From spuds@wearehope.com Sat Jun 01 09:29:48 2002 Received: from sccmmhc01.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.183]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17E8x1-0006pr-00; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 09:29:47 -0400 Received: from stevendave ([12.216.226.109]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020601132950.YYLW2006.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@stevendave>; Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:29:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c20970$727347e0$6de2d80c@stevendave> From: "Spuds" To: "Denny Valliant" , , , , References: Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Seems there was a problem with my host last night, and all of the lists were removed from my profile. Fortunately, I was able to recreate them all in less than 10 minutes. I apologize if anyone else's posts bounced last night. Please accept my apologies for the flakiness lately. Spuds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denny Valliant" To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:04 PM Subject: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 22:47:16 -0400 > From: Mail Delivery System > To: valliant@unm.edu > Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post hopelist_wearehope.com > generated by Hopelist@wearehope.com > Child process of virtual_address_pipe transport returned 1 from command: > /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper > > The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: > > ------ pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post hopelist_wearehope.com > generated by Hopelist@wearehope.com ------ > > Mailman error: post got bad listname: hopelist_wearehope.com > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > Return-path: > Received: from kuma.unm.edu ([129.24.9.36]) > by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) > id 17DyvE-0004VH-00 > for Hopelist@wearehope.com; Fri, 31 May 2002 22:47:16 -0400 > Received: (qmail 27429 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2002 02:47:16 -0000 > Received: from valliant@unm.edu by mail.unm.edu with qmail-scanner-0.96 (. Clean. Processed in 0.120316 secs); 01 Jun 2002 02:47:16 -0000 > Received: from den.unm.edu (129.24.49.125) > by kuma.unm.edu with SMTP; 1 Jun 2002 02:47:15 -0000 > Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:47:16 -0600 (MDT) > From: DRV > X-X-Sender: denny@den.unm.edu > To: Hopelist@wearehope.com > Subject: Re: [Hopelist] Whoooo....a VIRUS.... > In-Reply-To: <006e01c20802$bf97f940$6de2d80c@stevendave> > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Ya know, someone I saw today had got the same deal, prompting a discussion > on virii, or how3ver you spell it. > I'm rather out-dated, at least of the nitty-gritty, but just the > stuff I've heard and such... morphing, etc. Frankly amazing. > > On Thu, 30 May 2002 Hopelist-admin@wearehope.com wrote: > > > I was checking my mail today and got a spam message trying to sell me Norton > > Anti-virus software. The E-mail was infected with Klez. > > > > http://www.wearehope.com/virus.jpg > > > > Spuds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hopelist mailing list > > Hopelist@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/hopelist_wearehope.com > > > > > > > From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Sat Jun 01 19:29:36 2002 Received: from web20906.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.228]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EIJU-0001LF-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 19:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: <20020601232943.60117.qmail@web20906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:29:43 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 16:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <000901c20970$727347e0$6de2d80c@stevendave> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: you better be sorry!! i had to resend a whole one line email to the list, you bastard!! and i had to send this berating you for your foolish incompetence. and i really have to pee. --- Spuds wrote: > Seems there was a problem with my host last night, > and all of the lists were > removed from my profile. Fortunately, I was able to > recreate them all in > less than 10 minutes. I apologize if anyone else's > posts bounced last > night. Please accept my apologies for the flakiness > lately. > > Spuds > > ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Sat Jun 01 19:30:32 2002 Received: from web20902.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.224]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EIKO-0001at-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 19:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: <20020601233039.50761.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:30:39 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 16:30:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [pla_upl] ROy eats poo To: phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hehe, this was trapped by the yahoo spam filter! --- El_Gordo _Uno wrote:

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===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sun Jun 02 00:17:18 2002 Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.190]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EMnu-0004YS-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 02 Jun 2002 00:17:18 -0400 Message-ID: <20020602041727.26085.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.37.134.215] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 21:17:27 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 21:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020601232943.60117.qmail@web20906.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey Nevar, have you heard from any of the other Wraiths lately? --- Nevar More wrote: > you better be sorry!! > > i had to resend a whole one line email to the list, > you bastard!! > > and i had to send this berating you for your foolish > incompetence. > > and i really have to pee. > > --- Spuds wrote: > > Seems there was a problem with my host last night, > > and all of the lists were > > removed from my profile. Fortunately, I was able to > > recreate them all in > > less than 10 minutes. I apologize if anyone else's > > posts bounced last > > night. Please accept my apologies for the flakiness > > lately. > > > > Spuds > > > > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From spuds@wearehope.com Sun Jun 02 19:34:55 2002 Received: from sccmmhc02.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EesB-0000pZ-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 02 Jun 2002 19:34:55 -0400 Received: from stevendave ([12.216.226.109]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020602233510.RIQM25309.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@stevendave> for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 23:35:10 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c20a8e$24646bf0$6de2d80c@stevendave> From: "Spuds" To: Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 18:35:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [PLA_UPL] New features.... Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: In case you haven't been to www.wearehope.com in a while, I've changed hosts, and we have new features. Chat: http://chat.wearehope.com is for people who like to chat. It's phpMyChat, and it's not SO bad. Not IRC by any means, but it'll do in a pinch. Forums: http://bbs.wearehope.com will take you to the forums for discussion. As if a mailing list wasn't enough, but at least the messages will keep for all posterity. There are a lot of forums there that I have pre-entered. If there's something there that I've missed, and you've always wanted to have your own forum to moderate, let me know... I'll be happy to add it for you and set you up. Of course, you have to register for the forums, but I don't expect anyone to input their real info. Just be sure to leave your real e-mail address. (Or ANY e-mail address that you check) because the forum does send out a random password to verify you. Any questions, let me know.. and have fun, eh? Spuds From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Sun Jun 02 21:13:01 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EgP6-00068P-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:13:00 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g531DHi06100 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 21:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <006501c20a9b$d4c53da0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020531201455.48123.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Early Web TV Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 21:13:12 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Colonel Panic" > All this was after we got tired of playing with that old b&w Radio Shack TRS-80.* Don't be dissin' mah Trash-80. I was such a ninja on that thing way back when. I eventually had a large chunk of a rudimentary word processor written in BASIC worked out on that thing, written in bits and bytes over the course of about a year. Until, that is, my little sister stole my data cassettes and taped music over them all. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Sun Jun 02 21:15:29 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EgRV-0006kV-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:15:29 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g531Fki06431 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 21:15:46 -0400 Message-ID: <008501c20a9c$2d5c6100$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <000f01c20a8e$24646bf0$6de2d80c@stevendave> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] New features.... Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 21:15:40 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Spuds, you're a nice man! -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spuds" To: Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: [PLA_UPL] New features.... > In case you haven't been to www.wearehope.com in a while, I've changed > hosts, and we have new features. > > Chat: http://chat.wearehope.com is for people who like to chat. It's > phpMyChat, and it's not SO bad. Not IRC by any means, but it'll do in a > pinch. > > Forums: http://bbs.wearehope.com will take you to the forums for > discussion. As if a mailing list wasn't enough, but at least the messages > will keep for all posterity. There are a lot of forums there that I have > pre-entered. > > If there's something there that I've missed, and you've always wanted to > have your own forum to moderate, let me know... I'll be happy to add it for > you and set you up. Of course, you have to register for the forums, but I > don't expect anyone to input their real info. Just be sure to leave your > real e-mail address. (Or ANY e-mail address that you check) because the > forum does send out a random password to verify you. > > Any questions, let me know.. and have fun, eh? > > Spuds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From spuds@wearehope.com Sun Jun 02 21:45:10 2002 Received: from sccmmhc02.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EguE-0004Rm-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:45:10 -0400 Received: from stevendave ([12.216.226.109]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020603014525.SCVH25309.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@stevendave> for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 01:45:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c20aa0$55b02ed0$6de2d80c@stevendave> From: "Spuds" To: References: <000f01c20a8e$24646bf0$6de2d80c@stevendave> <008501c20a9c$2d5c6100$ee92bd18@gio> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] New features.... Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 20:45:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, I just want people to use it, so I don't feel like an ass for spending so much time setting it all up.... Spuds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob T Firefly" To: Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] New features.... > Spuds, you're a nice man! > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spuds" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:35 PM > Subject: [PLA_UPL] New features.... > > > > In case you haven't been to www.wearehope.com in a while, I've changed > > hosts, and we have new features. > > > > Chat: http://chat.wearehope.com is for people who like to chat. It's > > phpMyChat, and it's not SO bad. Not IRC by any means, but it'll do in a > > pinch. > > > > Forums: http://bbs.wearehope.com will take you to the forums for > > discussion. As if a mailing list wasn't enough, but at least the messages > > will keep for all posterity. There are a lot of forums there that I have > > pre-entered. > > > > If there's something there that I've missed, and you've always wanted to > > have your own forum to moderate, let me know... I'll be happy to add it > for > > you and set you up. Of course, you have to register for the forums, but I > > don't expect anyone to input their real info. Just be sure to leave your > > real e-mail address. (Or ANY e-mail address that you check) because the > > forum does send out a random password to verify you. > > > > Any questions, let me know.. and have fun, eh? > > > > Spuds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Sun Jun 02 22:26:12 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17EhXw-0005fZ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:26:12 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g532QUi14168 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 22:26:30 -0400 Message-ID: <020c01c20aa6$0ede6520$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020531204601.15875.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Commodore SX-64 Executive Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 22:26:24 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Colonel Panic" > I saw one of these at a thrift store around the corner from my house about 6 months ago, > but I don't think it worked. They wanted $30.00 for it, which I didn't have at the time. > When I returned a couple days later, it was gone. Dammit, it hurts! I want one!!@#$%^& -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From teknopuck@yahoo.com Mon Jun 03 20:34:47 2002 Received: from web11202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F2Hf-0005tr-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:34:47 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604003453.29911.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:34:53 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:34:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Early Web TV To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <006501c20a9b$d4c53da0$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Yah yah YAH, RTF, We've ALL heard about yer old hand-coded BASIC 'RufuSoft Word for the TRS-80.' I hope you gave that lil bitch what-for fer taping over your software... Around that same time (late 1980's), I had this videotape with the classic flik 'Fantastic Planet.' It was this oddball Belgian SciFi animated feature from the 1970's about humans (called "hommes" in the movie) living on another planet, where they are kept as pets and exterminated like rats by these giant weird spotted blue people (called the "drogs"), until one of them steals this set of walkman headphones (which is really a 'teaching machine of the drogs') and the humans educate themselves and learn all the drogs' technology, then hit them where they breed (the so-called "Fantastic Planet," where the drogs astrally travel to in these little transparent spheres when they meditate, and they hook up with these Greek statues sans heads, and the spheres they ride in land atop the statues where the statues' heads should be, and then the statues begin to do this waltzy gay 'mating dance,' until the humans begin destroying their statues while they are dancing and it throws the drogs into a state of panicked frenzy and they finally learn that humans are nothing to fuck with and they must learn to live in peace. Well anyway, I had that movie (you should all go rent it and watch it immediately--It's sort of like a cautionary tale of our modern day techno-social-political situation, you know? The drogs=big-business+government bullying the average people, the hommes=the average people, the 'learning machine'=computers+the h/p community, the meditation spherey things=the internet, the statues=the big business' corporate/legal mechanisms of oppression... get it?) ANYWAY, I had the movie plus a bunch of old 'Young Ones' episodes and some other cool videos on a tape and my asshole younger brother taped Super Bowl XX over it, you know, when the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl like, the only time EVER, and of course, he NEVER WATCHED it AGAIN! the ASSHOLE!!! So he ruined one of my favorite videos for SHIT! Grrrrr... Hmmm... where was I going with this? Oh, yah! RTF, you remember the old Microsoft 'Scott Adams Adventures' series text-based adventure games for the TRS-80? Like 'Dracula's Castle,' 'The Funhouse,' etc. How about the 'Zork' series? 'Zork,' 'Zork II,' 'Zork III...' Then later, somebody made a game that used the same basic text-parsing mechanism based on 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.' Remember those? It might be phun to make a text-adventure game like those, based on the olden days of phreaking, eh? --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: "Colonel Panic" > > All this was after we got tired of playing with that old b&w Radio Shack > TRS-80.* > > Don't be dissin' mah Trash-80. I was such a ninja on that thing way back > when. I eventually had a large chunk of a rudimentary word processor > written in BASIC worked out on that thing, written in bits and bytes over > the course of about a year. Until, that is, my little sister stole my data > cassettes and taped music over them all. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Mon Jun 03 20:36:57 2002 Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.190]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F2Jl-0006KK-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:36:57 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604003703.37010.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:37:03 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:37:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] New features.... To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <000d01c20aa0$55b02ed0$6de2d80c@stevendave> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey, shall we set up a new Phonelosers chat forum, for when there're a bunch of us online here at the same time? --- Spuds wrote: > Well, I just want people to use it, so I don't feel like an ass for spending > so much time setting it all up.... > > Spuds > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob T Firefly" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] New features.... > > > > Spuds, you're a nice man! > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Spuds" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:35 PM > > Subject: [PLA_UPL] New features.... > > > > > > > In case you haven't been to www.wearehope.com in a while, I've changed > > > hosts, and we have new features. > > > > > > Chat: http://chat.wearehope.com is for people who like to chat. It's > > > phpMyChat, and it's not SO bad. Not IRC by any means, but it'll do in a > > > pinch. > > > > > > Forums: http://bbs.wearehope.com will take you to the forums for > > > discussion. As if a mailing list wasn't enough, but at least the > messages > > > will keep for all posterity. There are a lot of forums there that I > have > > > pre-entered. > > > > > > If there's something there that I've missed, and you've always wanted to > > > have your own forum to moderate, let me know... I'll be happy to add it > > for > > > you and set you up. Of course, you have to register for the forums, but > I > > > don't expect anyone to input their real info. Just be sure to leave > your > > > real e-mail address. (Or ANY e-mail address that you check) because the > > > forum does send out a random password to verify you. > > > > > > Any questions, let me know.. and have fun, eh? > > > > > > Spuds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Mon Jun 03 20:38:50 2002 Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.190]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F2LZ-0006kn-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604003855.37268.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:38:55 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Commodore SX-64 Executive To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <020c01c20aa6$0ede6520$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, ever since I got my laptop, I stopped dreaming about those kinds of things so much. Now I just dream about having my laptop work trouble-free 100% of the time. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: "Colonel Panic" > > I saw one of these at a thrift store around the corner from my house about > 6 months ago, > > but I don't think it worked. They wanted $30.00 for it, which I didn't > have at the time. > > When I returned a couple days later, it was gone. > > Dammit, it hurts! I want one!!@#$%^& > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Mon Jun 03 22:24:16 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F3zc-0005pN-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 22:24:16 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g542ONi10565 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: <001a01c20b6e$eb024da0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020604003453.29911.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Early Web TV Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:24:12 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Colonel Panic" > Oh, yah! RTF, you remember the old Microsoft 'Scott Adams Adventures' series text-based > adventure games for the TRS-80? Like 'Dracula's Castle,' 'The Funhouse,' etc. How about > the 'Zork' series? 'Zork,' 'Zork II,' 'Zork III...' > Then later, somebody made a game that used the same basic text-parsing mechanism based > on 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.' > Remember those? > It might be phun to make a text-adventure game like those, based on the olden days of > phreaking, eh? Heh, I have copies of a Zork game or two, and the Hitchhikers' one, for DOS left over from my 286 days. I should dig 'em up and post 'em. I also have some authoring software for those types of games, but I never took the time to figure it out. I'll dig for this stuff. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From NetMaster7@aol.com Mon Jun 03 23:16:06 2002 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.5]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F4nl-0000QF-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:16:05 -0400 Received: from NetMaster7@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.9f.2821ba6e (16782) for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:16:01 -0400 (EDT) From: NetMaster7@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.2821ba6e.2a2d8af0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:16:00 EDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] fwd: fakes To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9f.2821ba6e.2a2d8af0_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --part1_9f.2821ba6e.2a2d8af0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/30/2002 9:58:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, colleen_card@yahoo.com writes: > That guy rocks! Though I do find your reply to be not only typical but highly ironic, that guy does not rock. In fact, he's quite stupid, and he's a dime a dozen. Read his e-mail again and think about it some more, or find his website to see what I mean. He's no different from the people he loves to criticize, and he very simply loves attention. --part1_9f.2821ba6e.2a2d8af0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/30/2002 9:58:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, colleen_card@yahoo.com writes:

That guy rocks!



Though I do find your reply to be not only typical but highly ironic, that guy does not rock. In fact, he's quite stupid, and he's a dime a dozen. Read his e-mail again and think about it some more, or find his website to see what I mean. He's no different from the people he loves to criticize, and he very simply loves attention. --part1_9f.2821ba6e.2a2d8af0_boundary-- From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Mon Jun 03 23:17:39 2002 Received: from web20910.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.232]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F4pH-0000fx-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604031745.92878.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:17:45 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020602041727.26085.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: i go to college about a mile from sulcatas house, practially lived there for most of my fall semester (thanks sulcata!!) gave him the signup link yesterday. i got wang back on here so him too. ive got wicks AIM handle, sulcata and i met him this year when he was going to a conference near us. megan is around, but she wasnt much into the scene anyway. uhh lets see that leaves uhmm goldeneye (who seems to have disappeared, but i think he just got a new handle and is still lurking around here, he'll turn up eventually. who else am i forgetting? --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > Hey Nevar, have you heard from any of the other > Wraiths lately? ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Mon Jun 03 23:37:00 2002 Received: from web20901.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.223]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F580-00042S-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:37:00 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604033707.68348.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:37:07 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:37:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604031745.92878.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] XP Power tools Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: y0 sulcata sent me this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp useful shit for XP ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Mon Jun 03 23:38:54 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F59p-0004M4-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:38:53 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g543d1i19365 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <016901c20b79$5814c620$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020604031745.92878.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:38:51 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Nevar More" > i go to college about a mile from sulcatas house, > practially lived there for most of my fall semester > (thanks sulcata!!) gave him the signup link yesterday. > i got wang back on here so him too. ive got wicks AIM > handle, sulcata and i met him this year when he was > going to a conference near us. megan is around, but > she wasnt much into the scene anyway. uhh lets see > that leaves uhmm goldeneye (who seems to have > disappeared, but i think he just got a new handle and > is still lurking around here, he'll turn up > eventually. who else am i forgetting? Heh... you guys should do a reunion tour, like the Stones, now that you're all old and out of practice, like the Stones. Or at least put your little icons back up on the web somewhere. I miss them! Or maybe we can get this list back up to the 200-post-a-days of yore. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From in_phase@juno.com Mon Jun 03 23:52:50 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F5NJ-0006eH-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:52:49 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfUA1EPr6xFlmLC5VfLvI4Z2A5Ge8HVo6jQ=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4FA35RS; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 23:52:17 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 21:55:12 MDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Message-ID: <20020603.215514.-444693.0.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-22,24-46 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: What ever happened to Spessa? and... Ben D Canning "WHEELDUST WHEELDUST" "neo ." Devil3unny@aol.com rfld@beer.com ohm "nawl eed" "Gwonk Kessler" Evan Radecki NitePhreak@aol.com _14 k4 "£ÖRÐ ítÇh" ABE2 Moore and others I'll dig out of my old inbox messages some other time... --- On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Nevar More writes: > i go to college about a mile from sulcatas house, > practially lived there for most of my fall semester > (thanks sulcata!!) gave him the signup link yesterday. > i got wang back on here so him too. ive got wicks AIM > handle, sulcata and i met him this year when he was > going to a conference near us. megan is around, but > she wasnt much into the scene anyway. uhh lets see > that leaves uhmm goldeneye (who seems to have > disappeared, but i think he just got a new handle and > is still lurking around here, he'll turn up > eventually. who else am i forgetting? > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > Hey Nevar, have you heard from any of the other > > Wraiths lately? > > > ===== > NevarMore > From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Tue Jun 04 00:20:23 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F5nz-00020Z-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 00:20:23 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g544KVi25213 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:20:31 -0400 Message-ID: <03fe01c20b7f$201cb6a0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020603.215514.-444693.0.in_phase@juno.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:20:14 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by host3.hostaurl.com id g544KVi25213 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: > What ever happened to Spessa? > > and... > Ben D Canning > "WHEELDUST WHEELDUST" > "neo ." > Devil3unny@aol.com Hey, Primalux. I remember her. Didn't she disappear along with ol' reb0= rn? > rfld@beer.com > ohm > "nawl eed" > "Gwonk Kessler" > Evan Radecki > NitePhreak@aol.com Nitephreak (aka decx0r) still attends our local 2600 meetings. I shall s= end him the signup link. > _14 k4 > "=A3=D6R=D0 =EDt=C7h" > ABE2 Moore > > and others I'll dig out of my old inbox messages > some other time... -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From colleen_card@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 00:27:43 2002 Received: from web20005.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.225.68]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F5v4-00039D-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 00:27:42 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604042736.60817.qmail@web20005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.217.25.180] by web20005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 21:27:35 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 21:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Colleen Card Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] fwd: fakes To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <9f.2821ba6e.2a2d8af0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I don't think people with paranoid delousions are "a dime a dozen." I deleted the origonal so I have not seen this website. But I don't realy care. Colleen --- NetMaster7@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/30/2002 9:58:18 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > colleen_card@yahoo.com writes: > > > That guy rocks! > > > Though I do find your reply to be not only typical > but highly ironic, that > guy does not rock. In fact, he's quite stupid, and > he's a dime a dozen. Read > his e-mail again and think about it some more, or > find his website to see > what I mean. He's no different from the people he > loves to criticize, and he > very simply loves attention. > ===== Colleen Card Techno Bitch http://technoba.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Why no Mr.Kirck Dexters in school.




