are the shit and anything else said is pointless. Ill now perdict what youll respond with. "I never do that" "You spelled that wrong" "I hate you" "Ill recieve tonight" Wait thats what you say to your father every night. Harsh, and so much evidence. > >Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you accused me >of >something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. > >--- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returning > > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we were > > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" And > > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for a > > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > > > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of Hitler's > > childhood. > > > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but > > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as >anything > > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has >been > > some > > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for >the > > past 35 > > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you >might > > > have noticed that. > > > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was >being > > said > > > > in > > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a >bunch > > of > > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > > considered it > > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little >'commentary' > > > > precisely > > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a >lot > > of > > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical > > thinking > > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to >say > > just > > > > to > > > > > be disagreeable. > > > > > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term >"nit-pick" > > a > > > > lot. Lovely. > > > > > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless >to > > say, > > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that >his > > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't > > expect > > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be > > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree >with you > > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.) > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being >posted, and > > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I > > spent > > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake >of > > > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For >the > > > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head >into > > > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Mon Oct 21 22:03:59 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021021210359.40071.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> He's a babelfish German. --- Mr Peanut wrote: > uuhh us amerecans dont like you germanians > > > >colonel panic ist so geil > > > >Ich bin so wild wrote: > > > >>From: Ich bin so wild > >>Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year > >>later > >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) > >> > >>Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. > >> > >>Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! > >> > >>--- Colonel Panic wrote: > >>>Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, > >>>this is the first post I've > >>>seen of yours in over 2 months or so! > >>> > >>>--- Ich bin so wild wrote: > >>> > > >>> > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > >>> > > redeeming qualities anymore, > >>> > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have > >>>people > >>> > > around like ZehrWang, > >>> > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, > >>>GoldenEye, et > >>> > > >>> > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try > >>>to > >>> > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > >>> > anything anyone would want to read, under any > >>> > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > >>> > > >>> > > al? You could always count > >>> > > on some good reading with those folks around, if > >>>it > >>> > > was sometimes a bit > >>> > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > >>> > > list. I have much better > >>> > > things to do with my time and better people to > >>>spend > >>> > > it with. Don't worry RTF, > >>> > > I'll still email you and a few others around > >>>here > >>> > > whenever I find something > >>> > > interesting to say. > >>> > > > >>> > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > >>> > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again > >>>that it > >>> > > needs a good flamewar > >>> > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > >>> > > remembers the many OS wars? Or > >>> > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > >>> > > > > >>> > > > -- RTF > >>> > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > >>> > > > http://phonelosers.net > >>> > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > >>> > > > > >>> > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > >>> > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > >>> > > whine about how much they hate > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they > >>>are, > >>> > > day after day, posting > >>> > > > message > >>> > > > > after message about how much they hate the > >>>list > >>> > > and everyone on it. If > >>> > > > they > >>> > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > >>> > > just leave? --Unless they are > >>> > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > >>> > > suspect is the case with most > >>> > > > of > >>> > > > > these mental gimps). > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really > >>>miss > >>> > > the days when there was > >>> > > > often > >>> > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on > >>>on > >>> > > the PLA-Discussion, and I > >>> > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of > >>>the > >>> > > people on it. Well, those > >>> > > > were > >>> > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will > >>>be > >>> > > leaving this list pretty > >>> > > > soon. I > >>> > > > > suppose I could just personally email those > >>>of > >>> > > you I wish to keep contact > >>> > > > with, > >>> > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > >>> > > yammering away amongst > >>> > > > yourselves, > >>> > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > >>> > > that's what you prefer to > >>> > > > do... > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>> > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > >>> > > > Check out the Chat Room at > >>> > > http://chat.wearehope.com > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Phonelosers mailing list > >>> > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ===== > >>> > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >>> > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of > >>>the > >>> > > Law; > >>> > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou > >>>Wilt.' > >>> > > --Aleister > >>> > > Crowley > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>___________________________________________________________ > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>__________________________________________________ > >>> > > Do you Yahoo!? > >>> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > >>>More > >>> > > http://faith.yahoo.com > >>> > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > >>> > > Check out the Chat Room at > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com > >>> > > > >>> > > Phonelosers mailing list > >>> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> > Do you Yahoo!? > >>> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > >>> > http://faith.yahoo.com > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Check out the Bulletin Board at > >>>http://bbs.wearehope.com > >>> > Check out the Chat Room at > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com > >>> > > >>> > Phonelosers mailing list > >>> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >>> > > >>> > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >>> > >>> > >>>===== > >>>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >>> > >>> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >>> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > >>>Law; > >>> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > >>> --Aleister > >>>Crowley > >>> > >>___________________________________________________________ > >>> > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 22 00:00:06 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:00:06 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: And you dont have a penis but, you do enjoy sucking the penis >He's a babelfish German. > >--- Mr Peanut wrote: > > uuhh us amerecans dont like you germanians > > > > > >colonel panic ist so geil > > > > > >Ich bin so wild wrote: > > > > > >>From: Ich bin so wild > > >>Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a >year > > >>later > > >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) > > >> > > >>Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. > > >> > > >>Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! > > >> > > >>--- Colonel Panic wrote: > > >>>Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, > > >>>this is the first post I've > > >>>seen of yours in over 2 months or so! > > >>> > > >>>--- Ich bin so wild wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > > >>> > > redeeming qualities anymore, > > >>> > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have > > >>>people > > >>> > > around like ZehrWang, > > >>> > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, > > >>>GoldenEye, et > > >>> > > > >>> > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try > > >>>to > > >>> > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > > >>> > anything anyone would want to read, under any > > >>> > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > > >>> > > > >>> > > al? You could always count > > >>> > > on some good reading with those folks around, if > > >>>it > > >>> > > was sometimes a bit > > >>> > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > > >>> > > list. I have much better > > >>> > > things to do with my time and better people to > > >>>spend > > >>> > > it with. Don't worry RTF, > > >>> > > I'll still email you and a few others around > > >>>here > > >>> > > whenever I find something > > >>> > > interesting to say. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > >>> > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again > > >>>that it > > >>> > > needs a good flamewar > > >>> > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > > >>> > > remembers the many OS wars? Or > > >>> > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > -- RTF > > >>> > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > >>> > > > http://phonelosers.net > > >>> > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > >>> > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > > >>> > > whine about how much they hate > > >>> > > > the > > >>> > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they > > >>>are, > > >>> > > day after day, posting > > >>> > > > message > > >>> > > > > after message about how much they hate the > > >>>list > > >>> > > and everyone on it. If > > >>> > > > they > > >>> > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > > >>> > > just leave? --Unless they are > > >>> > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > > >>> > > suspect is the case with most > > >>> > > > of > > >>> > > > > these mental gimps). > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really > > >>>miss > > >>> > > the days when there was > > >>> > > > often > > >>> > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on > > >>>on > > >>> > > the PLA-Discussion, and I > > >>> > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of > > >>>the > > >>> > > people on it. Well, those > > >>> > > > were > > >>> > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will > > >>>be > > >>> > > leaving this list pretty > > >>> > > > soon. I > > >>> > > > > suppose I could just personally email those > > >>>of > > >>> > > you I wish to keep contact > > >>> > > > with, > > >>> > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > > >>> > > yammering away amongst > > >>> > > > yourselves, > > >>> > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > > >>> > > that's what you prefer to > > >>> > > > do... > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>> > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >>> > > > Check out the Chat Room at > > >>> > > http://chat.wearehope.com > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > >>> > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ===== > > >>> > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >>> > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of > > >>>the > > >>> > > Law; > > >>> > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou > > >>>Wilt.' > > >>> > > --Aleister > > >>> > > Crowley > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>___________________________________________________________ > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>__________________________________________________ > > >>> > > Do you Yahoo!? > > >>> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > > >>>More > > >>> > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > >>> > > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >>> > > Check out the Chat Room at > > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Phonelosers mailing list > > >>> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > __________________________________________________ > > >>> > Do you Yahoo!? > > >>> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > >>> > http://faith.yahoo.com > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > Check out the Bulletin Board at > > >>>http://bbs.wearehope.com > > >>> > Check out the Chat Room at > > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com > > >>> > > > >>> > Phonelosers mailing list > > >>> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>===== > > >>>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > >>> > > >>> > > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >>> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > > >>>Law; > > >>> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > >>> --Aleister > > >>>Crowley > > >>> > > >>___________________________________________________________ > > >>> > > >=== message truncated === > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 22 03:35:22 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (pyro sawp) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:35:22 -0800 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: <200210220134.g9M1Yqi25750@smtp2.ixpres.com> Sounds like someone has a little case of penis sucking envy. > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later > From: "Mr Peanut" > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:00:06 -0400 > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >And you dont have a penis but, you do enjoy sucking the penis >>He's a babelfish German. >> >>--- Mr Peanut wrote: >> > uuhh us amerecans dont like you germanians >> > > >> > >colonel panic ist so geil >> > > >> > >Ich bin so wild wrote: >> > > >> > >>From: Ich bin so wild >> > >>Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a >>year >> > >>later >> > >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) >> > >> >> > >>Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. >> > >> >> > >>Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! >> > >> >> > >>--- Colonel Panic wrote: >> > >>>Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, >> > >>>this is the first post I've >> > >>>seen of yours in over 2 months or so! >> > >>> >> > >>>--- Ich bin so wild wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > --- Colonel Panic wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many >> > >>> > > redeeming qualities anymore, >> > >>> > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have >> > >>>people >> > >>> > > around like ZehrWang, >> > >>> > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, >> > >>>GoldenEye, et >> > >>> > >> > >>> > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try >> > >>>to >> > >>> > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting >> > >>> > anything anyone would want to read, under any >> > >>> > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > al? You could always count >> > >>> > > on some good reading with those folks around, if >> > >>>it >> > >>> > > was sometimes a bit >> > >>> > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this >> > >>> > > list. I have much better >> > >>> > > things to do with my time and better people to >> > >>>spend >> > >>> > > it with. Don't worry RTF, >> > >>> > > I'll still email you and a few others around >> > >>>here >> > >>> > > whenever I find something >> > >>> > > interesting to say. >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: >> > >>> > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again >> > >>>that it >> > >>> > > needs a good flamewar >> > >>> > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else >> > >>> > > remembers the many OS wars? Or >> > >>> > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > -- RTF >> > >>> > > > http://bounce.to/rtf >> > >>> > > > http://phonelosers.net >> > >>> > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > From: "Colonel Panic" >> > >>> > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and >> > >>> > > whine about how much they hate >> > >>> > > > the >> > >>> > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they >> > >>>are, >> > >>> > > day after day, posting >> > >>> > > > message >> > >>> > > > > after message about how much they hate the >> > >>>list >> > >>> > > and everyone on it. If >> > >>> > > > they >> > >>> > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would >> > >>> > > just leave? --Unless they are >> > >>> > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I >> > >>> > > suspect is the case with most >> > >>> > > > of >> > >>> > > > > these mental gimps). >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really >> > >>>miss >> > >>> > > the days when there was >> > >>> > > > often >> > >>> > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on >> > >>>on >> > >>> > > the PLA-Discussion, and I >> > >>> > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of >> > >>>the >> > >>> > > people on it. Well, those >> > >>> > > > were >> > >>> > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will >> > >>>be >> > >>> > > leaving this list pretty >> > >>> > > > soon. I >> > >>> > > > > suppose I could just personally email those >> > >>>of >> > >>> > > you I wish to keep contact >> > >>> > > > with, >> > >>> > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on >> > >>> > > yammering away amongst >> > >>> > > > yourselves, >> > >>> > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if >> > >>> > > that's what you prefer to >> > >>> > > > do... >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>_______________________________________________ >> > >>> > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > >>> > > > Check out the Chat Room at >> > >>> > > http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > >>> > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > ===== >> > >>> > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> > >>> > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of >> > >>>the >> > >>> > > Law; >> > >>> > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou >> > >>>Wilt.' >> > >>> > > --Aleister >> > >>> > > Crowley >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>___________________________________________________________ >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>__________________________________________________ >> > >>> > > Do you Yahoo!? >> > >>> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & >> > >>>More >> > >>> > > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > >>> > > Check out the Chat Room at >> > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > Phonelosers mailing list >> > >>> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > __________________________________________________ >> > >>> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > >>> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> > >>> > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > Check out the Bulletin Board at >> > >>>http://bbs.wearehope.com >> > >>> > Check out the Chat Room at >> > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Phonelosers mailing list >> > >>> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >> >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>===== >> > >>>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> > >>> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the >> > >>>Law; >> > >>> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> > >>> --Aleister >> > >>>Crowley >> > >>> >> > >>___________________________________________________________ >> > >>> >> > >>=== message truncated === >> >> >>===== >>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK >> >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; >> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' >> --Aleister Crowley >>___________________________________________________________ >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >>http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >>Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >> >>Phonelosers mailing list >>Phonelosers@wearehope.com >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Tue Oct 22 03:55:27 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:55:27 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: talking in the third person is very strange >Sounds like someone has a little case of penis sucking envy. > > > > > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year >later > > From: "Mr Peanut" > > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:00:06 -0400 > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >And you dont have a penis but, you do enjoy sucking the penis > >>He's a babelfish German. > >> > >>--- Mr Peanut wrote: > >> > uuhh us amerecans dont like you germanians > >> > > > >> > >colonel panic ist so geil > >> > > > >> > >Ich bin so wild wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>From: Ich bin so wild > >> > >>Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over >a > >>year > >> > >>later > >> > >>To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> > >>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) > >> > >> > >> > >>Yeah. I go in and out of uh, existence. > >> > >> > >> > >>Oh, and worm: Ich werde Sie essen! > >> > >> > >> > >>--- Colonel Panic wrote: > >> > >>>Well you haven't lately, that's for sure. In fact, > >> > >>>this is the first post I've > >> > >>>seen of yours in over 2 months or so! > >> > >>> > >> > >>>--- Ich bin so wild wrote: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > And hell, it's not like this list has very many > >> > >>> > > redeeming qualities anymore, > >> > >>> > > anyway. I mean, remember when we used to have > >> > >>>people > >> > >>> > > around like ZehrWang, > >> > >>> > > Hevnsent, HappyKill, N0llid, PrimaLux, > >> > >>>GoldenEye, et > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > For what it's worth, I am one of these people (try > >> > >>>to > >> > >>> > guess which!), and I can't remember ever posting > >> > >>> > anything anyone would want to read, under any > >> > >>> > circumstances, ever. I'm flattered, though. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > al? You could always count > >> > >>> > > on some good reading with those folks around, if > >> > >>>it > >> > >>> > > was sometimes a bit > >> > >>> > > predictable. I think I'm just going to quit this > >> > >>> > > list. I have much better > >> > >>> > > things to do with my time and better people to > >> > >>>spend > >> > >>> > > it with. Don't worry RTF, > >> > >>> > > I'll still email you and a few others around > >> > >>>here > >> > >>> > > whenever I find something > >> > >>> > > interesting to say. > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > >> > >>> > > > C'mon, this list has proven time and again > >> > >>>that it > >> > >>> > > needs a good flamewar > >> > >>> > > > every now and then to stay vital. Who else > >> > >>> > > remembers the many OS wars? Or > >> > >>> > > > the infamous "dogs vs. cats?" > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > -- RTF > >> > >>> > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > >> > >>> > > > http://phonelosers.net > >> > >>> > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > >> > >>> > > > > It always confuses me when people bitch and > >> > >>> > > whine about how much they hate > >> > >>> > > > the > >> > >>> > > > > list and everyone on it, and yet there they > >> > >>>are, > >> > >>> > > day after day, posting > >> > >>> > > > message > >> > >>> > > > > after message about how much they hate the > >> > >>>list > >> > >>> > > and everyone on it. If > >> > >>> > > > they > >> > >>> > > > > really hated it so much, wouldn't they would > >> > >>> > > just leave? --Unless they are > >> > >>> > > > > either stupid, masochistic, or both (which I > >> > >>> > > suspect is the case with most > >> > >>> > > > of > >> > >>> > > > > these mental gimps). > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > I know I've said it before, but I really > >> > >>>miss > >> > >>> > > the days when there was > >> > >>> > > > often > >> > >>> > > > > something funny and/or interesting going on > >> > >>>on > >> > >>> > > the PLA-Discussion, and I > >> > >>> > > > > actually enjoyed communicating with most of > >> > >>>the > >> > >>> > > people on it. Well, those > >> > >>> > > > were > >> > >>> > > > > obviously different times. I reckon I will > >> > >>>be > >> > >>> > > leaving this list pretty > >> > >>> > > > soon. I > >> > >>> > > > > suppose I could just personally email those > >> > >>>of > >> > >>> > > you I wish to keep contact > >> > >>> > > > with, > >> > >>> > > > > and the rest can go screw... and keep on > >> > >>> > > yammering away amongst > >> > >>> > > > yourselves, > >> > >>> > > > > calling each other homosexuals and such, if > >> > >>> > > that's what you prefer to > >> > >>> > > > do... > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >> > >>> > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > >> > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > > Check out the Chat Room at > >> > >>> > > http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > Phonelosers mailing list > >> > >>> > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > ===== > >> > >>> > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >> > >>> > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of > >> > >>>the > >> > >>> > > Law; > >> > >>> > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou > >> > >>>Wilt.' > >> > >>> > > --Aleister > >> > >>> > > Crowley > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>___________________________________________________________ > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>>__________________________________________________ > >> > >>> > > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > >>> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & > >> > >>>More > >> > >>> > > http://faith.yahoo.com > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > >>> > > Check out the Bulletin Board at > >> > >>> > > http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > Check out the Chat Room at > >> > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > Phonelosers mailing list > >> > >>> > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >> > >>> > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > >>> > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > >> > >>> > http://faith.yahoo.com > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >> > >>> > Check out the Bulletin Board at > >> > >>>http://bbs.wearehope.com > >> > >>> > Check out the Chat Room at > >> > >>>http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Phonelosers mailing list > >> > >>> > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>===== > >> > >>>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >> > >>> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > >> > >>>Law; > >> > >>> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > >> > >>> --Aleister > >> > >>>Crowley > >> > >>> > >> > >>___________________________________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > > >>=== message truncated === > >> > >> > >>===== > >>--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >> > >>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >> 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > >> There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > >> --Aleister Crowley > >>___________________________________________________________ > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Do you Yahoo!? > >>Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > >>http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >>Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >> > >>Phonelosers mailing list > >>Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >>http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 23 17:30:24 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021019020708.17280.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You just did the same thing as you did in your last post. Is your evidence hidden within the sentence "maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded yourself, you might have noticed that."? Considering we are talking about evidence regarding my unveiled "corporate-mindedness?"=20 You have a very arcane method of hiding your evidence. It is very subtle. So subtle that not even the most skilled detective with a most=20 olfactory-sense-honed dog could locate your cleverly placed evidence. Congratulations, you are a genius.=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you accused = me of > something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. >=20 > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returning > > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we wer= e > > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" And > > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for a > > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > >=20 > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of Hitler'= s > > childhood.=20 > >=20 > > -the 3rd w0rm- > >=20 > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > >=20 > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > >=20 > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but > > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as an= ything > > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has = been > > some > > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for t= he > > past 35 > > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you= might > > > have noticed that. > > > =20 > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was b= eing > > said > > > > in > > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a= bunch > > of > > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > > considered it > > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little 'comment= ary' > > > > precisely > > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is = a lot > > of > > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical > > thinking=20 > > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has t= o say > > just > > > > to > > > > > be disagreeable.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term "nit-= pick" > > a > > > > lot. Lovely. > > > >=20 > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless = to > > say, > > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that = his > > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't > > expect > > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be > > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree wi= th you > > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.= )=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being poste= d, and > > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that = I > > spent > > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake= of > > > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For= the > > > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head = into > > > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > >=20 > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehop= e.com > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K > > >=20 > > > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > >=20 > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > >=20 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > >=20 > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.= com > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >=20 > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Wed Oct 23 19:28:48 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:28:48 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later Message-ID: yeah more like idiot > >You just did the same thing as you did in your last post. Is your evidence >hidden within the sentence "maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded >yourself, you might have noticed that."