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From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Tue Jun 04 01:38:30 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17F71a-00053o-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 01:38:30 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g545cYi01165 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 01:38:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c20b89$f9f1e580$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Is Dexter ill - Is Dexter ill - Is Dexter ill - Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 01:37:00 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm afraid he's not, Ms. Fishbourne. Dexter's truancy problem is way out of hand. The Baltimore county school board has decided to expel Dexter from the entire public school system! From: El_Gordo _Uno >> Why no Mr.Kirck Dexters in school. The Pimp Masta, Adam >From: "Rob T Firefly" > >Is Dexter ill today? > > -- RTF >http://bounce.to/rtf >http://phonelosers.net >AIM - Rob T Firefly From ryushaba@hotmail.com Tue Jun 04 12:08:36 2002 Received: from f28.law4.hotmail.com ([216.33.149.28] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FGrM-0001Si-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:08:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:08:46 -0700 Received: from 208.6.40.91 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 16:08:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.6.40.91] From: "Garmonbozia In a Box" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Is Dexter ill - Is Dexter ill - Is Dexter ill - Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 16:08:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2002 16:08:46.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AF7B130:01C20BE2] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: But Mr. Kirk, I'm as upset as you are about Dexter's truancy, but surely EXPULSION is not the answer! > >I'm afraid he's not, Ms. Fishbourne. Dexter's truancy problem is way out >of >hand. The Baltimore county school board has decided to expel Dexter from >the entire public school system! > >From: El_Gordo _Uno > >> >Why no Mr.Kirck Dexters in school. > > > > > >The Pimp Masta, >Adam > >From: "Rob T Firefly" > > > >Is Dexter ill today? > > > > -- RTF > >http://bounce.to/rtf > >http://phonelosers.net > >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 14:35:15 2002 Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.187]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FJ9H-0003cq-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:35:15 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604183522.30553.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 11:35:22 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Zork, Scott Adams, HHGTTG Games To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <001a01c20b6e$eb024da0$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Great! All give homage, worship RTF! I fig'd you'd come through w/ something 'leeto f-rad keen, like you often do! BTW, I wonder what ever happened to ole Mr.Scott Adams? Is he now a MS mega-multi-billionaire, or is he off rotting away somewhere on some grain-soaked, skid-row/Boulevard Of Broken Dreams for all the masses of flared-out/failed/fucked-over casualties of Micro- Soft's meteoric, Machiavellian campaign towards global domination? Oh, and I have a copy of the HHGTTG in Apple][ format, which I can run using my Apple][ emulator--for some Xtra-Xtra-Geeky fun %({8~D> PS-Whatever happened to the Geek Code blocks you used to see at the bottom of peoples' emaill signatures? --- RUFUS T. Firefly wrote: > Heh, I have copies of a Zork game or two, and the Hitchhikers' one, for DOS > left over from my 286 days. I should dig 'em up and post 'em. > > I also have some authoring software for those types of games, but I never > took the time to figure it out. I'll dig for this stuff. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 14:42:58 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FJGk-0005ef-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:42:58 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604184310.80555.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 11:43:10 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604031745.92878.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The guy from Texas, um, LINError? lInERROR, something like that? (he was realy picky about the spelling) and if memory serves, there was somebody from Canada... --- Nevar More wrote: > i go to college about a mile from sulcatas house, > practially lived there for most of my fall semester > (thanks sulcata!!) gave him the signup link yesterday. > i got wang back on here so him too. ive got wicks AIM > handle, sulcata and i met him this year when he was > going to a conference near us. megan is around, but > she wasnt much into the scene anyway. uhh lets see > that leaves uhmm goldeneye (who seems to have > disappeared, but i think he just got a new handle and > is still lurking around here, he'll turn up > eventually. who else am i forgetting? > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > Hey Nevar, have you heard from any of the other > > Wraiths lately? > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 14:49:37 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FJNB-0006rK-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:49:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604184949.81872.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 11:49:49 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020603.215514.-444693.0.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: And who was that girl from California whose name on her email account was like, 'Devil Bunny,' or something, and she posted to the PLA_Discussion list on pretty much a daily basis, but then she had this boyfriend who was a total asshole and just went around criticizing and insulting everybody? What was her name? I forget. Not long after she left the PLA list, then Goldeneye split. She wasn't a member of Wraith, though. And hey, what about Danny Zero? I liked him. There was a dude who knew how to keep his mouth shut! --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > What ever happened to Spessa? > > and... > Ben D Canning > "WHEELDUST WHEELDUST" > "neo ." > Devil3unny@aol.com > rfld@beer.com > ohm > "nawl eed" > "Gwonk Kessler" > Evan Radecki > NitePhreak@aol.com > _14 k4 > "£ÖRÐ ítÇh" > ABE2 Moore > > and others I'll dig out of my old inbox messages > some other time... > > --- > > > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Nevar More > writes: > > i go to college about a mile from sulcatas house, > > practially lived there for most of my fall semester > > (thanks sulcata!!) gave him the signup link yesterday. > > i got wang back on here so him too. ive got wicks AIM > > handle, sulcata and i met him this year when he was > > going to a conference near us. megan is around, but > > she wasnt much into the scene anyway. uhh lets see > > that leaves uhmm goldeneye (who seems to have > > disappeared, but i think he just got a new handle and > > is still lurking around here, he'll turn up > > eventually. who else am i forgetting? > > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Nevar, have you heard from any of the other > > > Wraiths lately? > > > > > > ===== > > NevarMore > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 14:52:20 2002 Received: from web11202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FJPn-0007Ni-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 14:52:20 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604185206.10530.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 11:52:03 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <03fe01c20b7f$201cb6a0$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: That was her! PrimaLux! 'Devil Bunny!' and Reb0rn! That dude was really irritating. Always insulting and flaming people. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: > > What ever happened to Spessa? > > > > and... > > Ben D Canning > > "WHEELDUST WHEELDUST" > > "neo ." > > Devil3unny@aol.com > > Hey, Primalux. I remember her. Didn't she disappear along with ol' reb0rn? > > > rfld@beer.com > > ohm > > "nawl eed" > > "Gwonk Kessler" > > Evan Radecki > > NitePhreak@aol.com > > Nitephreak (aka decx0r) still attends our local 2600 meetings. I shall send > him the signup link. > > > _14 k4 > > "£ÖRÐ ítÇh" > > ABE2 Moore > > > > and others I'll dig out of my old inbox messages > > some other time... > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 15:25:40 2002 Received: from web20904.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.226]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FJw4-0007lQ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:25:40 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604192550.89351.qmail@web20904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:25:50 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604184310.80555.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: yea linerror knew his shit, and the canadian was aftermath, who is/was back on the list a few months ago. hes ganna kill me for forgetting that. there was also marnay, who never said a damn thing and we believe was another one of GE's aliases. oh and danny zero, GEs hardware hacker buddy that made toys but never posted. --- Colonel Panic wrote: > The guy from Texas, um, LINError? lInERROR, > something like that? (he was realy picky > about the spelling) and if memory serves, there was > somebody from Canada... > ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 15:27:59 2002 Received: from web20902.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.224]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FJyI-0008HI-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:27:58 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604192811.81732.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:28:11 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:28:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604184949.81872.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she got a hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also the name of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r m3! ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 15:32:26 2002 Received: from web20903.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.225]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FK2b-00017F-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604193238.49547.qmail@web20903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:32:38 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] best IRC client Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ok, thanks to my goddamn allergies my eyes burn and i had to leave work early. so ive decided to distract myself from that pain with a bigger one, im going back on to IRC. whats the best client? im running XP Pro Corporate (Build 2600) if that affects your opinion any. ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Tue Jun 04 17:49:30 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FMBF-000879-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:49:29 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g54LneT25749 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:49:40 GMT Received: (qmail 9108 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Jun 2002 21:49:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20020604214940.9107.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.31.207] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:49:40 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:49:40 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] best IRC client X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.31.207 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: XiRCON ----- Original Message ----- From: Nevar More Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: [PLA_UPL] best IRC client > ok, thanks to my goddamn allergies my eyes burn and i > had to leave work early. so ive decided to distract > myself from that pain with a bigger one, im going back > on to IRC. > > whats the best client? im running XP Pro Corporate > (Build 2600) if that affects your opinion any. > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 18:04:14 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FMPV-0003IA-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:04:13 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604220427.18080.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:04:27 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:04:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604192550.89351.qmail@web20904.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm pretty sure Danny Zero was an alias, too. GE once told me that he was sort of a 'running joke' around Wraithtech, that he didn't exist and that he got more fan mail than anybody else. But then, GE used to claim he was a security expert, too. --- Nevar More wrote: > yea linerror knew his shit, and the canadian was > aftermath, who is/was back on the list a few months > ago. hes ganna kill me for forgetting that. > > there was also marnay, who never said a damn thing and > we believe was another one of GE's aliases. oh and > danny zero, GEs hardware hacker buddy that made toys > but never posted. > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > The guy from Texas, um, LINError? lInERROR, > > something like that? (he was realy picky > > about the spelling) and if memory serves, there was > > somebody from Canada... > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 18:06:14 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FMRR-0003i2-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 18:06:13 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604220553.18295.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 15:05:53 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:05:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604192811.81732.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Yah, I think Luvox is a drug for paranoiac scizophrenia. --- Nevar More wrote: > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she got a > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also the name > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r m3! > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 19:39:24 2002 Received: from web20903.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.225]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FNtb-0005MC-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <20020604233937.91830.qmail@web20903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 16:39:37 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604220427.18080.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hehe yea. GE did spew a lot of BS, but he kept sending out his ideas and occasionally one of them was good enough to discuss for a few weeks. I think we all accepted that wraith tech was just a small subset of the PLA, it was a place where we could bitch and talk without the noise from the general populace. --- Colonel Panic wrote: > I'm pretty sure Danny Zero was an alias, too. GE > once told me that he was sort of a > 'running joke' around Wraithtech, that he didn't > exist and that he got more fan mail > than anybody else. But then, GE used to claim he was > a security expert, too. ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From in_phase@juno.com Tue Jun 04 21:18:16 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FPRI-0007nO-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:18:16 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfcE92OyArpr4wAAx5SSvR92n5QKZNlEVsA=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4HLLBHQ; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:16:53 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:19:18 MDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Message-ID: <20020604.191919.-2635.0.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-21,23-45 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Remember this early Goldeneye email address?: david chase then later: golden eye And some other oldies: David R. Hooper BUZZWEISER@webtv.net Max Wallace Lakefan99@aol.com Eric Heinz infomania@europe.com "PeterS" "Jacob ." jj sazonite Orion0014@aol.com nevarmore --- On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Nevar More writes: > hehe yea. GE did spew a lot of BS, but he kept sending > out his ideas and occasionally one of them was good > enough to discuss for a few weeks. I think we all > accepted that wraith tech was just a small subset of > the PLA, it was a place where we could bitch and talk > without the noise from the general populace. > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > I'm pretty sure Danny Zero was an alias, too. GE > > once told me that he was sort of a > > 'running joke' around Wraithtech, that he didn't > > exist and that he got more fan mail > > than anybody else. But then, GE used to claim he was > > a security expert, too. > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Tue Jun 04 22:09:15 2002 Received: from web20909.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.231]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FQEd-0003Kr-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:09:15 -0400 Message-ID: <20020605020930.64299.qmail@web20909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:09:30 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604.191919.-2635.0.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: shit i forgot i had that. maybe i should go check it, now to remember a password i havent used in 5 years.... ill send $1 to anyone who can break that account. > nevarmore ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 05 00:22:31 2002 Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.189]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FSJb-0002UJ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 00:22:31 -0400 Message-ID: <20020605042246.32587.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.130.41] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:22:46 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:22:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020604.191919.-2635.0.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Wow! Those take me back... Hmmm, I wish we could still go back and re-read all the old archives from back when the list was on Yahoo. It sucks that they just went and deleted all those messages and files without any warning. 'Terms of Service violation,' indeed! I'd like to hear from some of those folks again. That'd make the PLA board really interesting! Not to diss any of the great conversationalists we have around here nowadays... --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > Remember this early Goldeneye email address?: > david chase > then later: > golden eye > > And some other oldies: > David R. Hooper > BUZZWEISER@webtv.net > Max Wallace > Lakefan99@aol.com > Eric Heinz > infomania@europe.com > "PeterS" > "Jacob ." > jj > sazonite > Orion0014@aol.com > nevarmore > > --- > > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Nevar More > writes: > > hehe yea. GE did spew a lot of BS, but he kept sending > > out his ideas and occasionally one of them was good > > enough to discuss for a few weeks. I think we all > > accepted that wraith tech was just a small subset of > > the PLA, it was a place where we could bitch and talk > > without the noise from the general populace. > > > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure Danny Zero was an alias, too. GE > > > once told me that he was sort of a > > > 'running joke' around Wraithtech, that he didn't > > > exist and that he got more fan mail > > > than anybody else. But then, GE used to claim he was > > > a security expert, too. > > > > > > ===== > > NevarMore > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Wed Jun 05 00:29:04 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FSPw-0003UW-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 00:29:04 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g554TKi04160 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:29:20 -0400 Message-ID: <003f01c20c49$864044e0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020604192811.81732.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:29:04 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Devil3unny/Primalux definitely wasn't Luvox. They were different ages, had different websites, lived in different states even if memory serves. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: "Nevar More" > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she got a > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also the name > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r m3! > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Wed Jun 05 00:34:14 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FSUw-0004A2-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 00:34:14 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g554YUi04629 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:34:30 -0400 Message-ID: <005001c20c4a$3ee4f220$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020604185206.10530.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:34:13 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Colonel Panic" > That was her! PrimaLux! 'Devil Bunny!' and Reb0rn! That dude was really irritating. > Always insulting and flaming people. I never had a problem with the guy. Come to think of it, I never had a problem with anyone on any of the PLA lists really. Dammit, I need an enemy! -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From punkrocknothing@msn.com Wed Jun 05 00:40:15 2002 Received: from f28.pav0.hotmail.com ([64.4.32.212] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FSal-0004xf-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 00:40:15 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:40:29 -0700 Received: from 67.24.74.24 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:40:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.24.74.24] From: "linear !" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:40:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2002 04:40:29.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E888860:01C20C4B] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: linear@phonelosers.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: i miss PrimaLux! >From: "Rob T Firefly" >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: >returning message to sender (fwd)) >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:29:04 -0400 > >Devil3unny/Primalux definitely wasn't Luvox. They were different ages, had >different websites, lived in different states even if memory serves. > > -- RTF >http://bounce.to/rtf >http://phonelosers.net >AIM - Rob T Firefly > >From: "Nevar More" > > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she got a > > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also the name > > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r m3! > > > > ===== > > NevarMore > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > linear http://www.phonelosers.net AIM: itslinear Y!: the_linear ICQ: 42604993 MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From punkrocknothing@msn.com Wed Jun 05 00:41:59 2002 Received: from f36.pav0.hotmail.com ([64.4.32.220] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FScR-0005EW-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 00:41:59 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:42:13 -0700 Received: from 67.24.74.24 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:42:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.24.74.24] From: "linear !" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:42:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2002 04:42:13.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C8FBE80:01C20C4B] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: linear@phonelosers.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Fuck you, RTF! I hate you. >From: "Rob T Firefly" >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: >returning message to sender (fwd)) >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:34:13 -0400 > >From: "Colonel Panic" > > That was her! PrimaLux! 'Devil Bunny!' and Reb0rn! That dude was really >irritating. > > Always insulting and flaming people. > >I never had a problem with the guy. Come to think of it, I never had a >problem with anyone on any of the PLA lists really. Dammit, I need an >enemy! > > -- RTF >http://bounce.to/rtf >http://phonelosers.net >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > linear http://www.phonelosers.net AIM: itslinear Y!: the_linear ICQ: 42604993 MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Wed Jun 05 01:09:54 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FT3S-0000vs-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 01:09:54 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g555ABi08799 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 01:10:11 -0400 Message-ID: <009f01c20c4f$39bf8e40$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 01:09:52 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Bite me, linear! And.. uhh... yo momma! From: "linear !" > > Fuck you, RTF! I hate you. > > >From: "Rob T Firefly" > >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? 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Dammit, I need an > >enemy! > > > > -- RTF > >http://bounce.to/rtf > >http://phonelosers.net > >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > linear > http://www.phonelosers.net > AIM: itslinear > Y!: the_linear > ICQ: 42604993 > MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From tuna@yahoo.com Wed Jun 05 06:59:29 2002 Received: from web12503.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.195]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FYVl-0006wM-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 06:59:29 -0400 Message-ID: <20020605105947.90335.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [148.74.255.140] by web12503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 03:59:47 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 03:59:47 -0700 (PDT) From: w00t To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1491349479-1023274787=:89930" Subject: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-1491349479-1023274787=:89930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Found this, is it real? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 08:03:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2002 12:03:23.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDD07D60:01C20C88] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >Yes, there was a plane that was lost, and >there were people on that plane and they >are dead. It is really rather insulting to >them and their families to imply that the >whole thing was just made up for political >reasons. I agree. I also hope it isn't true. >And as for that 'military targets' statement, >that was completely moronic. That little tirade >was just as indicative of its author's total >ignorance of the realities of military, civic, >and political matters, as it was of his rude, >hackneyed, and childish wish to incite outrage >from anybody with any more basic integrity or >compassion than he has. There is nothing noble, >holy, valiant or brave about somebody murdering >any number of unarmed non-combatants by slyly >exploiting the good will and civilized nature of >decent people. Yes, childish, incite outrage, so on. Sorry for having an opinion. But whats worse is calling an opinion childish and so on without giving any reason other than because you said so. You are entitled to your say, but at least explain your reasoning for the name calling, which I thought was fairly uncalled for. >The Pentagon, although it is the national HQ for >the military complex, is NOT staffed solely by >military personnel. It is primarily an office bldg, >and there are many thousands of civilians who work >there every day, in various capacities, and for the >various branches of the U.S. Government, as well as >the private business sector (y'know, industry). Ok, fine, let's say the pentagon was an unfair target (which I don't agree with). What about the Cole? How is attacking a warship, manned by those in the armed forces, terrorism? How the hell is that not a legitimate target? Nothing they attack would be legitimate. Every action they take will be labeled as terrorism. At least a few Americans notice that the Israels call the Palestinians, defending their towns, homes, and family, terrorists. But, with a little help from the mass media, we don't see it happening in our own country. Blowing up a warship should in no way be regarded as terrorism. Attacking the national military headquarters should not be miscontrued as terrorism. What remorse do we feel for those 'civilians' who design weapons for the bad guys. Those who sell weapons to the bad guys are arms dealers. They sell them to the US and they're contracters. But, nothing is wrong with the accidental killing of an illegal arms dealer. Noone cares if we take down a few of their radio men, but someone takes down a few of our 'civilian' guys from signals and its terrorism. >Terrorism is much more cowardly than bombing military >troops from afar with cruise missiles and heavy >artillery, because unarmed civilians pose no threat >or bearing on the situation and cannot defend themselves. >In fact, although the assholes who piloted those four >planes knew in advance and fully intended to die for >their misguided leader, the others had no idea they were >on a suicide mission, a fact that Osama Bin Laden had a >hearty good laugh about later on with his slimy terrorist >'cleric' buddies. They even disregarded the fact that >there were many good, upstanding Muslims killed in this >attack, which blatantly goes against the Islamic laws >governing how to conduct Jihad against nonbelieving >enemies. To begin with, the tapes were blatantly fake. Tell the US to release a digital god damn copy next time. Meanwhile, the Europeans have done a good job of poking holes in the integrity of the first tape, and blatantly disproving the second. Then again, if you watch US media for your news you wouldn't have ever heard about it. Oh, and before you start talking about the 'Islamic laws governing how to conduct Jihad' you really need to sit down and read the Holy Koran. I've read it, and I still wouldn't claim to understand Islamic law better than those who practice it. >I now have said all I have to say on this matter, and >will not be baited into an argument or flame-war over >this. Kiss my ass. Stop thinking you can say your opinion and not get a rebuttal. You challenged what I said, it was not the other way around. You started the name calling, not I. I don't want a flame war. I would, however, like an intelligent conversation over our differing viewpoints. One from which, hopefully we can both gain insight. If you can avoid the previous name calling, we can hopefully avoid having this conversation degenerateing further. If you would like to discontinue the discussion, fine. But don't think that you can challenge my opinion (name calling and such aside) without a response. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Wed Jun 05 10:14:47 2002 Received: from web20908.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.230]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FbYk-0006vb-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 10:14:47 -0400 Message-ID: <20020605141505.26769.qmail@web20908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 07:15:05 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 07:15:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020605105947.90335.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hmm, do i reply with some beatnik hippie shit here or a matrix quote.... --- w00t wrote: > Found this, is it real? > > ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From punkrocknothing@msn.com Wed Jun 05 15:43:40 2002 Received: from f24.pav0.hotmail.com ([64.4.32.208] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Fgh2-0004cl-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:43:40 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:44:00 -0700 Received: from 163.150.18.13 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 19:43:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [163.150.18.13] From: "linear !" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 19:43:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2002 19:44:00.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[5699B930:01C20CC9] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: linear@phonelosers.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I guess he's content, just like US media, to spout off opinions and "facts" without any evidence. I guess when you've been brought up in a world so accepting of "news" that's so blatantly bias, you learn to model your own pathetic attempts at arguments much in the same manner. Anyway, I applaude you, nathaniel, at least SOMEone on the list thinks. >From: "Nathaniel Wilson" >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( >Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 08:03:22 -0400 > >>Yes, there was a plane that was lost, and >>there were people on that plane and they >>are dead. It is really rather insulting to >>them and their families to imply that the >>whole thing was just made up for political >>reasons. > >I agree. I also hope it isn't true. > >>And as for that 'military targets' statement, >>that was completely moronic. That little tirade >>was just as indicative of its author's total >>ignorance of the realities of military, civic, >>and political matters, as it was of his rude, >>hackneyed, and childish wish to incite outrage >>from anybody with any more basic integrity or >>compassion than he has. There is nothing noble, >>holy, valiant or brave about somebody murdering >>any number of unarmed non-combatants by slyly >>exploiting the good will and civilized nature of >>decent people. > >Yes, childish, incite outrage, so on. Sorry for having an opinion. But >whats worse is calling an opinion childish and so on without giving any >reason other than because you said so. You are entitled to your say, but >at >least explain your reasoning for the name calling, which I thought was >fairly uncalled for. > >>The Pentagon, although it is the national HQ for >>the military complex, is NOT staffed solely by >>military personnel. It is primarily an office bldg, >>and there are many thousands of civilians who work >>there every day, in various capacities, and for the >>various branches of the U.S. Government, as well as >>the private business sector (y'know, industry). > >Ok, fine, let's say the pentagon was an unfair target (which I don't agree >with). What about the Cole? How is attacking a warship, manned by those >in >the armed forces, terrorism? How the hell is that not a legitimate target? >Nothing they attack would be legitimate. Every action they take will be >labeled as terrorism. At least a few Americans notice that the Israels >call >the Palestinians, defending their towns, homes, and family, terrorists. >But, with a little help from the mass media, we don't see it happening in >our own country. Blowing up a warship should in no way be regarded as >terrorism. Attacking the national military headquarters should not be >miscontrued as terrorism. What remorse do we feel for those 'civilians' >who >design weapons for the bad guys. Those who sell weapons to the bad guys >are >arms dealers. They sell them to the US and they're contracters. But, >nothing is wrong with the accidental killing of an illegal arms dealer. >Noone cares if we take down a few of their radio men, but someone takes >down >a few of our 'civilian' guys from signals and its terrorism. > >>Terrorism is much more cowardly than bombing military >>troops from afar with cruise missiles and heavy >>artillery, because unarmed civilians pose no threat >>or bearing on the situation and cannot defend themselves. >>In fact, although the assholes who piloted those four >>planes knew in advance and fully intended to die for >>their misguided leader, the others had no idea they were >>on a suicide mission, a fact that Osama Bin Laden had a >>hearty good laugh about later on with his slimy terrorist >>'cleric' buddies. They even disregarded the fact that >>there were many good, upstanding Muslims killed in this >>attack, which blatantly goes against the Islamic laws >>governing how to conduct Jihad against nonbelieving >>enemies. > >To begin with, the tapes were blatantly fake. Tell the US to release a >digital god damn copy next time. Meanwhile, the Europeans have done a good >job of poking holes in the integrity of the first tape, and blatantly >disproving the second. Then again, if you watch US media for your news you >wouldn't have ever heard about it. Oh, and before you start talking about >the 'Islamic laws governing how to conduct Jihad' you really need to sit >down and read the Holy Koran. I've read it, and I still wouldn't claim to >understand Islamic law better than those who practice it. > >>I now have said all I have to say on this matter, and >>will not be baited into an argument or flame-war over >>this. > >Kiss my ass. Stop thinking you can say your opinion and not get a >rebuttal. > You challenged what I said, it was not the other way around. You started >the name calling, not I. I don't want a flame war. I would, however, like >an intelligent conversation over our differing viewpoints. One from which, >hopefully we can both gain insight. If you can avoid the previous name >calling, we can hopefully avoid having this conversation degenerateing >further. If you would like to discontinue the discussion, fine. But don't >think that you can challenge my opinion (name calling and such aside) >without a response. > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From punkrocknothing@msn.com Wed Jun 05 15:44:08 2002 Received: from f17.pav0.hotmail.com ([64.4.33.88] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FghU-0004lM-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:44:08 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 12:44:27 -0700 Received: from 163.150.18.13 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 19:44:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [163.150.18.13] From: "linear !" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 19:44:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2002 19:44:27.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[6710F6C0:01C20CC9] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: linear@phonelosers.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: i vote beatnik! >From: Nevar More >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 07:15:05 -0700 (PDT) > >hmm, do i reply with some beatnik hippie shit here or >a matrix quote.... > > >--- w00t wrote: > > Found this, is it real? > > > > > >===== >NevarMore > >"OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Wed Jun 05 16:11:02 2002 Received: from web20909.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.231]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Fh7W-0002vZ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:11:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20020605201123.48242.qmail@web20909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:11:23 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:11:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ONE BEATNICK COMING UP! This place is only as real as you think it is, man. Maybe we're all just some dream of some guy on acid, brother you gots to realize that you cant know if this is real or not man. --- linear ! wrote: > > i vote beatnik! > > > >hmm, do i reply with some beatnik hippie shit here > or > >a matrix quote.... > > > > > >--- w00t wrote: > > > Found this, is it real? ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From DarkkstaR1@aol.com Wed Jun 05 20:24:56 2002 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.106]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Fl5E-0005xO-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 20:24:56 -0400 Received: from DarkkstaR1@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.165.e4b8794 (16484) for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:25:01 -0400 (EDT) From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com Message-ID: <165.e4b8794.2a3005dd@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:25:01 EDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_165.e4b8794.2a3005dd_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --part1_165.e4b8794.2a3005dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/02 7:01:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tuna@yahoo.com writes: > > i dont feel like downloading it, however its not real. if its called 'ekaf', its fake spelled backwards. --part1_165.e4b8794.2a3005dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/5/02 7:01:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tuna@yahoo.com writes:



Found this, is it real?


i dont feel like downloading it, however its not real.  if its called 'ekaf', its fake spelled backwards. --part1_165.e4b8794.2a3005dd_boundary-- From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 05 21:53:55 2002 Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.186]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17FmTK-0003u6-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:53:54 -0400 Message-ID: <20020606015417.11430.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.69.163.66] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 18:54:17 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <003f01c20c49$864044e0$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I think they both lived in California, actually, though different towns. GE told me that Luvox showed up at his front door (?) one day and said she needed a place to crash. Since he lived with his folks, he told her that was impossible, but supposedly gave her the addresses of some friends of his who might help her out. Then, he said, some regrettable 'events' occurred which he refused to expound upon (one might only wonder what those might be). Well, whatever happened led to an inevitable falling-out, after which GE posted her pic on the PLA board inviting any and all to have a crack at mutilating her image via Adobe. Of course, you throw a dog a bone... Several slanderous images were posted to the list, one being pornographic, depicting Luvox's head striped onto a porno star's body in a bathroom. GE claims he emailed this pic to her dad, saying that he had tried to stop her, but she had run away from home to take up with pornographers, and was the newest star of smut films. This, I believe was the occurence that led to the downfall of the WraithTech website! I an surprised none of you knew all this, it happened right on the PLA list for all to read! --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Devil3unny/Primalux definitely wasn't Luvox. They were different ages, had > different websites, lived in different states even if memory serves. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > From: "Nevar More" > > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she got a > > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also the name > > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r m3! > > > > ===== > > NevarMore > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Thu Jun 06 00:35:39 2002 Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.187]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Fozq-0002Iu-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 00:35:38 -0400 Message-ID: <20020606043603.74171.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.135] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:36:03 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: If it's an enemy you seek, I would be happy to act in that regard. For a small fee, of course. > >From: "Rob T Firefly" > >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: > >returning message to sender (fwd)) > >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:34:13 -0400 > > > >From: "Colonel Panic" > > > That was her! PrimaLux! 'Devil Bunny!' and Reb0rn! That dude was really > >irritating. > > > Always insulting and flaming people. > > > >I never had a problem with the guy. Come to think of it, I never had a > >problem with anyone on any of the PLA lists really. Dammit, I need an > >enemy! > > > > -- RTF > >http://bounce.to/rtf > >http://phonelosers.net > >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > linear > http://www.phonelosers.net > AIM: itslinear > Y!: the_linear > ICQ: 42604993 > MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Thu Jun 06 00:37:44 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Fp1s-0002dA-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 00:37:44 -0400 Message-ID: <20020606043808.4542.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.135] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:38:08 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:38:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020605105947.90335.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I think it's a hoax. I wouldn't install that, if I were you. --- w00t wrote: > Found this, is it real? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed name=Ps2_Emulator.zip ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Thu Jun 06 14:04:24 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17G1cW-0000a6-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:04:24 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g56I4ri06400 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:04:54 -0400 Message-ID: <006c01c20d84$9e641b00$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020605105947.90335.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Playstation 2 Emulator Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:04:35 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 947k seems like an awfully tiny file to emulate a beast like the PS2. But, stranger things have happened Rather than using this file, though, I'd download a clean version of zophar if I wanted to mess with it. It's at: http://www.zophar.net/psx2.html -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: "w00t" > Found this, is it real? From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Thu Jun 06 14:05:48 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17G1ds-0000vz-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:05:48 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g56I6Hi06822 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:06:17 -0400 Message-ID: <007601c20d84$cfca9700$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020606015417.11430.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:05:58 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Colonel Panic" > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, though different towns. > > GE told me that Luvox showed up at his front door (?) one day and said she needed a place > to crash. Since he lived with his folks, he told her that was impossible, but supposedly > gave her the addresses of some friends of his who might help her out. Then, he said, some > regrettable 'events' occurred which he refused to expound upon (one might only wonder > what those might be). Well, whatever happened led to an inevitable falling-out, after > which GE posted her pic on the PLA board inviting any and all to have a crack at > mutilating her image via Adobe. > Of course, you throw a dog a bone... > Several slanderous images were posted to the list, one being pornographic, depicting > Luvox's head striped onto a porno star's body in a bathroom. > GE claims he emailed this pic to her dad, saying that he had tried to stop her, but she > had run away from home to take up with pornographers, and was the newest star of smut > films. > This, I believe was the occurence that led to the downfall of the WraithTech website! > I an surprised none of you knew all this, it happened right on the PLA list for all to > read! I think I just skipped over the GE/Luvox flame war stuff after a while. It wasn't much fun. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From teknopuck@yahoo.com Thu Jun 06 14:32:54 2002 Received: from web11202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17G246-0006gU-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:32:54 -0400 Message-ID: <20020606183322.83343.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.27] by web11202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:33:22 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( To: phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: OK I think you took some of what I said the wrong way. I didn't mean to assault you personally. I guess I am just rather passionate about these kinds of subjects. Let me clarify my position. > I agree. I also hope it isn't true. Well, although it is true that (philosophically speaking) we can't be sure of the existence of anything beyond what we personally experience with our own 5 senses (and even those, being imperfect, are not 100% reliable, and our own cognitive interpretation of what we see is likewise fall- ible, yadda yadda... etc), you know that argument, as the Simpsons' family lawyer Lionel Hutz presented it,"But what IS truth, if you catch my meaning...". We cannot be everywhere at all times in order to eye- witness world events as they happen, nor should we endanger ourselves unduly by travelling to dangerous places just to keep abreast of daily occurrences, so then we utilize the news services. Now as to which news services we choose to rely upon, I agree that the mainstream American network news system (the Associated Press, International Press wire services and their regional affiliates) might not be 100% reliable, and their affiliates' (most owned by major corporations, except perhaps for public radio and TV) reportage may carry a partisan or pro-U.S. Government and pro-big business stance, despite what many Republicans will tell you about a 'liberal media.' But where do we turn for news? The BBC? They have the same problems as the news services based in the U.S. Other countries, European or Asian news services? Well, I would think it depends on what country you are looking from news about. If you are looking for news concerning a country in Asia, for instance Tibet, why not go straight to a Tibetan newspaper? I would imagine there must be some English- language Tibetan news resource on the Internet. Trouble is, you would have to research it a little to make sure it is not promoted or owned by the PRC as a propaganda-mill. As all this regards the issue at hand, the events of Sept. 11, 2001: on the 11th, as it happened I immediately searched online for all info I could get about the tragedy. For weeks afterwards, I scoured the web for news stories, and no major, widely respected source I read reported any stories con- flicting with the account that airplanes had crashed into both WTC towers AND the Pentagon. The groups claiming respon- sibility for the attack was an issue for several days, even after the U.S. Gov't announced it figured it was Bin Laden, and after the U.S. went public with its main issues that led suspicion to the Saudi multimillionaire, most reputable news sources were in agreement that this was the truth. This is the basis upon which I formed by beliefs. I am not about to beleive some kook with a Web page and no better 'evidence' than a bunch of screen-res photos culled from the internet with airplanes photoshopped over them no matter what country he's from, or how cynically-worded his website, or how cool that sideways-scrolley thing was. Robert Anton Wilson, an author widely recognized as an expert on conspiracy theories (he has written at least one great sci-fi novel series lampooning the idea of a world controlled by secret societies, and many interesting treatises and books on the phenomenon of those who see (or pretend to) illogical connections between unconnected and or coincidental events and imagine impossibly vast, far-reaching conspiracies to account for them) says that you must draw a line as to what trust you are going place in your sources to accept your data (news) as truth. If you call the New York Times (for example) a liar, then you must ask yourself, is the agency where I am getting my news less- or more-biased than the New York Times? If you choose to beleive some guy who has a Web page on the internet with cynical, rhetorical-sounding copy, and no credible sources, no system of error-reportage, etc. over an established news source of many decades (well over a century) which has a worldwide readership, and publicly runs announce- ments (errata) when they have been found to have made factual errors in their stories, then you must ask yourself,"why? could it be that I prefer to disbelieve the established news sources? and why is that? am I following some agenda here, and only seeing that which supports that agenda, that which I want to believe?" I try to employ critical thinking to the data I encounter in my daily life. For that reason, I often see things in the news that infuriate me, in their stupidity, short-sightedness, or worse, their villainous exploitation of the lethargy and pas- sivity of the majority of the populace. It is because of this search for the truth and the conclusions it has brought me to that I hold the political beliefs that I do. I try not, however to let my political beliefs and my anger over injustice and ignorance color my judgement or influence my perceptions of the world around me. You must be careful lest your anger lead you to make presumptions for which there is no evidence. Once you start listening to crackpots, the battle for the truth is lost. > Yes, childish, incite outrage, so on. Sorry for having an opinion. But > whats worse is calling an opinion childish and so on without giving any > reason other than because you said so. You are entitled to your say, but at > least explain your reasoning for the name calling, which I thought was > fairly uncalled for. I did not say that your OPINION was childish, nor did I call YOU childish. What I said was, that the, "wish to incite outrage from anybody with any basic integrity or compassion" was childish. And it is. Imagine if it was one of YOUR family members, a sister or brother perhaps, or a parent who got killed on an airplane on his/her way to California on vacation or something. You'd be pretty pissed, and hurt. Well, to deny that such an outrage against our entire country even happened shows a fair bit of cynical political bias. Being American is not something we all can help. We were born here, and, like it or not, it is a defining part of who we are. Whether we agree with the policies of our government or not, we must have compassion for our countrymen who are killed--ON OUR OWN SOIL, no less, by radical political extremists from another country, mustn't we? I think you'd be singing a different tune if it'd been one of your family or friends killed by those assholes. And the fact is, I agree with the Palestinians that Israel should encourage its people NOT to settle in Palestinian areas of the West Bank, and NOT offer financial incentives for Israelis who open their businesses outside the state of Israel. Encouraging Israeli economic growth in Palestinian areas is tantamount to government-sanctioned colonialism or imperialism. They are expanding their state's borders by giving their people economic advantage over citizens of another, bordering nation and thereby, controlling influence over Palestinian territories, mile-by-mile, block-by-block. Then, when the Palestin- ians fight back in the only way they know, having no military, they are deemed 'terrorists' and 'enemies of the world.' And the U.S. gives Israel billions every year in economic and military aid to encourage this practice. > Ok, fine, let's say the pentagon was an unfair target (which I don't agree > with). What about the Cole? How is attacking a warship, manned by those in > the armed forces, terrorism? How the hell is that not a legitimate target? > Nothing they attack would be legitimate. Every action they take will be > labeled as terrorism. At least a few Americans notice that the Israels call > the Palestinians, defending their towns, homes, and family, terrorists. > But, with a little help from the mass media, we don't see it happening in > our own country. Blowing up a warship should in no way be regarded as > terrorism. Attacking the national military headquarters should not be > miscontrued as terrorism. What remorse do we feel for those 'civilians' who > design weapons for the bad guys. Those who sell weapons to the bad guys are > arms dealers. They sell them to the US and they're contracters. But, > nothing is wrong with the accidental killing of an illegal arms dealer. > Noone cares if we take down a few of their radio men, but someone takes down > a few of our 'civilian' guys from signals and its terrorism. Signals is a military corps. It is not civilian. And I never said the attack on the Cole was not fair. But, it occurred in another nation's waters, a nation friendly to the U.S. So it was a violation of International Law if it was carried out by a government explicitly, but it wasn't. It was an attack by an armed insurgent group. This still falls under the heading of terrorism. It is still barbaric, because our world is supposed to operate under certain rules. For instance, if a government attacks another country's territory, embassy, holdings, etc. It is considered an act of war. So war is declared upon the offending country. But if it is done by an agency outside a government (but perhaps covertly receiving aid from a government) it is a criminal act, eg. terrorism, and unless a link can be proven between the group and the 'harboring' or supporting country, war can not be declared legally and the deed goes unpunished. That is the difference. Thing is, our country's revolution was started by terrorism. It eventually led to war, and we beat the British fairly but it started with, basically, terrorism. > > To begin with, the tapes were blatantly fake. Tell the US to release a > digital god damn copy next time. Meanwhile, the Europeans have done a good > job of poking holes in the integrity of the first tape, and blatantly > disproving the second. Then again, if you watch US media for your news you > wouldn't have ever heard about it. Oh, and before you start talking about > the 'Islamic laws governing how to conduct Jihad' you really need to sit > down and read the Holy Koran. I've read it, and I still wouldn't claim to > understand Islamic law better than those who practice it. > I don't see how you can say categorically that the tapes were fake. As I stated above, where is your evidence? When you say "The Europeans disproved this," which Europeans do you mean? The British? The French? The Germans? And whom, in which of these countries? Was it a major Swiss newspaper that published this evidence, or was it the rhetoric of some extremist Islamic group in rural Turkey? Because in all my travels on the Internet, (where I assume you heard this info) I have never seen any con- vincing evidence they were fake. I have heard allegations from Egyptian news services to that effect, but I am not inclined to beleive them, simply because they are biased in an anti-American angle. It is precisely for this reason that I do not beleive them, aside from their conspicuous lack of evidence. Show me the original tapes that were supposedly altered to create the ones we saw on the news and on the Internet. I even asked a friend of mine who speaks Arabic to tell me if what they were saying on the tape matched the translation. He told me that roughly, yes it was correct. And what do you mean by a 'digital copy'? These were video- tapes, found in homes in Afghanistan. How do you know the original copies were digitally taped and not analog? I have read much of the Koran. I had to, for a class in school called, "World Religions: Middle East" and we discussed Islam in great depth, as well as the religions practiced in the Middle East and Northern Africa prior to the rise of Islam in the 7th century. Also, I have several friends who are practicing Muslims, (I did drive a taxicab in a major American city for over five years) some are very devout, and they are not terrorists. In fact they are every bit as disgusted by the actions of these assholes as I am. You will recall from your study of The Koran, that it describes three types of Jihad (or 'struggle'); that Jihad which a man conducts within himself, essentially the battle between right (good) and the inpulse to act in one's own service to the detriment of others (evil), the Jihad carried out within the Islamic community among different ideologies as to which one is the true will of Allah, and the Jihad between the Islamic community and the non-Islamic community within an Islamic state. There is nothing in the Koran to condone killing other innocent Muslims in the interest of Jihad. If you had read your Koran closely, you would have noticed that. Perhaps yours is not an accurate translation of the original Kufic? No, those people are not any more exemplary of Muslims than the idiots who bomb abortion clinics are of Christians. They are just criminals. I am in no hurry to justify the abhorrent acts of any society. ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Thu Jun 06 21:14:19 2002 Received: from web20904.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.226]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17G8KZ-0001tZ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:14:19 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607011450.45517.qmail@web20904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:14:50 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:14:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020606015417.11430.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: gee, he failed to mention any of this when he called me at home and asked me to save his ass and the site. GE: i know youre still out there. come clean. --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, > though different towns. > > GE told me that Luvox showed up at his front door > (?) one day and said she needed a place > to crash. Since he lived with his folks, he told her > that was impossible, but supposedly > gave her the addresses of some friends of his who > might help her out. Then, he said, some > regrettable 'events' occurred which he refused to > expound upon (one might only wonder > what those might be). Well, whatever happened led to > an inevitable falling-out, after > which GE posted her pic on the PLA board inviting > any and all to have a crack at > mutilating her image via Adobe. > Of course, you throw a dog a bone... > Several slanderous images were posted to the list, > one being pornographic, depicting > Luvox's head striped onto a porno star's body in a > bathroom. > GE claims he emailed this pic to her dad, saying > that he had tried to stop her, but she > had run away from home to take up with > pornographers, and was the newest star of smut > films. > This, I believe was the occurence that led to the > downfall of the WraithTech website! > I an surprised none of you knew all this, it > happened right on the PLA list for all to > read! > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Devil3unny/Primalux definitely wasn't Luvox. They > were different ages, had > > different websites, lived in different states even > if memory serves. > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > From: "Nevar More" > > > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she > got a > > > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > > > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also > the name > > > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > > > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > > > > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r > m3! > > > > > > ===== > > > NevarMore > > > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > ===== > --—?e??Ø?uçK > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister > Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Thu Jun 06 23:35:02 2002 Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.189]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GAWk-0007Vf-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:35:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607033534.75437.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.32] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 20:35:34 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:35:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020607011450.45517.qmail@web20904.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: He told me all of this back when I first joined Wraithtech. (Having always been sort of a lone wolf, I'd never been part of a real, bona-fide hax0r group. I was quite touched...) We were talking via PalTalk, and he and LinERROR were having a good laugh over the revenge he'd just got on Luvox. So I asked what was so funny, and that's the story I got. GE was just gushing over LinERROR's Adobe prowess, and asked him to join Wraithtech too. Later, the two of them cooked up some sort of scheme whereby they were going to create a fictional hand-held device for connecting to the Paltalk network. I pointed out the silliness of using a microprocessor-driven device to connect to the internet via phone modem, just so you could make a phone call over the internet (why not just talk over the phone, if you're at a phone? Instead of talking into a device connected to a phone to use the internet to use a phone!). I think it was just a scam to try to con something out of the Paltalk people for free, because I don't think LinERROR really had the know-how to engineer a hand held computer. --- Nevar More wrote: > gee, he failed to mention any of this when he called > me at home and asked me to save his ass and the site. > > GE: i know youre still out there. come clean. > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, > > though different towns. > > > > GE told me that Luvox showed up at his front door > > (?) one day and said she needed a place > > to crash. Since he lived with his folks, he told her > > that was impossible, but supposedly > > gave her the addresses of some friends of his who > > might help her out. Then, he said, some > > regrettable 'events' occurred which he refused to > > expound upon (one might only wonder > > what those might be). Well, whatever happened led to > > an inevitable falling-out, after > > which GE posted her pic on the PLA board inviting > > any and all to have a crack at > > mutilating her image via Adobe. > > Of course, you throw a dog a bone... > > Several slanderous images were posted to the list, > > one being pornographic, depicting > > Luvox's head striped onto a porno star's body in a > > bathroom. > > GE claims he emailed this pic to her dad, saying > > that he had tried to stop her, but she > > had run away from home to take up with > > pornographers, and was the newest star of smut > > films. > > This, I believe was the occurence that led to the > > downfall of the WraithTech website! > > I an surprised none of you knew all this, it > > happened right on the PLA list for all to > > read! > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Devil3unny/Primalux definitely wasn't Luvox. They > > were different ages, had > > > different websites, lived in different states even > > if memory serves. > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Nevar More" > > > > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she > > got a > > > > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > > > > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also > > the name > > > > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > > > > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > > > > > > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r > > m3! > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > NevarMore > > > > > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—?e??Ø?uçK > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > > Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister > > Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From understep@shaw.ca Thu Jun 06 23:37:13 2002 Received: from h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net ([24.71.223.10] helo=pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GAYr-0007th-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:37:13 -0400 Received: from pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.213]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GXB0081RGQFXD@l-daemon> for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml2so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.146]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GXB00MGSGQG8T@l-daemon> for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:37:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from videon69257 (64-59-140-132.ivideon.com [64.59.140.132]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0GXB000HSGQEUA@l-daemon> for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:40:50 -0500 From: Understep To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Message-id: <000401c20dd5$1f1bb5a0$848c3b40@videon69257> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: High X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-priority: High Subject: [PLA_UPL] Mellenium Phone Manual Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I heard that a phone manual for those "fancy new phones" has been realeased on the internet: has anyone seen it or can tell me if it has any worthwhile information. "All Mennonites are frugal with the exception of me." From in_phase@juno.com Thu Jun 06 23:58:45 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GAtg-0003lB-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:58:44 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfeVXzhsPH8V7Z27MpWEyTVo1mGQ224dvEw=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4N2MYSW; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:58:40 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:01:41 MDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Message-ID: <20020606.220143.-102231.0.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7,9-14 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto Devil3unny lived in San Diego Luvox lived in San Jose and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. --- On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Colonel Panic writes: > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, though different > towns. > From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 00:05:41 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GB0O-00053Y-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:05:40 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607040613.14618.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.196] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:06:13 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:06:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020607011450.45517.qmail@web20904.