? Considering we are talking about >evidence regarding my unveiled "corporate-mindedness?" > >You have a very arcane method of hiding your evidence. It is very subtle. >So subtle that not even the most skilled detective with a most >olfactory-sense-honed dog could locate your cleverly placed >evidence. Congratulations, you are a genius. > >-the 3rd w0rm- > >plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers >http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > >On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you accused >me of > > something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returning > > > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we >were > > > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" And > > > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for a > > > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > > > > > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of >Hitler's > > > childhood. > > > > > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > > > > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything >but > > > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as >anything > > > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has >been > > > some > > > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for >the > > > past 35 > > > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, >you might > > > > have noticed that. > > > > > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was >being > > > said > > > > > in > > > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with >a bunch > > > of > > > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > > > considered it > > > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little >'commentary' > > > > > precisely > > > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is >a lot > > > of > > > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and >critical > > > thinking > > > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has >to say > > > just > > > > > to > > > > > > be disagreeable. > > > > > > > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term >"nit-pick" > > > a > > > > > lot. Lovely. > > > > > > > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > > > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless >to > > > say, > > > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that >his > > > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I >shouldn't > > > expect > > > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to >be > > > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree >with you > > > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you >promised.) > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being >posted, and > > > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that >I > > > spent > > > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the >sake of > > > > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. >For the > > > > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head >into > > > > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband.  Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Thu Oct 24 16:05:06 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:05:06 GMT Subject: [PLA_UPL] Bulletin Board.... 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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C27C1F.BAAC9C60-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 26 03:55:44 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021026025544.7863.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Damn this thread is OLD. Aren't you tired of this bullshit yet? Cuz I sure am. --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > You just did the same thing as you did in your last post. Is your evidence > hidden within the sentence "maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded > yourself, you might have noticed that."? Considering we are talking about > evidence regarding my unveiled "corporate-mindedness?" > > You have a very arcane method of hiding your evidence. It is very subtle. > So subtle that not even the most skilled detective with a most > olfactory-sense-honed dog could locate your cleverly placed > evidence. Congratulations, you are a genius. > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you accused me > of > > something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returning > > > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we were > > > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" And > > > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for a > > > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > > > > > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of Hitler's > > > childhood. > > > > > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > > > > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything but > > > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as > anything > > > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There has > been > > > some > > > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium for the > > > past 35 > > > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, you > might > > > > have noticed that. > > > > > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what was > being > > > said > > > > > in > > > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence with a > bunch > > > of > > > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > > > considered it > > > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little > 'commentary' > > > > > precisely > > > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here is a > lot > > > of > > > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and critical > > > thinking > > > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else has to > say > > > just > > > > > to > > > > > > be disagreeable. > > > > > > > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term > "nit-pick" > > > a > > > > > lot. Lovely. > > > > > > > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out the > > > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needless to > > > say, > > > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, that > his > > > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shouldn't > > > expect > > > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to be > > > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree with > you > > > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promised.) > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being posted, > and > > > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea that I > > > spent > > > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the sake > of > > > > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. For > the > > > > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my head > into > > > > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 26 05:10:41 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Mr Peanut) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:10:41 -0400 Subject: [PLA_UPL] BITCH Message-ID: There ya go new thread >Damn this thread is OLD. Aren't you tired of this bullshit yet? Cuz I sure >am. > >--- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > You just did the same thing as you did in your last post. Is your >evidence > > hidden within the sentence "maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded > > yourself, you might have noticed that."? Considering we are talking >about > > evidence regarding my unveiled "corporate-mindedness?" > > > > You have a very arcane method of hiding your evidence. It is very >subtle. > > So subtle that not even the most skilled detective with a most > > olfactory-sense-honed dog could locate your cleverly placed > > evidence. Congratulations, you are a genius. > > > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you >accused me > > of > > > something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. > > > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are >returning > > > > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we >were > > > > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" >And > > > > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter for >a > > > > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > > > > > > > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of >Hitler's > > > > childhood. > > > > > > > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > > > > > > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything >but > > > > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form as > > anything > > > > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There >has > > been > > > > some > > > > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium >for the > > > > past 35 > > > > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself, >you > > might > > > > > have noticed that. > > > > > > > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what >was > > being > > > > said > > > > > > in > > > > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence >with a > > bunch > > > > of > > > > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > > > > considered it > > > > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little > > 'commentary' > > > > > > precisely > > > > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here >is a > > lot > > > > of > > > > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and >critical > > > > thinking > > > > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else >has to > > say > > > > just > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be disagreeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term > > "nit-pick" > > > > a > > > > > > lot. Lovely. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out >the > > > > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. >Needless to > > > > say, > > > > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, >that > > his > > > > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I >shouldn't > > > > expect > > > > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs to >be > > > > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagree >with > > you > > > > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you >promised.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being >posted, > > and > > > > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea >that I > > > > spent > > > > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the >sake > > of > > > > > > argument? I am really not sure how you reached this conclusion. >For > > the > > > > > > sake of my better understanding, please allow me to insert my >head > > into > > > > > > your ass so that I may observe the world from your point of >view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > > --Aleister Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com >Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com > >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 26 12:51:44 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] WTC victims' remains still being found over a year later In-Reply-To: <20021026025544.7863.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah! Screw this thread. Let's go participage in orgies while reading books! I love you!=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > Damn this thread is OLD. Aren't you tired of this bullshit yet? Cuz I su= re am. >=20 > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > You just did the same thing as you did in your last post. Is your evide= nce > > hidden within the sentence "maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded > > yourself, you might have noticed that."? Considering we are talking abo= ut > > evidence regarding my unveiled "corporate-mindedness?"=20 > >=20 > > You have a very arcane method of hiding your evidence. It is very subtl= e. > > So subtle that not even the most skilled detective with a most=20 > > olfactory-sense-honed dog could locate your cleverly placed > > evidence. Congratulations, you are a genius.=20 > >=20 > > -the 3rd w0rm- > >=20 > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > >=20 > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > >=20 > > > Except that I provided evidence of my claim. It is more like you accu= sed me > > of > > > something you yourself are guilty of, and I called you on your shit. > > >=20 > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > Okay, now you are definitely being defensive. Since you are returni= ng > > > > something I said at you and directing it towards me, it is as if we= were > > > > in kindergarten and I was to exclaim, "Colonel Panic likes butts!" = And > > > > then you would stand up, your face would turn red, you'd stutter fo= r a > > > > moment, and then mumble "Worm3rd likes butts!" > > > >=20 > > > > Actually, come to think of it, that's an episode reminiscent of Hit= ler's > > > > childhood.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > > >=20 > > > > plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers > > > > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > > >=20 > > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > > Corporate-minded??? Where did you pull that out of? I am anything= but > > > > > "corporate-minded". And comics can be just as valid an art form a= s > > anything > > > > > else. It's obvious that you know very little about comics. There = has > > been > > > > some > > > > > very intelligent and relevant work being created in that medium f= or the > > > > past 35 > > > > > years or so. Maybe if you weren't so 'corporate-minded' yourself,= you > > might > > > > > have noticed that. > > > > > =20 > > > > > --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Intelligent? Insightful? He missed the entire point of what w= as > > being > > > > said > > > > > > in > > > > > > > that essay and just nit-picked at it, sentence by sentence wi= th a > > bunch > > > > of > > > > > > > ill-reasoned bitchy comments. That was so UNinsightful that I > > > > considered it > > > > > > > wholly unworthy of comment. And furthermore, that little > > 'commentary' > > > > > > precisely > > > > > > > illustrates my point that the only thing going on around here= is a > > lot > > > > of > > > > > > > pointless argument for the sake of argument. Insight and crit= ical > > > > thinking=20 > > > > > > > means much more than just bashing everything everybody else h= as to > > say > > > > just > > > > > > to > > > > > > > be disagreeable.=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Disagreeing is missing the point? K. You like to use the term > > "nit-pick" > > > > a > > > > > > lot. Lovely. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > The reasoning behind my line-by-line approach was to point out = the > > > > > > horrible writing style that the "point" was presented in. Needl= ess to > > > > say, > > > > > > I did clearly state along the way, on more than one occasion, t= hat > > his > > > > > > point was useless. It was just a horrible text. I guess I shoul= dn't > > > > expect > > > > > > more coming from a corporate-minded guy who considers comincs t= o be > > > > > > literature. So, my most sincere apologies. I will never disagre= e with > > you > > > > > > again. (Considering you really are leaving us soon as you promi= sed.)=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Meanwhile, since this e-mail is still in the process of being p= osted, > > and > > > > > > I still have power to disagree: where did you obtain the idea t= hat I > > > > spent > > > > > > an hour replying to that awesome reading material just for the = sake > > of > > > > > > argument? 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Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the Bulletin Board at http://bbs.wearehope.com > Check out the Chat Room at http://chat.wearehope.com >=20 > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com >=20 From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sat Oct 26 22:20:26 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (- CarWash) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:20:26 -0700 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Am I Kicked off the List or what? Message-ID: <200210262120.g9QLKQj27928@mail6.bigmailbox.com> What happened to the List Baby? I was kicked off the craiglist and Threatened with the Pigs if I keep calling up the KinkyMinkys on that shitshack of a list that were looking for people to help them move/ Help out with some Birthday party/ Finding a Fucking lost Cat. Asking me to stop and Care?/ As White Phospherus rounds Hose the Air!! ------------------------------------------------------------ Support Team / PornIndustry.com / webmaster@pornindustry.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 27 01:51:36 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Phonelosers@wearehope.com) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:51:36 EDT Subject: [PLA_UPL] Am I Kicked off the List or what? Message-ID: <16d.14a4af4f.2aec9298@aol.com> --part1_16d.14a4af4f.2aec9298_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/26/02 2:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carwash@pornindustry.com writes: > What happened to the List Baby? > > I was kicked off the craiglist and Threatened with the Pigs if I keep > calling up the KinkyMinkys on that shitshack of a list that were looking > for people to help them move/ Help out with some Birthday party/ Finding a > Fucking lost Cat. > > Asking me to stop and Care?/ As White Phospherus rounds Hose the Air!! > > > > > > > What are you talking about?! --part1_16d.14a4af4f.2aec9298_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/26/02 2:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, carwash@pornindustry.com writes:


What happened to the List Baby?

I was kicked off the craiglist and Threatened with the Pigs if I keep calling up the KinkyMinkys on  that shitshack of a list that  were looking for people to help them move/ Help out with some Birthday party/  Finding a Fucking lost Cat.

Asking me to stop and Care?/ As White Phospherus rounds Hose the Air!!








What are you talking about?! --part1_16d.14a4af4f.2aec9298_boundary-- From Phonelosers@wearehope.com Sun Oct 27 07:00:24 2002 From: Phonelosers@wearehope.com (Colonel Panic) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLA_UPL] Am I Kicked off the List or what? In-Reply-To: <16d.14a4af4f.2aec9298@aol.com> Message-ID: <20021027070024.2524.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> He's a farcical comedian. --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/26/02 2:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > carwash@pornindustry.com writes: > > > > What happened to the List Baby? > > > > I was kicked off the craiglist and Threatened with the Pigs if I keep > > calling up the KinkyMinkys on that shitshack of a list that were looking > > for people to help them move/ Help out with some Birthday party/ Finding a > > > Fucking lost Cat. > > > > Asking me to stop and Care?/ As White Phospherus rounds Hose the Air!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you talking about?! > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Message-ID: gay > >He's a farcical comedian. > >--- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/26/02 2:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > carwash@pornindustry.com writes: > > > > > > > What happened to the List Baby? > > > > > > I was kicked off the craiglist and Threatened with the Pigs if I keep > > > calling up the KinkyMinkys on that shitshack of a list that were >looking > > > for people to help them move/ Help out with some Birthday party/ >Finding a > > > > > Fucking lost Cat. > > > > > > Asking me to stop and Care?/ As White Phospherus rounds Hose the Air!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you talking about?! > > > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! 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In-Reply-To: <20021027070024.2524.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would rather use a term beginning with prefix "schizo." -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org:6668 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > He's a farcical comedian. >=20 > --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/26/02 2:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 > > carwash@pornindustry.com writes: > >=20 > >=20 > > > What happened to the List Baby? > > >=20 > > > I was kicked off the craiglist and Threatened with the Pigs if I keep= =20 > > > calling up the KinkyMinkys on that shitshack of a list that were lo= oking=20 > > > for people to help them move/ Help out with some Birthday party/ Fin= ding a > >=20 > > > Fucking lost Cat. > > >=20 > > > Asking me to stop and Care?/ As White Phospherus rounds Hose the Air!= ! > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > >=20 > > What are you talking about?! > >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! 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First check this out http://xy3.com/phone/vintage/xbr%20mtf.stm Now here is the desk I Welded out of Crossbar Office Master Test frame its not finished yet cus I am going to Add a top hutch and a Dashboard with Old crossbar power supply Guages, and some crossbar switches under the glass. http://www.angelfire.com/linux/masterframe/ its coming out pretty damn cool so far. But also I Like to Drink. :) ------------------------------------------------------------ Support Team / PornIndustry.com / webmaster@pornindustry.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. 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