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: He told me all of this back when I first joined Wraithtech. (Having always been sort of a lone wolf, I'd never been part of a real, bona-fide hax0r group. I was quite touched...) We were talking via PalTalk, and he and LinERROR were having a good laugh over the revenge he'd just got on Luvox. So I asked what was so funny, and that's the story I got. GE was just gushing over LinERROR's Adobe prowess, and asked him to join Wraithtech too. Later, the two of them cooked up some sort of scheme whereby they were going to create a fictional hand-held device for connecting to the Paltalk network. I pointed out the silliness of using a microprocessor-driven device to connect to the internet via phone modem, just so you could make a phone call over the internet (why not just talk over the phone, if you're at a phone? Instead of talking into a device connected to the phone to use the internet to make a phone call!). So I think it was just a scam to try to con something out of the Paltalk people for free, because I don't think LinERROR really had the engineering know-how to create a hand held computer. The only product they ever ended up really producing is a pic of the supposed device, that LinERROR whipped up in P-Shop, out of a photo of a TV remote or something. GE had told me LinERRoR was in possession of an EPROM burner, which is not entirely unfeasible--my dad had one back in the 1980's (we'd used it to pirate a copy of Microsoft Basic for our TRS-80, as it was burned onto ROMS) but it's unlikely he ever used it for that purpose. He did not know assembly language (as far as I could tell, from our few 'techy' conversations), and I had talked electronics with him a little, but he didn't sound too knowledgeable. Right around this time I had been working on improving my beige box for Hevnsent's "best beige box" contest, and I was describing to LinERROR a mechanism I was trying to develop for inter- facing a computer modem with a cordless phone handset, and he had no idea what a zenier diode was. So I assume the Paltalk handheld device was some sort of hoax, for what purpose I don't know for sure, but I imagine they were attempting to bluff something out of the Paltalk people for free. Who knows? That idea was really ridiculous, anyway. You know what GE said when I told him how absurd it was to use a handheld computer device at a phone to log on to the Internet to make phone calls? He said, "It's not for you to question why, it's just yours to do or die." Can you beleive that? Geez. --- Nevar More wrote: > gee, he failed to mention any of this when he called > me at home and asked me to save his ass and the site. > > GE: i know youre still out there. come clean. > > --- Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, > > though different towns. > > > > GE told me that Luvox showed up at his front door > > (?) one day and said she needed a place > > to crash. Since he lived with his folks, he told her > > that was impossible, but supposedly > > gave her the addresses of some friends of his who > > might help her out. Then, he said, some > > regrettable 'events' occurred which he refused to > > expound upon (one might only wonder > > what those might be). Well, whatever happened led to > > an inevitable falling-out, after > > which GE posted her pic on the PLA board inviting > > any and all to have a crack at > > mutilating her image via Adobe. > > Of course, you throw a dog a bone... > > Several slanderous images were posted to the list, > > one being pornographic, depicting > > Luvox's head striped onto a porno star's body in a > > bathroom. > > GE claims he emailed this pic to her dad, saying > > that he had tried to stop her, but she > > had run away from home to take up with > > pornographers, and was the newest star of smut > > films. > > This, I believe was the occurence that led to the > > downfall of the WraithTech website! > > I an surprised none of you knew all this, it > > happened right on the PLA list for all to > > read! > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > Devil3unny/Primalux definitely wasn't Luvox. They > > were different ages, had > > > different websites, lived in different states even > > if memory serves. > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > > From: "Nevar More" > > > > methinks the 'devil' might have been luvox. she > > got a > > > > hair up her ass about ge and trashed one of > > > > wraithtechs pages. oddly enough luvox is also > > the name > > > > of a really strong drug for schizophrenia IIRC, > > > > explains a LOT about that crazy biatch. > > > > > > > > shouldnt have said that, now shes ganna h4x0r > > m3! > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > NevarMore > > > > > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phonelosers mailing list > > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—?e??Ø?uçK > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the > > Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister > > Crowley > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 00:09:19 2002 Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.190]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GB3u-0005iC-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:09:18 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607040951.88531.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.196] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 21:09:51 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020606.220143.-102231.0.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Wow. How do you know that? Did you keep records of the people on the list back then? Can we maybe contact some of them? --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto > Devil3unny lived in San Diego > Luvox lived in San Jose > > and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. > > --- > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Colonel Panic > writes: > > > > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, though different > > towns. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Fri Jun 07 00:10:35 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GB58-00062Q-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:10:34 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g574B8i16248 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:11:08 -0400 Message-ID: <015101c20dd9$58a88a60$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020606.220143.-102231.0.in_phase@juno.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:11:06 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: > Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto > Devil3unny lived in San Diego > Luvox lived in San Jose > > and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. What's with all these people living in California? Why doesn't the country tip over or something? I'm lonely on the east cost. At least until h2k2. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From in_phase@juno.com Fri Jun 07 00:16:29 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GBAr-0007E5-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:16:29 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfeVXzhsPH8V7UAbaf7k9xNeSK03KL2aX5Q=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4N3NE59; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:16:23 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:19:15 MDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Message-ID: <20020606.221916.-102231.1.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-8,10-36 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Back in early 1999, people were on a kick to send their "info" to the list. I saved a few of those, and looked at the one from Luvox to remember where she was from. But I remember GE saying more than once that he was from the "slums" of Palo Alto. And a slum in Palo Alto means a neighborhood where the houses cost *under* $500,000. --- On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Colonel Panic writes: > Wow. How do you know that? Did you keep records of the people on the > list back then? > Can we maybe contact some of them? > > > --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > > Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto > > Devil3unny lived in San Diego > > Luvox lived in San Jose > > > > and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. > > > > --- > > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Colonel Panic > > writes: > > > > > > > > > I think they both lived in California, actually, though > different > > > towns. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list From punkrocknothing@msn.com Fri Jun 07 00:28:05 2002 Received: from f34.pav0.hotmail.com ([64.4.32.218] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GBM5-0000uv-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:28:05 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:28:36 -0700 Received: from 67.24.74.29 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:28:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.24.74.29] From: "linear !" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:28:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2002 04:28:36.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA68CD20:01C20DDB] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: linear@phonelosers.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Geez, RTF, of -course- we all live in Cali! if GANGSTA RAP has taught us nothing else (and it hasn't), it's that "there ain't no party like a west coast part, 'cuz a west coast party don't stop!" Sheesh. Now i remember why we're enemies, you PIGFUCKING BASTARD LOSER GUY I HATE YOOOU!!!11!!1!!@@!!!1111 linear http://www.phonelosers.net/linear AIM: itslinear Y!: the_linear ICQ: 42604993 MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com >From: "Rob T Firefly" >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: >returning message to sender (fwd)) >Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:11:06 -0400 > >From: > > Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto > > Devil3unny lived in San Diego > > Luvox lived in San Jose > > > > and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. > >What's with all these people living in California? Why doesn't the country >tip over or something? > >I'm lonely on the east cost. At least until h2k2. > > -- RTF >http://bounce.to/rtf >http://phonelosers.net >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From in_phase@juno.com Fri Jun 07 00:28:19 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GBMJ-0000wi-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:28:19 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfeVXzhsPH8V7M50BaBB8NWY5ztMIGAuzVA=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4N4BTJD; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:28:04 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:31:04 MDT Message-ID: <20020606.223105.-102231.2.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Subject: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:38:26 -0800 (PST) From: Luvox Phreak Hello everyone. I suppose you have all heard rumors about what has happened to me. First of all, I am NOT dead and I am currently at home. I ran away because my father was hitting me. I stayed at my friend's house for two days and came home. My father went out of town and my mother stole my computer and my phone and hide them. I owned my own stuff that I had paid for with my own money. So I used her computer to check my e-mail. She didn't like that too much so she had my grandfather come over and he began to hit me. I wouldn't do anything they said, so they called the police. They told the oinkers that I (I!!!!) had hit my mother. My mother then told the cops about my "hacking" and the police turned to me and said that us hackers are leeching on society. One of the cops even went so far to say "If you were my daughter, I would beat the crap out of you too." I was then handcuffed to the point of my wrists being cut by the cuffs (Let me point out that I never resisted or got violent with anyone) and then was taken to the "Emergency Psch Unit." After 7 hours of re-telling my story to everyone and showing them bruises and cuts, they determined that it was I who had been hit and my personality was not capable of violent behavior (Capable?). I then was asked to file child abuse reports against my father and grandfather. That was one of the hardest things I had ever done. I tried to call someone, but she wouldn't talk to me. I called Stephanie and she backstabbed me again. She had told my mom about me carding, She also accused me of hacking her AOL account (which I did NOT do) and she refused to talk to me when I needed her. I was eventually taken to a shelter and then taken home. I am currently at home. I don't talk to my grandfather and my dad is out of town for two weeks. There really isn't anything going on. == Luvox Phreak All for one and one for all. http://wwp.mirabilis.com/31873543 http://www.pagoo.com/me.asp?7526967968 My Pagoo PIN is: PLA-OWNS-YOU --- From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Fri Jun 07 00:32:48 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GBQd-0001pK-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 00:32:47 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g574XLi22415 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: <029a01c20ddc$7229bf60$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:33:17 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Eastside, muthafaku! EASTSIDE!!!!@#$%^& From: "linear !" > Geez, RTF, of -course- we all live in Cali! if GANGSTA RAP has taught us > nothing else (and it hasn't), it's that "there ain't no party like a west > coast part, 'cuz a west coast party don't stop!" > > Sheesh. Now i remember why we're enemies, you PIGFUCKING BASTARD LOSER GUY I > HATE YOOOU!!!11!!1!!@@!!!1111 > > linear > http://www.phonelosers.net/linear > AIM: itslinear > Y!: the_linear > ICQ: 42604993 > MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com > > >From: "Rob T Firefly" > >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: > >returning message to sender (fwd)) > >Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:11:06 -0400 > > > >From: > > > Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto > > > Devil3unny lived in San Diego > > > Luvox lived in San Jose > > > > > > and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. > > > >What's with all these people living in California? Why doesn't the country > >tip over or something? > > > >I'm lonely on the east cost. At least until h2k2. > > > > -- RTF > >http://bounce.to/rtf > >http://phonelosers.net > >AIM - Rob T Firefly From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Fri Jun 07 01:14:09 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GC4f-0005mI-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 01:14:09 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g575Ehi01058 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:14:43 -0400 Message-ID: <02b201c20de2$352e6c40$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020606.223105.-102231.2.in_phase@juno.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:14:24 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. > -------------------------------- Heh, who needs list archives when you've got In Phase? For historical value, the latest homepage link I have for Luvox is: http://www.geocities.com/iristheangel/index.html There's nothing there now, but you can get kind of a look at what used to be there, minus images, at the good ol' web archive. Check out: http://web.archive.org/web/20010429063311/http://www.geocities.com/iristhean gel/index.html -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Fri Jun 07 02:42:30 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GDSA-0007zd-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 02:42:30 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g576h1c14709 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 06:43:01 GMT Received: (qmail 22829 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jun 2002 06:43:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20020607064301.22828.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.58.45] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:43:01 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:43:01 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.58.45 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Isnt this like the second time this story has been rehashed into long boring stupid posts? Are you killing your brain cells that fast? We already have rich white-boy trying to get back at his parents by acting like hes punk and anti-government posting daily, thats bad enough. Now back to the same EXACT old boring posts, same old boring content, same old boring people. BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! and I dont want to hear that "i wasnt on the list then" bullshit, because I remember each and everyone of you. Next time you hear someone say "this is where brain cells are killed", dont enter. You might actually remember things. _________________________ This friendly neighborhood message, brought to you by your friendly neighborhood neighbor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob T Firefly" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:14:24 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history > From: > > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. > > -------------------------------- > > Heh, who needs list archives when you've got In Phase? > > For historical value, the latest homepage link I have for Luvox is: > > http://www.geocities.com/iristheangel/index.html > > There's nothing there now, but you can get kind of a look at what used to be > there, minus images, at the good ol' web archive. Check out: > http://web.archive.org/web/20010429063311/http://www.geocities.com/iristhean > gel/index.html > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From meggito@hotmail.com Fri Jun 07 08:25:34 2002 Received: from f272.law9.hotmail.com ([64.4.8.147] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GIoA-0001hX-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:25:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 05:26:07 -0700 Received: from 151.188.28.249 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 12:26:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.188.28.249] From: "Nathaniel Wilson" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:26:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2002 12:26:07.0716 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FE29A40:01C20E1E] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >OK I think you took some of what I said the wrong way. I >didn't mean to assault you personally. I guess I am just >rather passionate about these kinds of subjects. Let me >clarify my position. > > > I agree. I also hope it isn't true. > > Well, although it is true that (philosophically speaking) >we can't be sure of the existence of anything beyond what >we personally experience with our own 5 senses (and even >those, being imperfect, are not 100% reliable, and our own >cognitive interpretation of what we see is likewise fall- >ible, yadda yadda... etc), you know that argument, as >the Simpsons' family lawyer Lionel Hutz presented it,"But >what IS truth, if you catch my meaning...". > We cannot be everywhere at all times in order to eye- >witness world events as they happen, nor should we endanger >ourselves unduly by travelling to dangerous places just to >keep abreast of daily occurrences, so then we utilize the >news services. Now as to which news services we choose to >rely upon, I agree that the mainstream American network >news system (the Associated Press, International Press >wire services and their regional affiliates) might not be >100% reliable, and their affiliates' (most owned by major >corporations, except perhaps for public radio and TV) >reportage may carry a partisan or pro-U.S. Government and >pro-big business stance, despite what many Republicans >will tell you about a 'liberal media.' But where do we >turn for news? The BBC? They have the same problems as >the news services based in the U.S. Other countries, >European or Asian news services? Well, I would think it >depends on what country you are looking from news about. >If you are looking for news concerning a country in Asia, >for instance Tibet, why not go straight to a Tibetan >newspaper? I would imagine there must be some English- >language Tibetan news resource on the Internet. Trouble is, >you would have to research it a little to make sure it is >not promoted or owned by the PRC as a propaganda-mill. So, read the assorted variety and find consistancy and inconsistancy. No side is ever completely unbiased. There are, however, patterns of truth and outstanding contradictions from individual news sources. Often American news sources report things that others almost esclusively disagree with, whether it be European, Chinese, Arabic, or Latin American. > As all this regards the issue at hand, the events of Sept. >11, 2001: on the 11th, as it happened I immediately searched >online for all info I could get about the tragedy. For weeks >afterwards, I scoured the web for news stories, and no major, >widely respected source I read reported any stories con- >flicting with the account that airplanes had crashed into >both WTC towers AND the Pentagon. The groups claiming respon- >sibility for the attack was an issue for several days, even >after the U.S. Gov't announced it figured it was Bin Laden, >and after the U.S. went public with its main issues that led >suspicion to the Saudi multimillionaire, most reputable news >sources were in agreement that this was the truth. I am still not sure what led the US to beleive it was Osama Bin Laden. It may very well have been, but minutes after the towers feel his name was appearing. I just fear that he is being used as the first available scapegoat and our government felt a need to act to assure America. At this point, most information has pointed directly at him and/or his group. I feel fairly safe, now, in finding him responsible for the events, but the evidence beforehand seemed to little to act upon. > This is the basis upon which I formed by beliefs. I am not >about to beleive some kook with a Web page and no better >'evidence' than a bunch of screen-res photos culled from the >internet with airplanes photoshopped over them no matter what >country he's from, or how cynically-worded his website, or how >cool that sideways-scrolley thing was. I think almost everyone is in agreement the website you mention is filled with ignorance and unfounded accusations. Many, if not all, of the arguements provided from said site are nonsensical. > Robert Anton Wilson, an author widely recognized as an >expert on conspiracy theories (he has written at least one >great sci-fi novel series lampooning the idea of a world >controlled by secret societies, and many interesting treatises >and books on the phenomenon of those who see (or pretend to) >illogical connections between unconnected and or coincidental >events and imagine impossibly vast, far-reaching conspiracies >to account for them) says that you must draw a line as to what >trust you are going place in your sources to accept your data >(news) as truth. If you call the New York Times (for example) >a liar, then you must ask yourself, is the agency where I am >getting my news less- or more-biased than the New York Times? >If you choose to beleive some guy who has a Web page on the >internet with cynical, rhetorical-sounding copy, and no >credible sources, no system of error-reportage, etc. over an >established news source of many decades (well over a century) >which has a worldwide readership, and publicly runs announce- >ments (errata) when they have been found to have made factual >errors in their stories, then you must ask yourself,"why? could >it be that I prefer to disbelieve the established news sources? >and why is that? am I following some agenda here, and only >seeing that which supports that agenda, that which I want to >believe?" It is best to simply come to the conclusion that everyone is biased. At that point you can begin to look beyond it and find the facts. The largest problem is that people prefer to read news sources that reaffirm their beleifs rather than those who may disagree. This practice, with no reason to beleive it will be stopped, only breeds ignorance and bias. > I try to employ critical thinking to the data I encounter in >my daily life. For that reason, I often see things in the news >that infuriate me, in their stupidity, short-sightedness, or >worse, their villainous exploitation of the lethargy and pas- >sivity of the majority of the populace. It is because of this >search for the truth and the conclusions it has brought me to >that I hold the political beliefs that I do. I try not, however >to let my political beliefs and my anger over injustice and >ignorance color my judgement or influence my perceptions of >the world around me. You must be careful lest your anger lead >you to make presumptions for which there is no evidence. Once >you start listening to crackpots, the battle for the truth is >lost. Generally, I agree. But, all my convictions are those which I have discovered on my own. I listen and observe everything from mainstream media to the crackpots, and rarely agree with either. Everyone has to examine the issues and find their own conclusions. > > Yes, childish, incite outrage, so on. Sorry for having an opinion. But > > whats worse is calling an opinion childish and so on without giving any > > reason other than because you said so. You are entitled to your say, >but at > > least explain your reasoning for the name calling, which I thought was > > fairly uncalled for. > >I did not say that your OPINION was childish, nor did I call >YOU childish. What I said was, that the, "wish to incite outrage >from anybody with any basic integrity or compassion" was childish. >And it is. Imagine if it was one of YOUR family members, a sister >or brother perhaps, or a parent who got killed on an airplane on >his/her way to California on vacation or something. You'd be pretty >pissed, and hurt. Well, to deny that such an outrage against our >entire country even happened shows a fair bit of cynical political >bias. Being American is not something we all can help. We were born >here, and, like it or not, it is a defining part of who we are. >Whether we agree with the policies of our government or not, we must >have compassion for our countrymen who are killed--ON OUR OWN SOIL, >no less, by radical political extremists from another country, >mustn't we? I think you'd be singing a different tune if it'd been >one of your family or friends killed by those assholes. Yes, I would be pissed and hurt. I do not, however, think that we should systematically eliminate our civil rights and punish the innocent of other countries out of vengence. No, none of my family was killed, thus I do not have the extremist blood lust and anger felt by many of those who lost friends and family. Their loss does not make them right, it only makes them more fanatic in their hunt for what they dub terror. > And the fact is, I agree with the Palestinians that Israel should >encourage its people NOT to settle in Palestinian areas of the West >Bank, and NOT offer financial incentives for Israelis who open their >businesses outside the state of Israel. Encouraging Israeli economic >growth in Palestinian areas is tantamount to government-sanctioned >colonialism or imperialism. They are expanding their state's borders >by giving their people economic advantage over citizens of another, >bordering nation and thereby, controlling influence over Palestinian >territories, mile-by-mile, block-by-block. Then, when the Palestin- >ians fight back in the only way they know, having no military, they >are deemed 'terrorists' and 'enemies of the world.' And the U.S. >gives Israel billions every year in economic and military aid to >encourage this practice. > It is my general beleif that the creation of Israel was one of the worst mistakes in recent history. It was not their land, it was not their place. They milked the holocaust (horrible as it was) so that they could create their own zionist state. It is the Palestinians land, not theirs. Before they lived peacefully side by side. Then the European Jews (not Semites!) came and pushed the Palestinians (who are Semites) off their land. I do have a biased view. I have the view because the family of a friend of mine was pushed out of their home, their valuables were taken, and they were eventually forced to leave their homeland. Oh, and they have pictures. Of their house, their general belongings, and their son proudly wearing the Israeli uniform when he helped them defend their country. But that was before. > > Ok, fine, let's say the pentagon was an unfair target (which I don't >agree > > with). What about the Cole? How is attacking a warship, manned by >those in > > the armed forces, terrorism? How the hell is that not a legitimate >target? > > Nothing they attack would be legitimate. Every action they take will be > > labeled as terrorism. At least a few Americans notice that the Israels >call > > the Palestinians, defending their towns, homes, and family, terrorists. > > But, with a little help from the mass media, we don't see it happening >in > > our own country. Blowing up a warship should in no way be regarded as > > terrorism. Attacking the national military headquarters should not be > > miscontrued as terrorism. What remorse do we feel for those 'civilians' >who > > design weapons for the bad guys. Those who sell weapons to the bad guys >are > > arms dealers. They sell them to the US and they're contracters. But, > > nothing is wrong with the accidental killing of an illegal arms dealer. > > Noone cares if we take down a few of their radio men, but someone takes >down > > a few of our 'civilian' guys from signals and its terrorism. > >Signals is a military corps. It is not civilian. Yes. But the vast majority of those who work in signals are 'civilians', in that they are not members of the armed forces, though they work for them. My step-mother worked for signals for quite a while and she hasn't been in the Navy sense she couldn't make Master Cheif (or whatever the new title is). I've been down there more than once, and the majority of those who work their are civilians. Signals is military, but is staffed by civilians. Now, how those 'civilians', many of whom help institute the killing of thousands, can not be considered military personel is quite beyond me. >And I never said the attack on the Cole was not fair. But, it occurred >in another nation's waters, a nation friendly to the U.S. So it was a >violation of International Law if it was carried out by a government >explicitly, but it wasn't. It was an attack by an armed insurgent group. >This still falls under the heading of terrorism. It is still barbaric, >because our world is supposed to operate under certain rules. For >instance, if a government attacks another country's territory, embassy, >holdings, etc. It is considered an act of war. So war is declared upon >the offending country. But if it is done by an agency outside a >government (but perhaps covertly receiving aid from a government) it is >a criminal act, eg. terrorism, and unless a link can be proven between >the group and the 'harboring' or supporting country, war can not be >declared legally and the deed goes unpunished. That is the difference. >Thing is, our country's revolution was started by terrorism. It >eventually led to war, and we beat the British fairly but it started >with, basically, terrorism. We have a 'War on Terror'. We are at war with them. Their attacking of millitary targets, however you label it, is legitimate. It is criminal because as a government we say it is, and then we say that because they aren't a government they have no say in the manner. The difference between war and terrorism is simple. In war you attack someones military targets to ruin their defenses and ability to make war on others. In terrorism you attack civilian or economical targets to instill fear (terror) and drive them into poverty, respectively. I would also disagree that our founding fathers practiced terrorism. Their goal was independance (well, it was equal rights and they were forced into declaring independance for them when they would have rather stayed part of the British Empire, but I digress). They did not attack innocents (usually), they did not make an effort to instill fear. They practiced guerilla tactics because they worked. They killed the British because it was the only method for independance. They made war, though in modern international law they could not because they were not a government. Then again, in modern international law you cannot declare war on anyone other than a government, and we've done a good job of declaring one on Bin Ladin, Al Qeuda, and what we call terrorism in general. > > > > To begin with, the tapes were blatantly fake. Tell the US to release a > > digital god damn copy next time. Meanwhile, the Europeans have done a >good > > job of poking holes in the integrity of the first tape, and blatantly > > disproving the second. Then again, if you watch US media for your news >you > > wouldn't have ever heard about it. Oh, and before you start talking >about > > the 'Islamic laws governing how to conduct Jihad' you really need to sit > > down and read the Holy Koran. I've read it, and I still wouldn't claim >to > > understand Islamic law better than those who practice it. > > > > I don't see how you can say categorically that the tapes were >fake. As I stated above, where is your evidence? When you say >"The Europeans disproved this," which Europeans do you mean? >The British? The French? The Germans? And whom, in which of >these countries? Was it a major Swiss newspaper that published >this evidence, or was it the rhetoric of some extremist Islamic >group in rural Turkey? Because in all my travels on the Internet, >(where I assume you heard this info) I have never seen any con- >vincing evidence they were fake. I have heard allegations from >Egyptian news services to that effect, but I am not inclined to >beleive them, simply because they are biased in an anti-American >angle. It is precisely for this reason that I do not beleive them, >aside from their conspicuous lack of evidence. Show me the >original tapes that were supposedly altered to create the >ones we saw on the news and on the Internet. I even asked a >friend of mine who speaks Arabic to tell me if what they >were saying on the tape matched the translation. He told me >that roughly, yes it was correct. Mainstream European news sources. Especially the western and northern Europeans. The Japanese also pointed out many of the same errors and unlikely coincidences. > And what do you mean by a 'digital copy'? These were video- >tapes, found in homes in Afghanistan. How do you know the >original copies were digitally taped and not analog? It was digitally taped. Their are dozens of items in the tapes that show it was so. Even American sources got that one right. They didn't, however, make any effort to have the government release a copy so it could be authenticated. At this point, enough time has passed that it is very likely the government could, if it wanted to, create a tape that would pass as real. Their was a large call, from Europeans and many Americans to release a digital copy immediately. This call escaped the newspapers. >I have read much of the Koran. I had to, for a class in school >called, "World Religions: Middle East" and we discussed Islam >in great depth, as well as the religions practiced in the Middle >East and Northern Africa prior to the rise of Islam in the 7th >century. Also, I have several friends who are practicing >Muslims, (I did drive a taxicab in a major American city for >over five years) some are very devout, and they are not >terrorists. In fact they are every bit as disgusted by the >actions of these assholes as I am. You will recall from your >study of The Koran, that it describes three types of Jihad (or >'struggle'); that Jihad which a man conducts within himself, >essentially the battle between right (good) and the inpulse to >act in one's own service to the detriment of others (evil), the >Jihad carried out within the Islamic community among different >ideologies as to which one is the true will of Allah, and the >Jihad between the Islamic community and the non-Islamic community >within an Islamic state. There is nothing in the Koran to condone >killing other innocent Muslims in the interest of Jihad. If you >had read your Koran closely, you would have noticed that. Perhaps >yours is not an accurate translation of the original Kufic? I don't have my copy with me. It was provided by a mosque (free of charge) and I assume it to be accurate. Their is a passage that says simply to have a Jihad against non-beleivers (most specifically the Meccans) until oppression was ended AND everyone followed the true religion. This is contradicted greatly during much of the rest of the Koran, but so are quite a few other things. For example, their prophet did not condone violence, but was very much a warlord himself. He constantly went to war to expand his religion, and, in turn, his power/ > No, those people are not any more exemplary of Muslims than the >idiots who bomb abortion clinics are of Christians. They are just >criminals. I am in no hurry to justify the abhorrent acts of >any society. I agree that they aren't exemplary of Muslims when they commit acts such as attacking the World Trade Center. I still hold to my beleif that the Pentagon, the Cole, and other military targets are legitimate and that the goal of attacking these targets is to hurt the American military and not instill fear. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From brad_the_carter@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 10:41:13 2002 Received: from web14202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.144]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GKvR-0002Lj-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 10:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607144149.72578.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.176.168.162] by web14202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:41:49 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Carter Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020606.223105.-102231.2.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: brad_the_carter@yahoo.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. Defend herself against what? I think the last time I talked to Luvox was sometime last summer. She used to call our house occasionally and chat but I haven't heard from her for awile now. She was living in Provo, UT last summer but I think she was talking to moving to California again. I'm sure she'll turn up on this list again someday soon. http://www.phonelosers.org/phonelosers.com/index.html has an article about her leaving the list but there's no date on the article. ===== My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 16:19:05 2002 Received: from web20901.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.223]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GQCP-00021X-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:19:05 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607201942.14671.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 13:19:42 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:19:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <029a01c20ddc$7229bf60$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Fuck ya'll! Midwest is the shit y0! Ohio is where the party is at. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Eastside, muthafaku! EASTSIDE!!!!@#$%^& > ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Fri Jun 07 17:17:14 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GR6g-0006G9-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:17:14 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g57LHoc10040 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 21:17:50 GMT Received: (qmail 22768 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jun 2002 21:17:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020607211750.22767.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.31.66] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 05:17:50 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 05:17:50 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.31.66 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I bet those cow tipping parties can get wild! ----- Original Message ----- From: Nevar More Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:19:42 -0700 (PDT) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) > Fuck ya'll! Midwest is the shit y0! Ohio is where the > party is at. > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Eastside, muthafaku! EASTSIDE!!!!@#$%^& > > > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From empire_monkey@hotmail.com Fri Jun 07 18:36:56 2002 Received: from f183.law7.hotmail.com ([216.33.237.183] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GSLo-0007zd-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:36:56 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:37:33 -0700 Received: from 4.64.117.58 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:37:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.64.117.58] From: "Empire Monkey" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] best IRC client Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:37:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2002 22:37:33.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA6439A0:01C20E73] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: agreed, XiRCON is the best client >From: "pyro sawp" >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] best IRC client >Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 05:49:40 +0800 > >XiRCON > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Nevar More >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) >To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: [PLA_UPL] best IRC client > > > > ok, thanks to my goddamn allergies my eyes burn and i > > had to leave work early. so ive decided to distract > > myself from that pain with a bigger one, im going back > > on to IRC. > > > > whats the best client? im running XP Pro Corporate > > (Build 2600) if that affects your opinion any. > > > > ===== > > NevarMore > > > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > > >-- >__________________________________________________ >Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com > > > >Powered by Outblaze > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From empire_monkey@hotmail.com Fri Jun 07 18:44:57 2002 Received: from f170.law7.hotmail.com ([216.33.237.170] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GSTZ-0001L1-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:44:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:45:34 -0700 Received: from 4.64.117.58 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:45:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.64.117.58] From: "Empire Monkey" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 18:45:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2002 22:45:34.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[08FF0B50:01C20E75] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: i have to say something. BBC and Reuters are far less reliable, and far less respectible in the way they operate with respects to REAL people and REAL events and how it really affects us than any mainstream american news network (AP, NBC, CNN, etc). Honestly Reuters has probably made more people hate the American government with its media privelage than the government itself has. Heh seems Colonel Panic is the only person that sees political/military/world events from the same direction I do, or so at least it seems in his posts. >From: Colonel Panic >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com >To: phonelosers@wearehope.com >Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( >Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) > >OK I think you took some of what I said the wrong way. I >didn't mean to assault you personally. I guess I am just >rather passionate about these kinds of subjects. Let me >clarify my position. > > > I agree. I also hope it isn't true. > > Well, although it is true that (philosophically speaking) >we can't be sure of the existence of anything beyond what >we personally experience with our own 5 senses (and even >those, being imperfect, are not 100% reliable, and our own >cognitive interpretation of what we see is likewise fall- >ible, yadda yadda... etc), you know that argument, as >the Simpsons' family lawyer Lionel Hutz presented it,"But >what IS truth, if you catch my meaning...". > We cannot be everywhere at all times in order to eye- >witness world events as they happen, nor should we endanger >ourselves unduly by travelling to dangerous places just to >keep abreast of daily occurrences, so then we utilize the >news services. Now as to which news services we choose to >rely upon, I agree that the mainstream American network >news system (the Associated Press, International Press >wire services and their regional affiliates) might not be >100% reliable, and their affiliates' (most owned by major >corporations, except perhaps for public radio and TV) >reportage may carry a partisan or pro-U.S. Government and >pro-big business stance, despite what many Republicans >will tell you about a 'liberal media.' But where do we >turn for news? The BBC? They have the same problems as >the news services based in the U.S. Other countries, >European or Asian news services? Well, I would think it >depends on what country you are looking from news about. >If you are looking for news concerning a country in Asia, >for instance Tibet, why not go straight to a Tibetan >newspaper? I would imagine there must be some English- >language Tibetan news resource on the Internet. Trouble is, >you would have to research it a little to make sure it is >not promoted or owned by the PRC as a propaganda-mill. > As all this regards the issue at hand, the events of Sept. >11, 2001: on the 11th, as it happened I immediately searched >online for all info I could get about the tragedy. For weeks >afterwards, I scoured the web for news stories, and no major, >widely respected source I read reported any stories con- >flicting with the account that airplanes had crashed into >both WTC towers AND the Pentagon. The groups claiming respon- >sibility for the attack was an issue for several days, even >after the U.S. Gov't announced it figured it was Bin Laden, >and after the U.S. went public with its main issues that led >suspicion to the Saudi multimillionaire, most reputable news >sources were in agreement that this was the truth. > This is the basis upon which I formed by beliefs. I am not >about to beleive some kook with a Web page and no better >'evidence' than a bunch of screen-res photos culled from the >internet with airplanes photoshopped over them no matter what >country he's from, or how cynically-worded his website, or how >cool that sideways-scrolley thing was. > > Robert Anton Wilson, an author widely recognized as an >expert on conspiracy theories (he has written at least one >great sci-fi novel series lampooning the idea of a world >controlled by secret societies, and many interesting treatises >and books on the phenomenon of those who see (or pretend to) >illogical connections between unconnected and or coincidental >events and imagine impossibly vast, far-reaching conspiracies >to account for them) says that you must draw a line as to what >trust you are going place in your sources to accept your data >(news) as truth. If you call the New York Times (for example) >a liar, then you must ask yourself, is the agency where I am >getting my news less- or more-biased than the New York Times? >If you choose to beleive some guy who has a Web page on the >internet with cynical, rhetorical-sounding copy, and no >credible sources, no system of error-reportage, etc. over an >established news source of many decades (well over a century) >which has a worldwide readership, and publicly runs announce- >ments (errata) when they have been found to have made factual >errors in their stories, then you must ask yourself,"why? could >it be that I prefer to disbelieve the established news sources? >and why is that? am I following some agenda here, and only >seeing that which supports that agenda, that which I want to >believe?" > > I try to employ critical thinking to the data I encounter in >my daily life. For that reason, I often see things in the news >that infuriate me, in their stupidity, short-sightedness, or >worse, their villainous exploitation of the lethargy and pas- >sivity of the majority of the populace. It is because of this >search for the truth and the conclusions it has brought me to >that I hold the political beliefs that I do. I try not, however >to let my political beliefs and my anger over injustice and >ignorance color my judgement or influence my perceptions of >the world around me. You must be careful lest your anger lead >you to make presumptions for which there is no evidence. Once >you start listening to crackpots, the battle for the truth is >lost. > > > Yes, childish, incite outrage, so on. Sorry for having an opinion. But > > whats worse is calling an opinion childish and so on without giving any > > reason other than because you said so. You are entitled to your say, >but at > > least explain your reasoning for the name calling, which I thought was > > fairly uncalled for. > >I did not say that your OPINION was childish, nor did I call >YOU childish. What I said was, that the, "wish to incite outrage >from anybody with any basic integrity or compassion" was childish. >And it is. Imagine if it was one of YOUR family members, a sister >or brother perhaps, or a parent who got killed on an airplane on >his/her way to California on vacation or something. You'd be pretty >pissed, and hurt. Well, to deny that such an outrage against our >entire country even happened shows a fair bit of cynical political >bias. Being American is not something we all can help. We were born >here, and, like it or not, it is a defining part of who we are. >Whether we agree with the policies of our government or not, we must >have compassion for our countrymen who are killed--ON OUR OWN SOIL, >no less, by radical political extremists from another country, >mustn't we? I think you'd be singing a different tune if it'd been >one of your family or friends killed by those assholes. > And the fact is, I agree with the Palestinians that Israel should >encourage its people NOT to settle in Palestinian areas of the West >Bank, and NOT offer financial incentives for Israelis who open their >businesses outside the state of Israel. Encouraging Israeli economic >growth in Palestinian areas is tantamount to government-sanctioned >colonialism or imperialism. They are expanding their state's borders >by giving their people economic advantage over citizens of another, >bordering nation and thereby, controlling influence over Palestinian >territories, mile-by-mile, block-by-block. Then, when the Palestin- >ians fight back in the only way they know, having no military, they >are deemed 'terrorists' and 'enemies of the world.' And the U.S. >gives Israel billions every year in economic and military aid to >encourage this practice. > > > > Ok, fine, let's say the pentagon was an unfair target (which I don't >agree > > with). What about the Cole? How is attacking a warship, manned by >those in > > the armed forces, terrorism? How the hell is that not a legitimate >target? > > Nothing they attack would be legitimate. Every action they take will be > > labeled as terrorism. At least a few Americans notice that the Israels >call > > the Palestinians, defending their towns, homes, and family, terrorists. > > But, with a little help from the mass media, we don't see it happening >in > > our own country. Blowing up a warship should in no way be regarded as > > terrorism. Attacking the national military headquarters should not be > > miscontrued as terrorism. What remorse do we feel for those 'civilians' >who > > design weapons for the bad guys. Those who sell weapons to the bad guys >are > > arms dealers. They sell them to the US and they're contracters. But, > > nothing is wrong with the accidental killing of an illegal arms dealer. > > Noone cares if we take down a few of their radio men, but someone takes >down > > a few of our 'civilian' guys from signals and its terrorism. > >Signals is a military corps. It is not civilian. >And I never said the attack on the Cole was not fair. But, it occurred >in another nation's waters, a nation friendly to the U.S. So it was a >violation of International Law if it was carried out by a government >explicitly, but it wasn't. It was an attack by an armed insurgent group. >This still falls under the heading of terrorism. It is still barbaric, >because our world is supposed to operate under certain rules. For >instance, if a government attacks another country's territory, embassy, >holdings, etc. It is considered an act of war. So war is declared upon >the offending country. But if it is done by an agency outside a >government (but perhaps covertly receiving aid from a government) it is >a criminal act, eg. terrorism, and unless a link can be proven between >the group and the 'harboring' or supporting country, war can not be >declared legally and the deed goes unpunished. That is the difference. >Thing is, our country's revolution was started by terrorism. It >eventually led to war, and we beat the British fairly but it started >with, basically, terrorism. > > > > > To begin with, the tapes were blatantly fake. Tell the US to release a > > digital god damn copy next time. Meanwhile, the Europeans have done a >good > > job of poking holes in the integrity of the first tape, and blatantly > > disproving the second. Then again, if you watch US media for your news >you > > wouldn't have ever heard about it. Oh, and before you start talking >about > > the 'Islamic laws governing how to conduct Jihad' you really need to sit > > down and read the Holy Koran. I've read it, and I still wouldn't claim >to > > understand Islamic law better than those who practice it. > > > > I don't see how you can say categorically that the tapes were >fake. As I stated above, where is your evidence? When you say >"The Europeans disproved this," which Europeans do you mean? >The British? The French? The Germans? And whom, in which of >these countries? Was it a major Swiss newspaper that published >this evidence, or was it the rhetoric of some extremist Islamic >group in rural Turkey? Because in all my travels on the Internet, >(where I assume you heard this info) I have never seen any con- >vincing evidence they were fake. I have heard allegations from >Egyptian news services to that effect, but I am not inclined to >beleive them, simply because they are biased in an anti-American >angle. It is precisely for this reason that I do not beleive them, >aside from their conspicuous lack of evidence. Show me the >original tapes that were supposedly altered to create the >ones we saw on the news and on the Internet. I even asked a >friend of mine who speaks Arabic to tell me if what they >were saying on the tape matched the translation. He told me >that roughly, yes it was correct. > And what do you mean by a 'digital copy'? These were video- >tapes, found in homes in Afghanistan. How do you know the >original copies were digitally taped and not analog? > >I have read much of the Koran. I had to, for a class in school >called, "World Religions: Middle East" and we discussed Islam >in great depth, as well as the religions practiced in the Middle >East and Northern Africa prior to the rise of Islam in the 7th >century. Also, I have several friends who are practicing >Muslims, (I did drive a taxicab in a major American city for >over five years) some are very devout, and they are not >terrorists. In fact they are every bit as disgusted by the >actions of these assholes as I am. You will recall from your >study of The Koran, that it describes three types of Jihad (or >'struggle'); that Jihad which a man conducts within himself, >essentially the battle between right (good) and the inpulse to >act in one's own service to the detriment of others (evil), the >Jihad carried out within the Islamic community among different >ideologies as to which one is the true will of Allah, and the >Jihad between the Islamic community and the non-Islamic community >within an Islamic state. There is nothing in the Koran to condone >killing other innocent Muslims in the interest of Jihad. If you >had read your Koran closely, you would have noticed that. Perhaps >yours is not an accurate translation of the original Kufic? > No, those people are not any more exemplary of Muslims than the >idiots who bomb abortion clinics are of Christians. They are just >criminals. I am in no hurry to justify the abhorrent acts of >any society. > > > >===== >--—┼eК₪ØمuçK > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley >___________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Phonelosers mailing list >Phonelosers@wearehope.com >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 19:04:30 2002 Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.190]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GSmU-0005RB-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607230508.61241.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.132.21] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:05:08 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:05:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Speak for yrself, Lin! YOU mayn't have learned anything else from Gangsta Rap, but I have learned, in addition, that: "There's three types of people in the world, those who don't know what happened, Those who wonder what happened, and people from the streets that MAKE things happen", and "Damn, it feels good to be a Gangsta" --- linear ! wrote: > Geez, RTF, of -course- we all live in Cali! if GANGSTA RAP has taught us > nothing else (and it hasn't), it's that "there ain't no party like a west > coast part, 'cuz a west coast party don't stop!" > > Sheesh. Now i remember why we're enemies, you PIGFUCKING BASTARD LOSER GUY I > HATE YOOOU!!!11!!1!!@@!!!1111 > > linear > http://www.phonelosers.net/linear > AIM: itslinear > Y!: the_linear > ICQ: 42604993 > MSN: punkrocknothing@msn.com > > >From: "Rob T Firefly" > >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: > >returning message to sender (fwd)) > >Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:11:06 -0400 > > > >From: > > > Goldeneye lived in Palo Alto > > > Devil3unny lived in San Diego > > > Luvox lived in San Jose > > > > > > and "lived" doesn't necessarily mean past tense. > > > >What's with all these people living in California? Why doesn't the country > >tip over or something? > > > >I'm lonely on the east cost. At least until h2k2. > > > > -- RTF > >http://bounce.to/rtf > >http://phonelosers.net > >AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Phonelosers mailing list > >Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 19:13:00 2002 Received: from web11206.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.188]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GSuh-00070P-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:13:00 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607231337.48148.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.132.21] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:13:37 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020606.223105.-102231.2.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hmmm, I don't remember ever reading that before. The story I posted came from GE, so I cannot vouch for its veracity. I was merely relating the story as it was told to me. --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. > -------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:38:26 -0800 (PST) > > From: Luvox Phreak > > Hello everyone. I suppose you have all heard rumors about what has > happened to me. First of all, I am NOT dead and I am currently at > home. I ran away because my father was hitting me. I stayed at my > friend's house for two days and came home. My father went out of town > and my mother stole my computer and my phone and hide them. I owned my > own stuff that I had paid for with my own money. So I used her > computer to check my e-mail. She didn't like that too much so she had > my grandfather come over and he began to hit me. I wouldn't do > anything they said, so they called the police. They told the oinkers > that I (I!!!!) had hit my mother. My mother then told the cops about > my "hacking" and the police turned to me and said that us hackers are > leeching on society. One of the cops even went so far to say "If you > were my daughter, I would beat the crap out of you too." I was then > handcuffed to the point of my wrists being cut by the cuffs (Let me > point out that I never resisted or got violent with anyone) and then > was taken to the "Emergency Psch Unit." After 7 hours of re-telling my > story to everyone and showing them bruises and cuts, they determined > that it was I who had been hit and my personality was not capable of > violent behavior (Capable?). I then was asked to file child abuse > reports against my father and grandfather. That was one of the hardest > things I had ever done. I tried to call someone, but she wouldn't talk > to me. I called Stephanie and she backstabbed me again. She had told > my mom about me carding, She also accused me of hacking her AOL > account (which I did NOT do) and she refused to talk to me when I > needed her. I was eventually taken to a shelter and then taken home. I > am currently at home. I don't talk to my grandfather and my dad is out > of town for two weeks. There really isn't anything going on. > == > Luvox Phreak > All for one and one for all. > http://wwp.mirabilis.com/31873543 > http://www.pagoo.com/me.asp?7526967968 > My Pagoo PIN is: PLA-OWNS-YOU > > --- > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 19:15:31 2002 Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.187]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GSx9-0007bO-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:15:31 -0400 Message-ID: <20020607231610.80345.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.132.21] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:16:10 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <02b201c20de2$352e6c40$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Um, both of those links were dead, man... --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: > > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. > > -------------------------------- > > Heh, who needs list archives when you've got In Phase? > > For historical value, the latest homepage link I have for Luvox is: > > http://www.geocities.com/iristheangel/index.html > > There's nothing there now, but you can get kind of a look at what used to be > there, minus images, at the good ol' web archive. Check out: > http://web.archive.org/web/20010429063311/http://www.geocities.com/iristhean > gel/index.html > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From NetMaster7@aol.com Fri Jun 07 19:35:55 2002 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.102]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GTGt-0001oP-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:35:55 -0400 Received: from NetMaster7@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.16.204a65cc (30951) for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:36:25 -0400 (EDT) From: NetMaster7@aol.com Message-ID: <16.204a65cc.2a329d78@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:36:24 EDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16.204a65cc.2a329d78_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --part1_16.204a65cc.2a329d78_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/2002 2:43:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sawpsawp@atozasia.com writes: > Isnt this like the second time this story has been rehashed into long boring > stupid posts? Are you killing your brain cells that fast? We already have > rich white-boy trying to get back at his parents by acting like hes punk > and anti-government posting daily, thats bad enough. Now back to the same > EXACT old boring posts, same old boring content, same old boring people. > BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! and I dont want to hear > that "i wasnt on the list then" bullshit, because I remember each and > everyone of you. What's with all the teen angst? --part1_16.204a65cc.2a329d78_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/7/2002 2:43:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sawpsawp@atozasia.com writes:


Isnt this like the second time this story has been rehashed into long boring stupid posts? Are you killing your brain cells that fast? We already have rich white-boy trying to get back at his parents by acting like hes punk and anti-government posting daily, thats bad enough. Now back to the same EXACT old boring posts, same old boring content, same old boring people. BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! and I dont want to hear that "i wasnt on the list then" bullshit, because I remember each and everyone of you.


What's with all the teen angst? --part1_16.204a65cc.2a329d78_boundary-- From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Fri Jun 07 19:57:51 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GTc7-0004tO-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 19:57:51 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g57NwSc19618 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:58:28 GMT Received: (qmail 1308 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jun 2002 23:58:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20020607235828.1307.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.31.66] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 07:58:28 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 07:58:28 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.31.66 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Im sorry, I can not give a real response to your email because you are using HTML, and HTML in email is the devil, bobby. You got no name man, no name. You're nameless!

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In a message dated 6/7/2002 2:43:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sawpsawp@atozasia.com writes:


Isnt this like the second time this story has been rehashed into long boring stupid posts? Are you killing your brain cells that fast? We already have rich white-boy trying to get back at his parents by acting like hes punk and anti-government posting daily, thats bad enough. Now back to the same EXACT old boring posts, same old boring content, same old boring people. BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! and I dont want to hear that "i wasnt on the list then" bullshit, because I remember each and everyone of you.


What's with all the teen angst? -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 20:19:30 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GTx3-0000b6-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 20:19:29 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608002006.53205.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.132.21] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:20:06 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Although I may disagree with much of the legislation that has been passed by our government of late (like, f'r instance, the wholesale of our civil rights and national resources to huge corporations who abuse their power to restrict competition and our freedom of choice in the marketplace) and much of our foreign policy (like the giving of military aid to nations like Israel, and the goofy rhetorical notion of 'waging a war' on abstract concepts like 'Drugs' and 'Terrorism,' which cannot be effectively fought with military might, and instead end up doing extensive damage or murderous harm to thousands of innocent civilians of other, smaller & weaker nations), I still firmly believe in the principles upon which our nation was founded. I also believe that educating the public is our greatest hope to change the things about our country that are unfair, because in the end, to the politicians it is public opinion and votes that count, and the people do have the right to influence our government, unlike the situation in many other countries. I just wonder what educated people in, say, China or Iran must think when they stumble across the wwwsites of idiotic right-wing extremist American 'militia group' types (who wouldn't know real oppression if it busted down their front door and hauled them off to the gulags) complaining about their 'civil rights' being violated because they have to have a driver's license, or get an FOID card to buy a gun. They must be completely astonished. And hey, thanks for the support, by the way. --- Empire Monkey wrote: > i have to say something. BBC and Reuters are far less reliable, and far > less respectible in the way they operate with respects to REAL people and > REAL events and how it really affects us than any mainstream american news > network (AP, NBC, CNN, etc). Honestly Reuters has probably made more people > hate the American government with its media privelage than the government > itself has. Heh seems Colonel Panic is the only person that sees > political/military/world events from the same direction I do, or so at least > it seems in his posts. > > > >From: Colonel Panic > >Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > >To: phonelosers@wearehope.com > >Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( > >Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) > > > >OK I think you took some of what I said the wrong way. I > >didn't mean to assault you personally. I guess I am just > >rather passionate about these kinds of subjects. Let me > >clarify my position. > > > > > I agree. I also hope it isn't true. > > > > Well, although it is true that (philosophically speaking) > >we can't be sure of the existence of anything beyond what > >we personally experience with our own 5 senses (and even > >those, being imperfect, are not 100% reliable, and our own > >cognitive interpretation of what we see is likewise fall- > >ible, yadda yadda... etc), you know that argument, as > >the Simpsons' family lawyer Lionel Hutz presented it,"But > >what IS truth, if you catch my meaning...". > > We cannot be everywhere at all times in order to eye- > >witness world events as they happen, nor should we endanger > >ourselves unduly by travelling to dangerous places just to > >keep abreast of daily occurrences, so then we utilize the > >news services. Now as to which news services we choose to > >rely upon, I agree that the mainstream American network > >news system (the Associated Press, International Press > >wire services and their regional affiliates) might not be > >100% reliable, and their affiliates' (most owned by major > >corporations, except perhaps for public radio and TV) > >reportage may carry a partisan or pro-U.S. Government and > >pro-big business stance, despite what many Republicans > >will tell you about a 'liberal media.' But where do we > >turn for news? The BBC? They have the same problems as > >the news services based in the U.S. Other countries, > >European or Asian news services? Well, I would think it > >depends on what country you are looking from news about. > >If you are looking for news concerning a country in Asia, > >for instance Tibet, why not go straight to a Tibetan > >newspaper? I would imagine there must be some English- > >language Tibetan news resource on the Internet. Trouble is, > >you would have to research it a little to make sure it is > >not promoted or owned by the PRC as a propaganda-mill. > > As all this regards the issue at hand, the events of Sept. > >11, 2001: on the 11th, as it happened I immediately searched > >online for all info I could get about the tragedy. For weeks > >afterwards, I scoured the web for news stories, and no major, > >widely respected source I read reported any stories con- > >flicting with the account that airplanes had crashed into > >both WTC towers AND the Pentagon. The groups claiming respon- > >sibility for the attack was an issue for several days, even > >after the U.S. Gov't announced it figured it was Bin Laden, > >and after the U.S. went public with its main issues that led > >suspicion to the Saudi multimillionaire, most reputable news > >sources were in agreement that this was the truth. > > This is the basis upon which I formed by beliefs. I am not > >about to beleive some kook with a Web page and no better > >'evidence' than a bunch of screen-res photos culled from the > >internet with airplanes photoshopped over them no matter what > >country he's from, or how cynically-worded his website, or how > >cool that sideways-scrolley thing was. > > > > Robert Anton Wilson, an author widely recognized as an > >expert on conspiracy theories (he has written at least one > >great sci-fi novel series lampooning the idea of a world > >controlled by secret societies, and many interesting treatises > >and books on the phenomenon of those who see (or pretend to) > >illogical connections between unconnected and or coincidental > >events and imagine impossibly vast, far-reaching conspiracies > >to account for them) says that you must draw a line as to what > >trust you are going place in your sources to accept your data > >(news) as truth. If you call the New York Times (for example) > >a liar, then you must ask yourself, is the agency where I am > >getting my news less- or more-biased than the New York Times? > >If you choose to beleive some guy who has a Web page on the > >internet with cynical, rhetorical-sounding copy, and no > >credible sources, no system of error-reportage, etc. over an > >established news source of many decades (well over a century) > >which has a worldwide readership, and publicly runs announce- > >ments (errata) when they have been found to have made factual > >errors in their stories, then you must ask yourself,"why? could > >it be that I prefer to disbelieve the established news sources? > >and why is that? am I following some agenda here, and only > >seeing that which supports that agenda, that which I want to > >believe?" > > > > I try to employ critical thinking to the data I encounter in > >my daily life. For that reason, I often see things in the news > >that infuriate me, in their stupidity, short-sightedness, or > >worse, their villainous exploitation of the lethargy and pas- > >sivity of the majority of the populace. It is because of this > >search for the truth and the conclusions it has brought me to > >that I hold the political beliefs that I do. I try not, however > >to let my political beliefs and my anger over injustice and > >ignorance color my judgement or influence my perceptions of > >the world around me. You must be careful lest your anger lead > >you to make presumptions for which there is no evidence. Once > >you start listening to crackpots, the battle for the truth is > >lost. > > > > > Yes, childish, incite outrage, so on. Sorry for having an opinion. But > > > whats worse is calling an opinion childish and so on without giving any > > > reason other than because you said so. You are entitled to your say, > >but at > > > least explain your reasoning for the name calling, which I thought was > > > fairly uncalled for. > > > >I did not say that your OPINION was childish, nor did I call > >YOU childish. What I said was, that the, "wish to incite outrage > >from anybody with any basic integrity or compassion" was childish. > >And it is. Imagine if it was one of YOUR family members, a sister > >or brother perhaps, or a parent who got killed on an airplane on > >his/her way to California on vacation or something. You'd be pretty > >pissed, and hurt. Well, to deny that such an outrage against our > >entire country even happened shows a fair bit of cynical political > >bias. Being American is not something we all can help. We were born > >here, and, like it or not, it is a defining part of who we are. > >Whether we agree with the policies of our government or not, we must > >have compassion for our countrymen who are killed--ON OUR OWN SOIL, > >no less, by radical political extremists from another country, > >mustn't we? I think you'd be singing a different tune if it'd been > >one of your family or friends killed by those assholes. > > And the fact is, I agree with the Palestinians that Israel should > >encourage its people NOT to settle in Palestinian areas of the West > >Bank, and NOT offer financial incentives for Israelis who open their > >businesses outside the state of Israel. Encouraging Israeli economic > >growth in Palestinian areas is tantamount to government-sanctioned > >colonialism or imperialism. They are expanding their state's borders > >by giving their people economic advantage over citizens of another, > >bordering nation and thereby, controlling influence over Palestinian > >territories, mile-by-mile, block-by-block. Then, when the Palestin- > >ians fight back in the only way they know, having no military, they > >are deemed 'terrorists' and 'enemies of the world.' And the U.S. > >gives Israel billions every year in economic and military aid to > >encourage this practice. > > > > > > > Ok, fine, let's say the pentagon was an unfair target (which I don't > >agree > > > with). What about the Cole? How is attacking a warship, manned by > >those in > > > the armed forces, terrorism? How the hell is that not a legitimate > >target? > > > Nothing they attack would be legitimate. Every action they take will be > > > labeled as terrorism. At least a few Americans notice that the Israels > >call > > > the Palestinians, defending their towns, homes, and family, terrorists. > > > But, with a little help from the mass media, we don't see it happening > >in > > > our own country. Blowing up a warship should in no way be regarded as > > > terrorism. Attacking the national military headquarters should not be > > > miscontrued as terrorism. What remorse do we feel for those 'civilians' > >who > > > design weapons for the bad guys. Those who sell weapons to the bad guys > >are > > > arms dealers. They sell them to the US and they're contracters. But, > > > nothing is wrong with the accidental killing of an illegal arms dealer. > > > Noone cares if we take down a few of their radio men, but someone takes > >down > > > a few of our 'civilian' guys from signals and its terrorism. > > > >Signals is a military corps. It is not civilian. > >And I never said the attack on the Cole was not fair. But, it occurred > >in another nation's waters, a nation friendly to the U.S. So it was a > >violation of International Law if it was carried out by a government > >explicitly, but it wasn't. It was an attack by an armed insurgent group. > >This still falls under the heading of terrorism. It is still barbaric, > >because our world is supposed to operate under certain rules. For > >instance, if a government attacks another country's territory, embassy, > >holdings, etc. It is considered an act of war. So war is declared upon > >the offending country. But if it is done by an agency outside a > >government (but perhaps covertly receiving aid from a government) it is > >a criminal act, eg. terrorism, and unless a link can be proven between > >the group and the 'harboring' or supporting country, war can not be > >declared legally and the deed goes unpunished. That is the difference. > >Thing is, our country's revolution was started by terrorism. It > >eventually led to war, and we beat the British fairly but it started > >with, basically, terrorism. > > > > > > > > To begin with, the tapes were blatantly fake. Tell the US to release a > > > digital god damn copy next time. Meanwhile, the Europeans have done a > >good > > > job of poking holes in the integrity of the first tape, and blatantly > > > disproving the second. Then again, if you watch US media for your news > >you > > > wouldn't have ever heard about it. Oh, and before you start talking > >about > > > the 'Islamic laws governing how to conduct Jihad' you really need to sit > > > down and read the Holy Koran. I've read it, and I still wouldn't claim > === message truncated === ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Fri Jun 07 20:22:28 2002 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.185]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GTzw-00019Z-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 20:22:28 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608002307.95854.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.132.21] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:23:07 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <16.204a65cc.2a329d78@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: It's pyrosawp. Teen angst is all he has. He's sort of a one-trick pony. But there's room for all types on the PLA-UPL list. > What's with all the teen angst? > > sawpsawp@atozasia.com writes: > > > > Isnt this like the second time this story has been rehashed into long boring > > stupid posts? Are you killing your brain cells that fast? We already have > > rich white-boy trying to get back at his parents by acting like hes punk > > and anti-government posting daily, thats bad enough. Now back to the same > > EXACT old boring posts, same old boring content, same old boring people. > > BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! BORING! and I dont want to hear > > that "i wasnt on the list then" bullshit, because I remember each and > > everyone of you. > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From in_phase@juno.com Fri Jun 07 23:54:59 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GXJb-0005hi-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:54:59 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfSc+KF3YB238i+QB9Wlawz4qG8/qqX0QnA=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4RLUTZ5; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:55:27 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 21:58:01 MDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history Message-ID: <20020607.215802.-264793.0.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5,7-22,25-36,38 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey RTF, I have YOUR introduction. Maybe I'll send it to you privately so you aren't embarassed in front of the whole list :) --- On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:14:24 -0400 "Rob T Firefly" writes: > From: > > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. > > -------------------------------- > > Heh, who needs list archives when you've got In Phase? > > For historical value, the latest homepage link I have for Luvox is: > > http://www.geocities.com/iristheangel/index.html > > There's nothing there now, but you can get kind of a look at what > used to be > there, minus images, at the good ol' web archive. Check out: > http://web.archive.org/web/20010429063311/http://www.geocities.com/iristh ean > gel/index.html > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com From nevarmorexwti@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 00:10:35 2002 Received: from web20905.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.227]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GXYh-000819-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:10:35 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608041116.18123.qmail@web20905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.27.147.21] by web20905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:11:16 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 21:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Nevar More Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020607211750.22767.qmail@atozasia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: only in ohio can you harass yuppies then drive 10 minutes and cow tip! --- pyro sawp wrote: > I bet those cow tipping parties can get wild! > ===== NevarMore "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From in_phase@juno.com Sat Jun 08 00:20:50 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GXic-0000kZ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:20:50 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfRjwhFk5v/pVuLzG/0BE1I08nVSErRLtEw=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4RNAYSH; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:20:40 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:23:08 MDT Subject: Fw: [pla_upl] Bye all Message-ID: <20020607.222309.-264793.2.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-9,11-13,15,17,19-55,57-59 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The "original" message from Luvox where she "signs off". Headers left intact to verify authenticity. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "K. Rose" To: pla_upl@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 05:25:44 -0000 Subject: [pla_upl] Bye all Message-ID: <9kao8o+akqc@egroups.com> Reply-To: pla_upl@yahoogroups.com Received: from [10.1.4.52] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2001 05:25:46 -0000 Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 2 Aug 2001 05:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 47474 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2001 05:25:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Aug 2001 05:25:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n35.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Aug 2001 05:25:45 -0000 Received: from [10.1.10.67] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2001 05:25:45 -0000 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk X-eGroups-Return: IrisTheAngel@yahoo.com X-Sender: IrisTheAngel@yahoo.com Mailing-List: list pla_upl@yahoogroups.com; contact pla_upl-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list pla_upl@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 12.81.160.87 User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Apparently-To: pla_upl@yahoogroups.com List-Unsubscribe: Hi guys, This is pretty much my final post (Finally, after 2 years, I lose my loser status and get a life). 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 01:56:31 2002 Received: from web11206.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.188]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GZDC-0000h5-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 01:56:30 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608055711.4906.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.67] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:57:11 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic To: PLA-UPL list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] Nice Hackers Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I was mulling about the ZhurnalWiki (http://leuf.net/zhurnal/) and I found an entire section on programming philosophy. I found this entry among the section: Nice Hackers Encounters at a 1996 wacky-computer-people conference: The Veteran --- Started working at a weapons lab in 1953; developed and ran pre-FORTRAN era models of hydrogen bombs; told of doing data reduction on decks of punch cards from early tests in the South Pacific; now frail, tired, used a walker to navigate the room; napped in a corner, ignored by all the young hot-shots (and where will they be in a few decades?) ... The Computer Scientist --- Seduced away from a PC company to a media conglomerate; felt guilty, but had to abandon work on software development environments for kids, since there was no money to continue the project ... The New Father (& Semi-Famous Author) --- Goofily gregarious in a group, but in private worried that he wasn't "mensch enough" to homeschool his children... The Social Activist --- Talked about bringing computers to disadvantaged high schools (a presentation that was spurned by the majority in favor of video game demos)... The Civil Servant --- Modest and self-effacing, a late-night philosopher who spent most of his time driving visitors around town and managing major procurement contracts, so that others in his labs could do research... The International Technologist --- Frustrated in attempts to work with the US Government by stupidity and ignorance on the federal side of the table; talked movingly about challenges of Third World technology development, and noted with anger that two thirds of the audience left at the beginning of the session... The Millionaire Mathematician --- An extreme introvert, almost too shy to introduce himself, but blossomed into quiet talkativeness one-on-one about his research and discoveries... ...In short, a fine crew of deep, thoughtful, concerned people, worried about important issues. But far outnumbering them, alas, were flocks of self-promoters whose agenda focused on passing out business cards and making quick spiels, in hopes of attracting money for their ventures ... plus a slightly smaller herd of megalomaniacs, each of whom was sure s/he knew The Answer --- and insisted on explaining it in detail to anyone who was polite enough to listen. This 'conference' was obviously not DefCon. ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 02:04:50 2002 Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.189]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GZLF-0002PD-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 02:04:49 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608060531.96189.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.67] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:05:31 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic To: PLA-UPL list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] Anyone for Chess? Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (http://www.leuf.net/zhurnal) Here is another interesting little snippet from the ZhurnalWiki: Caissic Metaphors Playing chess well is tough. Programming computers to play chess well is a challenge that has been wrestled with for many decades. Several key concepts developed during the struggle have relevance, direct as well as metaphorical, to many areas of life: iterative deepening --- study immediate possibilities and then use the results to guide deeper analysis, rather than blindly plunging far down hypothetical avenues; transposition tables --- keep track of where your choices are going to lead you, and if there are multiple ways to get to the same place then you can save time by remembering, rather than re-evaluating, the consequences; minimax trees --- look ahead, map out the space of possibilities, and assume that the opposition will do its darndest to cause mischief at every opportunity (i.e., minimize the value of the game for you) ... so pick the branch of the tree that maximizes the minimum result, thereby making the worst-case as good as possible; alpha-beta pruning --- once you've looked ahead a bit and partially built a minimax tree, by evaluating choices in the right order you need not go down every branch ... since some choices will be dominated by others along the way (so with luck and good planning the search space is cut down to the square root of itself, and millions of branches can effectively be computed with only thousands of evaluations) killer heuristics --- if you find a good strategy (a "killer" move) in one place, try it in other situations ... it's likely to be a winner in many contexts. On top of these not-always-intuitive techniques, there are some simple yet important tactics from classical chess wisdom: watch the clock --- budget your thinking time to avoid running out in a critical position; know the terrain --- study openings, endgames, tactical configurations, and positional elements so as to have advance knowledge and familiarity with likely challenges; and control complexity --- keep things chaotic and confusing when you're behind, but ruthlessly simplify when winning, to maximize an adversary's chance to make mistakes and minimize one's own problems. Caissa, the (make-believe) goddess of Chess is watching! ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 02:28:36 2002 Received: from web11206.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.188]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GZiG-0005tX-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 02:28:36 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608062917.9045.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.67] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:29:17 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:29:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic To: PLA-UPL list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] Digital Media Essay Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (http://leuf.net/zhurnal/) Yet another interesting bit from the Topic Programming of the ZhurnalWiki: -------------------------------------------------- Robustness of Digital Media Digital systems are not more delicate than analog ones for archival information storage and retrieval, in spite of common statements to the contrary. Sure, one can record digital data in an easily-lost format, just as one can write analog-fashion in the sand or draw in an ephemeral medium. But with a little care, digital storage can be extraordinarily resistant to loss. Aside from all the ordinary precautions that one takes with any object to safeguard it --- control of light, humidity, and temperature, use of stable substrates, physical isolation, etc. --- digital technology opens the door to a new means of preservation: mathematical error correction. Error correction is like holography but with an extra twist. Holograms encode an image and spread it out over a surface. The non-locality of the data means that if part of the hologram is destroyed, the whole picture is still there, only somewhat fuzzier. (Footnote for quibblers: we're talking about classic Fourier-transform-style holography, not white-light or other variants which put image information into narrow strips or patches.) Digital error correction similarly takes data and spreads it out, but with a little extra redundancy. That way if some bits are lost, they can be reconstructed. A trivial form of error correction is to repeat the data three times ("What I tell you three times is true!") and then when reading it out take a "majority rules" approach if parts of the record differ. That's simple but wasteful, and it can only fix a single error for each triplet of information. More sophisticated math permits the detection and correction of many mistakes with only a slight overhead in extra storage. In fact, though they often don't realize it, when people use words in any form they're dealing with a digital bitstream --- whether the text is printed on paper, handwritten as calligraphy, or spoken into a recorder. Words are made of letters, and letters are chosen from a finite set of symbols. The same holds for spoken language, which is built of phonemes. Alphabets typically encode four to eight bits per symbol; a language like Chinese may have up to 20 bits per ideogram. And there's redundancy galore: "Q" in English is almost always followed by "U", the letter "E" is commonest, followed by "T", and so forth. A slightly garbled or faded message can be recovered quite reliably, and vn txts wrttn wtht ny vwls cn b rd strghtfrwrdly n mny crcmstncs. That's natural error correction for a digital medium. It's used by cryptographers to break codes, and by linguists to reconstruct lost languages from fragmentary inscriptions. In a manner of speaking, redundancy and error correction supply a built-in Rosetta Stone for digital media --- a safety net that analog systems lack. -------------------------------------------------- There are about 60 such essays and thoughts in the Topic Programming section. ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 02:53:34 2002 Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.186]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Ga6P-0000vk-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 02:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608065415.90414.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.67] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2002 23:54:15 PDT Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] One Man's PC history Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Here is yet another interesting piece from the ZhurnalWiki--it is something that a few of us have discussed on this list; ------------------------------------------- Personal Computer History Over the past quarter century I seem to have had something of a knack for betting on the wrong PC pony. Maybe I'm a contrary indicator? Perhaps I should be paid by manufacturers not to buy their systems? Or are my needs and interests and criteria too atypical for the market to fill? Regardless and nevertheless, here's a brief chronology of my twisted path through the thickets of home computer systems: ~1977 --- Commodore PET. With its built-in cassette recorder for program storage, 25x40 character monochrome screen, a big 8kB of static RAM, and a mighty 1 MHz 6502 processor, the PET at $800 was a decent machine for its time. Microsoft BASIC in ROM left room for quite a bit of fun programming, with gateways into assembly language and other coding environments. More practical applications were, alas, scant. So I played around with my PET (= "Personal Electronic Transactor"), did some science-fair-like projects, wrote them up, and sold a few articles to hobby computing magazines to help pay for the box. One day, a year or two after I got the PET, I started seeing intermittent errors in some of my calculations. I ran a bunch of tests and finally tracked it down to a failing memory chip: a particular bit was fading out about every tenth of a second. It cost me $20 to buy a replacement --- a lot of money for a starving grad student --- but when the component arrived I took my clothes off (to avoid static electricity), installed the new chip, and got my bit back. Whew! Out of a naïve sense of corporate loyalty I bought a few shares of Commodore stock; a couple of years later I sold them to protest Commodore's lack of support for programmers and users. No one noticed. ~1982 --- Atari 400/800. Mainly a game platform, the Atari 400 (with its flat-panel pseudo-keyboard; the 800, its more expensive and bigger brother, had real keys) gave me opportunities to explore some new programming ideas. In other directions I tried to use it for a bit of writing and dial-up bulletin-board work, but nothing of significance came out of those activities. Like Commodore, Atari as a company never managed to figure out how to move its machine from hobbyist toy to mainstream system. ~1984 --- Apple Macintosh "Classic" (et seq.). Here were some really useful personal computers. My family and I did writing, art, music, and animation on our Macs. I programmed them in FORTH and C, and created my free-text indexer/browser software on them. I learned Hypercard and the associated Hypertalk scripting language, which let me do rapid prototyping of nice graphical user interfaces. Apple was wise enough to encourage a broad spectrum of developers via its "Library of Tomorrow" initiative and other methods. Over the years I acquired a variety of Macintosh models, most noteworthy being upgrades of the Classic Mac toaster, luggable Mac Portables, and a UNIX-equipped Mac IIcx. Fine machines all, each in an idiosyncratic way. (see Thanks Alot (27 Nov 1999), World Texas History and North American Texas History (15 May 2000), Free Text Friends (25 Aug 2000), etc.) ~1987 --- Toshiba T1000. This slow but lightweight and reliable laptop was, for over half a decade, my workhorse for computing on the road and for abortive forays into C coding in the IBM PC-compatible cosmos. The Toshiba served well in textual dial-up Internet and BBSing. But I was already spoiled by UNIX and Mac; the MS-DOS poor excuse for an interface made this and other conventional PCs feel like (insert your favorite metaphor of an unaesthetic activity here) for all but the most pedestrian applications. Nevertheless, I held my nose and used the T1000. Interoperability with a quasi-monopoly hath its benefits. In addition to the Toshiba, for the bulk of the 1990s I worked with an uninteresting and quite forgettable list of other DOS- and Windows-based systems. ~1998 --- Apple Newton eMate. This ultraportable combination of touch-screen PDA and keyboard in a curvy turtle-shell lived in an alternative dimension of its own, beyond human reality. Although it let me compose ^zhurnal items, read email messages, and produce Web pages, the eMate was limited by its architecture to small projects (<20kB or so in practical terms). Worse, Apple never managed to sell a critical mass of Newton systems, and so development of software was limited to labors of love by genius aficionados such as Steve Weyer (the Newt's Cape browser), David Benn (the Little LISP language), and Simon Bell (the Simple Mail email client). I abase myself before these and other underappreciated Newton programmers; our world is unworthy of your labors. But when my eMate died in 2001 (mostly, my son Rob still plays Daleks and Yahtzee on it) , I had to move back to this mundane plane of existence. My favorite Iron today? I'm almost afraid to reveal the answer, since so far things are going well ... maybe too well, as the horror movie cliché goes. For most of the past year I've been using an Apple iBook. It's a constant delight --- the perfect combination of affordability, portability, reliability, processing power, and buck-naked beauty. The UNIX under the hood of Mac OS-X is a real operating system; no more need be said. ------------------------------------------- Cool, huh? I am glad I stumbled upon this website while searching text-parsing engines on the web. ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Sat Jun 08 03:02:12 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GaEl-00027I-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 03:02:11 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5872oo28078 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:02:50 GMT Received: (qmail 14124 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 2002 07:02:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020608070250.14123.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [63.22.216.176] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 15:02:50 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 15:02:50 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history X-Originating-Ip: 63.22.216.176 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mg.hk5.outblaze.com id g5872oo28078 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: You spelled pyrosawp right... impressive.... angst1 Pronunciation Key (=E4ngkst) n.=20 A feeling of anxiety or apprehension often accompanied by depression. =20 I dont see how being annoyed at you same... "people"... bringing up the s= ame topic all the time because you cant remember anything falls under anx= iety or apprehension. Now you may return to licking the fomunda cheese of= f of linear while you have the webcam broadcasting to the dorm.=20 Oh, and I'm glad you remember me, and I love you too! As for being a one-= trick pony, im flabbergasted at this accustion, I play monopoly! Do you p= lay monopoly?!?!?! Didn't think so, looooser. _________________ I'm a one-trick pony mommy! ----- Original Message ----- From: Colonel Panic Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:23:07 -0700 (PDT) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history > It's pyrosawp. >=20 > Teen angst is all he has. He's sort of a one-trick pony. > But there's room for all types on the PLA-UPL list. >=20 >=20 --=20 __________________________________________________=0D Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com=0D =0D =0D Powered by Outblaze From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 03:04:08 2002 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.185]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GaGd-0002LZ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 03:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608070444.26072.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.67] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:04:44 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:04:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] One Man's PC history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020608065415.90414.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Yes, I am replying to MY OWN post. How pathetic and masturbatory is that? Something this guy said about the Commodore PET reminded me of something I saw on Futurama; there was a scene in one episode where they showed an X-Ray of Bender's (the Robot's) head, and his brain was a chip labeled '6502'. I found that extremely funny in that delightfully geeky way that's characteristic of much of Matt Groening's productions. --- Colonel Panic wrote: > Here is yet another interesting piece from the ZhurnalWiki--it is something that a few > of > us have discussed on this list; > > ------------------------------------------- > > Personal Computer History > > Over the past quarter century I seem to have had something of a knack for betting on > the > wrong PC pony. Maybe I'm a contrary indicator? Perhaps I should be paid by > manufacturers > not to buy their systems? Or are my needs and interests and criteria too atypical for > the > market to fill? > > Regardless and nevertheless, here's a brief chronology of my twisted path through the > thickets of home computer systems: > > ~1977 --- Commodore PET. With its built-in cassette recorder for program storage, 25x40 > character monochrome screen, a big 8kB of static RAM, and a mighty 1 MHz 6502 > processor, > the PET at $800 was a decent machine for its time. Microsoft BASIC in ROM left room for > quite a bit of fun programming, with gateways into assembly language and other coding > environments. More practical applications were, alas, scant. So I played around with my > PET (= "Personal Electronic Transactor"), did some science-fair-like projects, wrote > them > up, and sold a few articles to hobby computing magazines to help pay for the box. One > day, a year or two after I got the PET, I started seeing intermittent errors in some of > my calculations. I ran a bunch of tests and finally tracked it down to a failing memory > chip: a particular bit was fading out about every tenth of a second. It cost me $20 to > buy a replacement --- a lot of money for a starving grad student --- but when the > component arrived I took my clothes off (to avoid static electricity), installed the > new > chip, and got my bit back. Whew! Out of a naïve sense of corporate loyalty I bought a > few > shares of Commodore stock; a couple of years later I sold them to protest Commodore's > lack of support for programmers and users. No one noticed. > > ~1982 --- Atari 400/800. Mainly a game platform, the Atari 400 (with its flat-panel > pseudo-keyboard; the 800, its more expensive and bigger brother, had real keys) gave me > opportunities to explore some new programming ideas. In other directions I tried to use > it for a bit of writing and dial-up bulletin-board work, but nothing of significance > came > out of those activities. Like Commodore, Atari as a company never managed to figure out > how to move its machine from hobbyist toy to mainstream system. > > ~1984 --- Apple Macintosh "Classic" (et seq.). Here were some really useful personal > computers. My family and I did writing, art, music, and animation on our Macs. I > programmed them in FORTH and C, and created my free-text indexer/browser software on > them. I learned Hypercard and the associated Hypertalk scripting language, which let me > do rapid prototyping of nice graphical user interfaces. Apple was wise enough to > encourage a broad spectrum of developers via its "Library of Tomorrow" initiative and > other methods. Over the years I acquired a variety of Macintosh models, most noteworthy > being upgrades of the Classic Mac toaster, luggable Mac Portables, and a UNIX-equipped > Mac IIcx. Fine machines all, each in an idiosyncratic way. (see Thanks Alot (27 Nov > 1999), World Texas History and North American Texas History (15 May 2000), Free Text > Friends (25 Aug 2000), etc.) > > ~1987 --- Toshiba T1000. This slow but lightweight and reliable laptop was, for over > half > a decade, my workhorse for computing on the road and for abortive forays into C coding > in > the IBM PC-compatible cosmos. The Toshiba served well in textual dial-up Internet and > BBSing. But I was already spoiled by UNIX and Mac; the MS-DOS poor excuse for an > interface made this and other conventional PCs feel like (insert your favorite metaphor > of an unaesthetic activity here) for all but the most pedestrian applications. > Nevertheless, I held my nose and used the T1000. Interoperability with a quasi-monopoly > hath its benefits. In addition to the Toshiba, for the bulk of the 1990s I worked with > an > uninteresting and quite forgettable list of other DOS- and Windows-based systems. > > ~1998 --- Apple Newton eMate. This ultraportable combination of touch-screen PDA and > keyboard in a curvy turtle-shell lived in an alternative dimension of its own, beyond > human reality. Although it let me compose ^zhurnal items, read email messages, and > produce Web pages, the eMate was limited by its architecture to small projects (<20kB > or > so in practical terms). Worse, Apple never managed to sell a critical mass of Newton > systems, and so development of software was limited to labors of love by genius > aficionados such as Steve Weyer (the Newt's Cape browser), David Benn (the Little LISP > language), and Simon Bell (the Simple Mail email client). I abase myself before these > and > other underappreciated Newton programmers; our world is unworthy of your labors. But > when > my eMate died in 2001 (mostly, my son Rob still plays Daleks and Yahtzee on it) , I had > to move back to this mundane plane of existence. > > My favorite Iron today? I'm almost afraid to reveal the answer, since so far things > are > going well ... maybe too well, as the horror movie cliché goes. For most of the past > year > I've been using an Apple iBook. It's a constant delight --- the perfect combination of > affordability, portability, reliability, processing power, and buck-naked beauty. The > UNIX under the hood of Mac OS-X is a real operating system; no more need be said. > > ------------------------------------------- > > Cool, huh? I am glad I stumbled upon this website while searching text-parsing engines > on > the web. > > ===== > --—┼eК₪ØمuçK > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sat Jun 08 03:06:02 2002 Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.187]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GaIT-0002bl-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 03:06:01 -0400 Message-ID: <20020608070643.31363.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.67] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 00:06:43 PDT Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:06:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020608070250.14123.qmail@atozasia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: It's ok, we stll love you. C'mon, give us a hug! --- pyro sawp wrote: > You spelled pyrosawp right... impressive.... > > angst1 Pronunciation Key (ängkst) > n. > A feeling of anxiety or apprehension often accompanied by depression. > > I dont see how being annoyed at you same... "people"... bringing up the same topic all > the time because you cant remember anything falls under anxiety or apprehension. Now > you may return to licking the fomunda cheese off of linear while you have the webcam > broadcasting to the dorm. > > Oh, and I'm glad you remember me, and I love you too! As for being a one-trick pony, im > flabbergasted at this accustion, I play monopoly! Do you play monopoly?!?!?! Didn't > think so, looooser. > > _________________ > I'm a one-trick pony mommy! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colonel Panic > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:23:07 -0700 (PDT) > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history > > > > It's pyrosawp. > > > > Teen angst is all he has. He's sort of a one-trick pony. > > But there's room for all types on the PLA-UPL list. > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ > Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Sat Jun 08 03:33:52 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GajP-00064Q-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 03:33:52 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g587YWo03642 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:34:33 GMT Received: (qmail 17888 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 2002 07:34:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20020608073432.17887.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [63.22.216.176] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 15:34:32 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 15:34:32 +0800 Subject: Re: Fw: [pla_upl] Bye all X-Originating-Ip: 63.22.216.176 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Let me give you the real story behind her leaving.... [useless other crap deleted; August 7'th 2001-openprojects] [19:54] |Katie| (Luvoxphrea@60.westvalleycity-03rh15rt-ut.dial-access.att.net) joined #phonelosers. [19:54] <|Katie|> Hello [19:55] <|Katie|> Anyone awake? [19:56] you were suppose to leave [19:57] whats your excuse? you went to "get a real life" remember, why are you here? [20:00] ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [20:01] why must you play your games! [20:02] <|Katie|> I never said anything about not coming on IRC [20:02] <|Katie|> and anyways, I gotta go [20:02] <|Katie|> my friend's here [20:02] what! [20:02] |Katie| (Luvoxphrea@60.westvalleycity-03rh15rt-ut.dial-access.att.net) left irc: how fucking rude! same day, little later: [23:04] |Katie| (Luvoxphrea@246.westvalleycity-02rh16rt-ut.dial-access.att.net) joined #phonelosers. [23:05] <|Katie|> werd! [23:05] whoa [23:05] you make no sense katie [23:05] its the artist formally known as luvoxphreak [23:06] IRCing is having more of a life then reading emails? [23:06] i wasnt even mean when you left, that really sucks! [23:06] <|Katie|> hehe [23:06] <|Katie|> Well, I'm not on the list mostly for other reasons too [23:07] <|Katie|> I'm in love. [23:07] <|Katie|> It's great [23:07] with who? [23:07] <|Katie|> and the one I love doesn't like me breaking the law... [23:07] oh god [23:07] Whip noise [23:07] a stupid love story coming [23:07] <|Katie|> When I'm on the list, I break the law every once in a while cause of the harrassing we all do [23:07] <|Katie|> Yep yep [23:07] <|Katie|> http://www.geocities.com/iristheangel/katieandapril.jpg [rest of the boring shit deleted] The picture is still up... case sensitive, i just messed up the cases cause im a jerk like that. now one of you dead braincell hippies can start up a dicussion for like the 5'th time about "what about her fighting about her not being a lesbian?" ______________ I'm a one-trick pony mommy! ----- Original Message ----- From: in_phase@juno.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:23:08 MDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Fw: [pla_upl] Bye all > The "original" message from Luvox where she "signs off". > Headers left intact to verify authenticity. > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "K. Rose" > To: pla_upl@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 05:25:44 -0000 > Subject: [pla_upl] Bye all > Message-ID: <9kao8o+akqc@egroups.com> > Reply-To: pla_upl@yahoogroups.com > Received: from [10.1.4.52] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2001 > 05:25:46 -0000 > Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 2 Aug 2001 05:25:46 -0000 > Received: (qmail 47474 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2001 05:25:45 -0000 > Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Aug > 2001 05:25:45 -0000 > Received: from unknown (HELO n35.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.1.40) by mta1 > with SMTP; 2 Aug 2001 05:25:45 -0000 > Received: from [10.1.10.67] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2001 > 05:25:45 -0000 > X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: bulk > X-eGroups-Return: IrisTheAngel@yahoo.com > X-Sender: IrisTheAngel@yahoo.com > Mailing-List: list pla_upl@yahoogroups.com; contact > pla_upl-owner@yahoogroups.com > Delivered-To: mailing list pla_upl@yahoogroups.com > X-Originating-IP: 12.81.160.87 > User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 > X-Apparently-To: pla_upl@yahoogroups.com > List-Unsubscribe: > > Hi guys, > This is pretty much my final post (Finally, after 2 years, I lose my > loser status and get a life). I'm not leaving cause of anything scary > or anyone harrassing me, just time to move onto real life now. > > Adios, > > Katie > No longer LuvoxPhreak > -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Sat Jun 08 03:35:09 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Gakf-0006EH-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 03:35:09 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g587Zoo03984 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:35:50 GMT Received: (qmail 18039 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 2002 07:35:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020608073550.18038.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [63.22.216.176] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 15:35:50 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 15:35:50 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history X-Originating-Ip: 63.22.216.176 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mg.hk5.outblaze.com id g587Zoo03984 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: my gaydar is blowin' up! ----- Original Message ----- From: Colonel Panic Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:06:43 -0700 (PDT) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history > It's ok, we stll love you. C'mon, give us a hug! >=20 > --- pyro sawp wrote: > > You spelled pyrosawp right... impressive.... > >=20 > > angst1 Pronunciation Key (=E4ngkst) > > n.=20 > > A feeling of anxiety or apprehension often accompanied by depression. > > =20 > > I dont see how being annoyed at you same... "people"... bringing up t= he same topic all > > the time because you cant remember anything falls under anxiety or ap= prehension. Now > > you may return to licking the fomunda cheese off of linear while you = have the webcam > > broadcasting to the dorm.=20 > >=20 > > Oh, and I'm glad you remember me, and I love you too! As for being a = one-trick pony, im > > flabbergasted at this accustion, I play monopoly! Do you play monopol= y?!?!?! Didn't > > think so, looooser. > >=20 > > _________________ > > I'm a one-trick pony mommy! > >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Colonel Panic > > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:23:07 -0700 (PDT) > > To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history > >=20 > >=20 > > > It's pyrosawp. > > >=20 > > > Teen angst is all he has. He's sort of a one-trick pony. > > > But there's room for all types on the PLA-UPL list. > > >=20 > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Powered by Outblaze > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Phonelosers mailing list > > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.= com >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼eК₪=D8مu=E7K >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.co= m >=20 >=20 --=20 __________________________________________________=0D Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com=0D =0D =0D Powered by Outblaze From DarkkstaR1@aol.com Sat Jun 08 19:12:45 2002 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.7]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GpO1-0001Fu-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:12:45 -0400 Received: from DarkkstaR1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.da.1910f2e0 (3991) for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2002 19:13:30 -0400 (EDT) From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 19:13:29 EDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message ... To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_da.1910f2e0.2a33e999_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --part1_da.1910f2e0.2a33e999_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/6/02 9:12:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, r_t_f@phonelosers.net writes: > What's with all these people living in California? Why doesn't the country > tip over or something? > > I'm lonely on the east cost. At least until h2k2. Haha, I know how you feel. The west coast sucks anyway. --part1_da.1910f2e0.2a33e999_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/6/02 9:12:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, r_t_f@phonelosers.net writes:


What's with all these people living in California?  Why doesn't the country
tip over or something?

I'm lonely on the east cost.  At least until h2k2.


Haha, I know how you feel.

The west coast sucks anyway. --part1_da.1910f2e0.2a33e999_boundary-- From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Sun Jun 09 00:58:33 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Gume-0007ZX-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 00:58:32 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g594xK107334 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2002 04:59:20 GMT Received: (qmail 12802 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Jun 2002 04:59:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20020609045920.12801.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.58.125] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:59:20 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:59:20 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message ... X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.58.125 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mg.hk5.outblaze.com id g594xK107334 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: the only thing that sucks is your mom... I bet shes raking in alot of cas= h tonight. __________ I'm a one-trick pony mommy!

----- Original Message -----
From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 19:13:29 EDT
To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com
Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: retur= ning message ...


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In a message dated 6/6= /02 9:12:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, r_t_f@phonelosers.net writes:


What's with all these peo= ple living in California?=A0 Why doesn't the country
tip over or something?

I'm lonely on the east cost.=A0 At least until h2k2.


Haha, I know how you feel.

The west coast sucks anyway. --=20 __________________________________________________=0D Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com =0D =0D =0D Powered by Outblaze From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sun Jun 09 03:40:07 2002 Received: from web11206.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.188]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17GxJ1-0007ra-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 03:40:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20020609074057.94829.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.5.254] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 00:40:57 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 00:40:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message ... To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Oh, no! Not the East Coast vs. West Coast thing again! See, that's why I live in the Midwest. --- DarkkstaR1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/6/02 9:12:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > r_t_f@phonelosers.net writes: > > > > What's with all these people living in California? Why doesn't the country > > tip over or something? > > > > I'm lonely on the east cost. At least until h2k2. > > Haha, I know how you feel. > > The west coast sucks anyway. > ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From in_phase@juno.com Sun Jun 09 14:09:10 2002 Received: from m8.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.71]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17H77m-0004kS-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:09:10 -0400 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"iN/NpM95nG1QaTP/YlurfUyba1yOlgvPR0rwfykT1pqUkU5/Yczv5w=="> Received: (from in_phase@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id G4VP479U; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 14:09:25 EDT To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:12:24 MDT Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] One Man's PC history Message-ID: <20020609.121225.-327463.0.in_phase@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-21 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: in_phase@juno.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The 6502 was also in the Apple II family. I still have my old trusty Apple //e that I got in 1984. --- On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Colonel Panic writes: > > Yes, I am replying to MY OWN post. How pathetic and masturbatory is > that? > > Something this guy said about the Commodore PET reminded me of > something I saw on > Futurama; there was a scene in one episode where they showed an > X-Ray of Bender's (the > Robot's) head, and his brain was a chip labeled '6502'. I found that > extremely funny in > that delightfully geeky way that's characteristic of much of Matt > Groening's productions. > > > From teknopuck@yahoo.com Sun Jun 09 20:33:32 2002 Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.171]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HD7j-0004mn-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 20:33:31 -0400 Message-ID: <20020610003427.93083.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.6.79] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jun 2002 17:34:27 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] One Man's PC history To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <20020609.121225.-327463.0.in_phase@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I remember in my early high-school days, the shitty Catholic school my brother and I attended was still using Commodore PETs for their computer science classes. I had already been programming in BASIC for about three years when I took the class. At the time, our computer at home--a new Atari 400--was actually a far superior machine to those crappy PETs they were using to teach us at our school. When I mentioned to my programming teacher the superiority of our own Atari box to those crappy beige green-screened artifacts, he said that those Atari boxes were nothing more than toys, and Commodores were REAL computers. That was my first experience of platform-bias in the computing world. Although the PETs had those huge 8" FDDs and we didn't get our first FDD until we bought an Atari 800 a few years later, the Atari 400 at least was capable of displaying 256 colors (when hooked to a color TV, anyway). HDDs weren't widely available for home computers [then still called 'micro- computers'] until at least half-a-decade later, after Apple introduced the GUI. --- in_phase@juno.com wrote: > The 6502 was also in the Apple II family. > I still have my old trusty Apple //e that I got in 1984. > > --- > > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Colonel Panic > writes: > > > > Yes, I am replying to MY OWN post. How pathetic and masturbatory is > > that? > > > > Something this guy said about the Commodore PET reminded me of > > something I saw on > > Futurama; there was a scene in one episode where they showed an > > X-Ray of Bender's (the > > Robot's) head, and his brain was a chip labeled '6502'. I found that > > extremely funny in > > that delightfully geeky way that's characteristic of much of Matt > > Groening's productions. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Mon Jun 10 13:43:03 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HTC2-0008Ow-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:43:02 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g5AHh5a19562 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:43:05 -0400 Message-ID: <00b901c210a6$402e8000$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020607231610.80345.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] interesting Luvox history Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:42:54 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: They work fine for me. There are bits and pieces missing, because they are old. Sort of like with grandparents. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From: "Colonel Panic" > Um, both of those links were dead, man... > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > From: > > > I know Luvox isn't around to defend herself, so I hope it's > > > "fair game" to post this. It's from early 1999 when everybody > > > was introducing themselves and spewing personal facts. > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Heh, who needs list archives when you've got In Phase? > > > > For historical value, the latest homepage link I have for Luvox is: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/iristheangel/index.html > > > > There's nothing there now, but you can get kind of a look at what used to be > > there, minus images, at the good ol' web archive. Check out: > > http://web.archive.org/web/20010429063311/http://www.geocities.com/iristhean > > gel/index.html From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Mon Jun 10 13:44:33 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HTDV-0008Vc-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:44:33 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g5AHiZa19731 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:44:35 -0400 Message-ID: <00ce01c210a6$7608d0e0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message ... Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:44:24 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: DarkkstaR1@aol.com >> Haha, I know how you feel. << Pink, soft, and oily. Everyone knows that. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From brad_the_carter@yahoo.com Mon Jun 10 13:56:26 2002 Received: from web14202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.144]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HTP0-0000tN-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:56:26 -0400 Message-ID: <20020610175618.87590.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.217.25.180] by web14202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:56:18 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:56:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Carter To: phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] contest Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Reply-To: brad_the_carter@yahoo.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm doing one of those silly contest things again. Actually it's an attempt to get a bunch of people to spend their summer creating free artwork for my website, deguised as a contest. I sure am clever. Anyway, the details are on www.phonelosers.org. ===== My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/ Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Mon Jun 10 14:31:30 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HTww-0005C9-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:31:30 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g5AIVWa26007 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:31:32 -0400 Message-ID: <025e01c210ad$03c4a200$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020607201942.14671.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message tosender (fwd)) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:31:19 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.10 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: If it;s good enough for both Drew Carey and Happatai, it's good enough for me. OHIOOOOOO!!!!!! From: "Nevar More" > Fuck ya'll! Midwest is the shit y0! Ohio is where the > party is at. > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > Eastside, muthafaku! EASTSIDE!!!!@#$%^& > > > > > ===== > NevarMore > > "OWWWWWW SHIT THATS HOT!!!!" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com > From meggito@hotmail.com Mon Jun 10 20:32:29 2002 Received: from f196.law9.hotmail.com ([64.4.9.196] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HZaH-0003vd-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:32:29 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:32:30 -0700 Received: from 172.131.157.229 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 00:32:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [172.131.157.229] From: "Nathaniel Wilson" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:32:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2002 00:32:30.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[786FF5F0:01C210DF] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >i have to say something. BBC and Reuters are far less reliable, and far >less respectible in the way they operate with respects to REAL people and >REAL events and how it really affects us than any mainstream american news >network (AP, NBC, CNN, etc). Honestly Reuters has probably made more >people hate the American government with its media privelage than the >government itself has. Heh seems Colonel Panic is the only person that >sees political/military/world events from the same direction I do, or so at >least it seems in his posts. Today's story... Well, a few of you may have heard about the most recent of 'Palestinian' suicide bombings. Apparently, a lone 'Palesinian' (by which I mean anyone who isn't Jewish) went kamikaze on a bus in Megiddo (woot, my namesake in the news yet again) and killed 17 people. In turn the Israelis immediately labeled the attacks terrorism and blew the hell out of Arafat's summer cottage. He managed to make it out alive once again. Now, I was shifting through US News today and found an article referring to the exchange. Funny quote meant to play on the sympathies of the ages of the victims in the attack stated that of the 17 killed, 13 were soldiers under 20 (or something similar). A little further checking and I found out that all 16 victims (the sevententh being the bomber) were in the Israeli military. Apparently, this so called bus *cough*troop transport*cough* was targetted by those uppity Palestinians. Well, once again I'll go into my little ramp about attacking military targets NOT being terrorism. Also, beware Jewish writers. Another one that pissed me off was the anti-soccer article in the Post yesterday (or maybe it was this morning) that, not so subtly, mentioned that soccer was 'the favorate sport of Osama Bin Laden'. The writer was Jewish and should be killed. I have no problem with Jews of course, just Zionist media manipulating murderers who hide their crimes behind a facade of fighting terrorism. The news is full of lies. Find them. Kill them. Take out as many bystanders as possible. -Meggito _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From metatron57@hotmail.com Tue Jun 11 14:38:34 2002 Received: from oe54.law14.hotmail.com ([64.4.20.47] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HqXK-00064p-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:38:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:37:36 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [172.157.127.4] From: "The Metatron" To: Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:37:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C21155.8D0FA3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2002 18:37:36.0904 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EEDC880:01C21177] Subject: [PLA_UPL] I know. 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(Mail delivery failed: returning message ... To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_dc.186c27af.2a37aa8b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10572 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --part1_dc.186c27af.2a37aa8b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/9/02 1:01:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sawpsawp@atozasia.com writes: > the only thing that sucks is your mom... I bet shes raking in alot of cash > I heard your mom sucks dick for quarters. She's making an extra 3 bucks a week!!! --part1_dc.186c27af.2a37aa8b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/9/02 1:01:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sawpsawp@atozasia.com writes:


the only thing that sucks is your mom... I bet shes raking in alot of cash tonight. __________ I'm a one-trick pony mommy!


I heard your mom sucks dick for quarters.  She's making an extra 3 bucks a week!!! --part1_dc.186c27af.2a37aa8b_boundary-- From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Tue Jun 11 22:04:01 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HxUP-0004fQ-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:04:01 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5C23xW10342 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:03:59 GMT Received: (qmail 3598 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Jun 2002 02:03:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20020612020359.3597.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.58.49] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:03:59 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:03:59 +0800 Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Re: Hey S-man wuzzup? (Mail delivery failed: returning message ... X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.58.49 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mg.hk5.outblaze.com id g5C23xW10342 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Really? she must of upped her prices.. last time i checked it was only 15= .... you're getting ripped off. It's not even worth that, I know from exp= erience. I'm sure your mom will hook you up with one of her fellow "co-wo= rkers" though, go check em out.=20

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the only thing that s= ucks is your mom... I bet shes raking in alot of cash tonight. __________= I'm a one-trick pony mommy!


I heard your mom sucks dick for quarters. =A0She's making an extra 3 = bucks a week!!! --=20 __________________________________________________=0D Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com =0D =0D =0D Powered by Outblaze From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 22:16:11 2002 Received: from web11202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HxgB-00055h-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612021612.43423.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.15] by web11202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:16:12 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:16:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Wait a minute, Mr."Excuse me for having an opinion," did I read this correctly? Another one that pissed me off was the anti-soccer article in the Post yesterday (or maybe it was this morning) that, not so subtly, mentioned that soccer was 'the favorate sport of Osama Bin Laden'. The writer was Jewish and should be killed. Whoa, hey there, dude... The writer skould be KILLED? Talk about attacking somebody just for having an opinion... Or did you mean he should be killed because he is Jewish? --- Nathaniel Wilson wrote: > > >i have to say something. BBC and Reuters are far less reliable, and far > >less respectible in the way they operate with respects to REAL people and > >REAL events and how it really affects us than any mainstream american news > >network (AP, NBC, CNN, etc). Honestly Reuters has probably made more > >people hate the American government with its media privelage than the > >government itself has. Heh seems Colonel Panic is the only person that > >sees political/military/world events from the same direction I do, or so at > >least it seems in his posts. > > Today's story... > > Well, a few of you may have heard about the most recent of 'Palestinian' > suicide bombings. Apparently, a lone 'Palesinian' (by which I mean anyone > who isn't Jewish) went kamikaze on a bus in Megiddo (woot, my namesake in > the news yet again) and killed 17 people. In turn the Israelis immediately > labeled the attacks terrorism and blew the hell out of Arafat's summer > cottage. He managed to make it out alive once again. > > Now, I was shifting through US News today and found an article referring to > the exchange. Funny quote meant to play on the sympathies of the ages of > the victims in the attack stated that of the 17 killed, 13 were soldiers > under 20 (or something similar). A little further checking and I found out > that all 16 victims (the sevententh being the bomber) were in the Israeli > military. Apparently, this so called bus *cough*troop transport*cough* was > targetted by those uppity Palestinians. Well, once again I'll go into my > little ramp about attacking military targets NOT being terrorism. > > Also, beware Jewish writers. Another one that pissed me off was the > anti-soccer article in the Post yesterday (or maybe it was this morning) > that, not so subtly, mentioned that soccer was 'the favorate sport of Osama > Bin Laden'. The writer was Jewish and should be killed. I have no problem > with Jews of course, just Zionist media manipulating murderers who hide > their crimes behind a facade of fighting terrorism. > > The news is full of lies. Find them. Kill them. Take out as many > bystanders as possible. > > -Meggito > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Tue Jun 11 22:20:25 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HxkH-0005Gq-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:20:25 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5C2KNW13330 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:20:23 GMT Received: (qmail 6446 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Jun 2002 02:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20020612022023.6445.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.58.49] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:20:23 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:20:23 +0800 Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.58.49 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathaniel Wilson" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:32:30 -0400 To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( > > Today's story... > > Well, a few of you may have heard about the most recent of 'Palestinian' > suicide bombings. Apparently, a lone 'Palesinian' (by which I mean anyone > who isn't Jewish) went kamikaze on a bus in Megiddo (woot, my namesake in > the news yet again) and killed 17 people. In turn the Israelis immediately > labeled the attacks terrorism and blew the hell out of Arafat's summer > cottage. He managed to make it out alive once again. > So? > > Now, I was shifting through US News today and found an article referring to > the exchange. Funny quote meant to play on the sympathies of the ages of > the victims in the attack stated that of the 17 killed, 13 were soldiers > under 20 (or something similar). A little further checking and I found out > that all 16 victims (the sevententh being the bomber) were in the Israeli > military. Apparently, this so called bus *cough*troop transport*cough* was > targetted by those uppity Palestinians. Well, once again I'll go into my > little ramp about attacking military targets NOT being terrorism. > Wether they labeled it terrorist or a valid military attack, they can just as much label his "summer cottage" a valid military attack. If it was meant to play on sympathy or not, so what? it's called news, they try and sell a story. It's a job just like any other. They put a spin/play on a certain subject to sell an item. oh no! heaven forbid they do that! > > Also, beware Jewish writers. > Right. > Another one that pissed me off was the > anti-soccer article in the Post yesterday (or maybe it was this morning) > that, not so subtly, mentioned that soccer was 'the favorate sport of Osama > Bin Laden'. The writer was Jewish and should be killed. why am I not suprised you, of all people, are against freedom of speech? >I have no problem > with Jews of course, just Zionist media manipulating murderers who hide > their crimes behind a facade of fighting terrorism. > yeah, right. > > The news is full of lies. Find them. Kill them. Take out as many > bystanders as possible. > by your posts, you're the news too, so save us some time and go kill your self. > > -Meggito > -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From sawpsawp@atozasia.com Tue Jun 11 22:21:46 2002 Received: from 202-77-181-23.outblaze.com ([202.77.181.23] helo=mg.hk5.outblaze.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HxlZ-0005Jm-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:21:45 -0400 Received: from ws2.hk3.outblaze.com (202-77-181-50.outblaze.com [202.77.181.50]) by mg.hk5.outblaze.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5C2LjW13684 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:21:45 GMT Received: (qmail 6699 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Jun 2002 02:21:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20020612022145.6698.qmail@atozasia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Received: from [68.128.58.49] by ws2.hk3.outblaze.com with http for sawpsawp@atozasia.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:21:45 +0800 From: "pyro sawp" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:21:45 +0800 Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( X-Originating-Ip: 68.128.58.49 X-Originating-Server: ws2.hk3.outblaze.com Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 50/50? ----- Original Message ----- From: Colonel Panic Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:16:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( > > Whoa, hey there, dude... The writer skould be KILLED? Talk about attacking somebody > just for having an opinion... Or did you mean he should be killed because he is > Jewish? > > -- __________________________________________________ Get FREE 50 MB email @ http://www.AtoZasia.com Powered by Outblaze From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 22:56:15 2002 Received: from web11206.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.188]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HyIx-0006Wr-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:56:15 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612025616.30382.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.15] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:56:16 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic To: PLA-UPL list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] (no subject) Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have been doing a series of extensive Web searches for various old-timers from the list who have sort of, um, dropped out of existence, should I say? People whom nobody I know has been able to contact for years, on the list or off. In doing this research, I found a series of IRC logs from 2600.org, which somebody saved to the Web because they contained conversations between Emmanuel Goldstein and a bunch of idiotic lusers. And, unless I'm mistaken, there is a log here of an IRC session where our old friend Primalux logged in, eavesdropped fr awhile, changed nicks, then split. As it's pretty long, I will just post the link to it instead of copy & pasting the entire text of the log. http://www.cryptonet.org/idiots/emmanuel/emmanuel.txt ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Tue Jun 11 23:05:34 2002 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.185]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HyRx-0006yA-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612030535.94952.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.15] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:05:35 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:05:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic To: PLA-UPL list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [PLA_UPL] Old list members Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like= ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Tue Jun 11 23:26:01 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Hyll-00080v-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:26:01 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g5C3Q3130390 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:26:03 -0400 Message-ID: <008901c211c0$ddf96fa0$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020612030535.94952.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Old list members Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:25:57 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Colonel Panic" > Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! > > http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like = > I've just emailed and asked her. We'll see! -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Tue Jun 11 23:32:58 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17HysU-0008P2-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:32:58 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g5C3X0131247 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:33:00 -0400 Message-ID: <00c101c211c1$d5f72760$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020612030535.94952.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> <008901c211c0$ddf96fa0$ee92bd18@gio> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Old list members Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:32:53 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: "Rob T Firefly" > From: "Colonel Panic" > > Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! > > > > > http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like > = > > > > I've just emailed and asked her. We'll see! Well, that's that. The email to primalux@india.com came back undeliverable, and the given URL http://primalux.digitalrenaissance.org is dead. Trail cold, kemosabe. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf http://phonelosers.net AIM - Rob T Firefly From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 00:55:17 2002 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.185]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I0A8-0003eN-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:55:16 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612045518.10370.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.247] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:55:18 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:55:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Old list members To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <00c101c211c1$d5f72760$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Geez, I shoulda mentioned that. I tried all those venues also. Shit! I have had horrible luck all around this endeavour. So far I haven't fared any better in tracking down Hevnsent, Luvox, GE, ShrtCirct7, or BriSch3. Either they're operating under new nicks these days, or they have entered the [shudder] straight world... Or else they're dead or in prison. BTW, I didn't notice it before I pasted it into my email and pressed 'send' that that webpage was inaccessible from outside that realitywarp site. How did you find the right page? --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: "Rob T Firefly" > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! > > > > > > > > > http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like > > = > > > > > > > I've just emailed and asked her. We'll see! > > Well, that's that. The email to primalux@india.com came back undeliverable, > and the given URL http://primalux.digitalrenaissance.org is dead. Trail > cold, kemosabe. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 00:57:37 2002 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.185]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I0CP-0003l8-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:57:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612045738.10660.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.131.247] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:57:38 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Old list members To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <00c101c211c1$d5f72760$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just sent that out to jog your memory. Hey, how many people from those halcyon days are still on the PLA-UPL list now? How many members total are there on the list now? --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > From: "Rob T Firefly" > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! > > > > > > > > > http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like > > = > > > > > > > I've just emailed and asked her. We'll see! > > Well, that's that. The email to primalux@india.com came back undeliverable, > and the given URL http://primalux.digitalrenaissance.org is dead. Trail > cold, kemosabe. > > -- RTF > http://bounce.to/rtf > http://phonelosers.net > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From r_t_f@phonelosers.net Wed Jun 12 03:42:44 2002 Received: from host3.hostaurl.com ([209.239.41.72]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I2mC-0001Hx-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:42:44 -0400 Received: from gio (ool-18bd92ee.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.146.238]) by host3.hostaurl.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g5C7gl103109 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:42:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c211e4$bb100480$ee92bd18@gio> From: "Rob T Firefly" To: References: <20020612045518.10370.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Old list members Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 03:42:36 -0400 Organization: United Phone Losers - http://phonelosers.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Wif mah UPL-styley h4x0r skillz, y0! ...actually, the link worked fine for me. That whole sit acts odd, though. Reality-warp-y, even. From: "Colonel Panic" > Geez, I shoulda mentioned that. I tried all those venues also. > > Shit! I have had horrible luck all around this endeavour. So far I haven't fared any > better in tracking down Hevnsent, Luvox, GE, ShrtCirct7, or BriSch3. Either they're > operating under new nicks these days, or they have entered the [shudder] straight > world... > Or else they're dead or in prison. > > BTW, I didn't notice it before I pasted it into my email and pressed 'send' that that > webpage was inaccessible from outside that realitywarp site. How did you find the right > page? > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > From: "Rob T Firefly" > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like > > > = > > > > > > > > > > I've just emailed and asked her. We'll see! > > > > Well, that's that. The email to primalux@india.com came back undeliverable, > > and the given URL http://primalux.digitalrenaissance.org is dead. Trail > > cold, kemosabe. > > > > -- RTF > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > http://phonelosers.net > > AIM - Rob T Firefly From meggito@hotmail.com Wed Jun 12 08:24:37 2002 Received: from f89.law9.hotmail.com ([64.4.9.89] helo=hotmail.com) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I7Az-0003MW-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:24:37 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 05:24:40 -0700 Received: from 151.188.28.249 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:24:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.188.28.249] From: "Nathaniel Wilson" To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com Bcc: Subject: Re: Re: [PLA_UPL] i can't find the boeing :( Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:24:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2002 12:24:40.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FF124C0:01C2120C] Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Sarcasm is wasted on the ignorant... > > > > Today's story... > > > > Well, a few of you may have heard about the most recent of 'Palestinian' > > suicide bombings. Apparently, a lone 'Palesinian' (by which I mean >anyone > > who isn't Jewish) went kamikaze on a bus in Megiddo (woot, my namesake >in > > the news yet again) and killed 17 people. In turn the Israelis >immediately > > labeled the attacks terrorism and blew the hell out of Arafat's summer > > cottage. He managed to make it out alive once again. > > > >So? Just background. > > > > Now, I was shifting through US News today and found an article referring >to > > the exchange. Funny quote meant to play on the sympathies of the ages >of > > the victims in the attack stated that of the 17 killed, 13 were soldiers > > under 20 (or something similar). A little further checking and I found >out > > that all 16 victims (the sevententh being the bomber) were in the >Israeli > > military. Apparently, this so called bus *cough*troop transport*cough* >was > > targetted by those uppity Palestinians. Well, once again I'll go into >my > > little ramp about attacking military targets NOT being terrorism. > > > >Wether they labeled it terrorist or a valid military attack, they can just >as much label his "summer cottage" a valid military attack. If it was meant >to play on sympathy or not, so what? it's called news, they try and sell a >story. It's a job just like any other. They put a spin/play on a certain >subject to sell an item. oh no! heaven forbid they do that! The summer cottage would be a euphemism for his massive fortress full of armed gaurds. euphemism \Eu"phe*mism\, n. [Gr. ? fr. ? to use word of a good omen; ? well + ? to speak: cf. F. euph['e]misme. See Fame.] (Rhet.) A figure in which a harsh or indelicate word or expression is softened; a way of describing an offensive thing by an inoffensive expression; a mild name for something disagreeable. > > > > Also, beware Jewish writers. > > > >Right. Here's another literary term called a stereotype which I used in 'sarcasm'. sarcasm \Sar"casm\, n. [F. sarcasme, L. sarcasmus, Gr. sarkasmo`s, from sarka`zein to tear flesh like dogs, to bite the lips in rage, to speak bitterly, to sneer, fr. sa`rx, sa`rkos, flesh.] A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest. > > Another one that pissed me off was the > > anti-soccer article in the Post yesterday (or maybe it was this morning) > > that, not so subtly, mentioned that soccer was 'the favorate sport of >Osama > > Bin Laden'. The writer was Jewish and should be killed. > > >why am I not suprised you, of all people, are against freedom of speech? > I'm not against freedom of speech. Instead, I am offended by biased writers who input irrelevant facts and cut out the truth when it disagrees with their cause. Any 'responsible' writer from a major media source should tell any and only the relevant truth. > >I have no problem > > with Jews of course, just Zionist media manipulating murderers who hide > > their crimes behind a facade of fighting terrorism. > > > >yeah, right. The inverse of a euphemism is exageration. > > > > The news is full of lies. Find them. Kill them. Take out as many > > bystanders as possible. > > > >by your posts, you're the news too, so save us some time and go kill your >self. I was just pointing out a few common ways in which news stories are biased. The point had nothing to do with the stories themselves. Instead, the point was to shed some light about why I feel the media can not be completely trusted to bring unbiased news to the masses. I'm just encouraging people to look beyond what they hear and question what they're told. -Meggito _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Wed Jun 12 10:13:50 2002 Received: from htp241057.columbus.rr.com ([204.210.241.57] helo=plaguesplace.dyndns.org ident=mail) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I8sg-0000yS-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:13:50 -0400 Received: from worm3rd (helo=localhost) by plaguesplace.dyndns.org with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17I8rU-0004yb-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:12:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Albert Einstein.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 19 May 2002, Nathaniel Wilson wrote: > > > >Why can't you vote? Are you a convicted felon, or just underage? (or > >both!?!) > > Underage. But my problem is that at 16 (about a week shy of 17 at the time) A president term before that, they allowed clueless 8-th graders at my middle school to vote. Apparently votes by masses are more important than votes by people who actually know what they are voting for based on more than looks and choices of people you want to fit in with. > I knew the candidates, the issues, and my concerns. I was probably more > informed than 90% of the people who voted, but I'm not allowed to because > I'm too young. It just kinda pisses me off. That, and the fact that Bush You just made yourself sound silly. The election was more than a year and a week ago, meaning you are over 18 now. And yet you just said "I'm not allowed to" in present tense. You're too silly, you make me want to giggle like a little school girl while being approached by a priest. > could get elected just speaks volumes about the poor state of our > governmental system. No offense to him, but are Bush and Gore the best that As you said, you made it a point to inform yourself on who to vote for. The 90% went by what they've seen on TV and what their beer-drinking, football-watching, saliva-spitting, sports-obsessed, stripped-of-individuality, stupid buddies said during a barbecue party after the belching contest. And their buddies got it from TV. So, the TV controls who will be the next president. If one person would take control over all TVs, that person would decide the fate of this country. > America can come up with? The current political system is horribly flawed. > Politicians run the country. Our presidents are be elected for us, and No, media runs the country. And uh, everything is flawed. > noone would have elected either Gore or Bush if we would have been given a > decent option. Instead the politicians thrust two choices before us, and By "we" you mean people like "you," while most of "them" are not like "you" and therefore do not qualify for "we." Why did herds of bulls jump off cliffs in confusion? > our 'elections' are no more than choosing between two aristocracies. > > -meggito Again, it's easier to influence a group of people than it is to influence a single person. That's why since voting is based on collection opinions of groups of people, in whose favor is the voting system working? From worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Wed Jun 12 10:17:58 2002 Received: from htp241057.columbus.rr.com ([204.210.241.57] helo=plaguesplace.dyndns.org ident=mail) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I8wg-0001IU-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:17:58 -0400 Received: from worm3rd (helo=localhost) by plaguesplace.dyndns.org with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17I8vV-0004yq-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:16:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Official PLA Weapon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Instead of sitting there all day looking at pictures of guns on the internet, you could send me that mario game. The idiots took back the crappy games they loaned us, so we have no use for the secretly unspecified utility that only you and I know about and no one else on this list does. -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org : 6667 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Mon, 20 May 2002, adroyt wrote: > > http://world.guns.ru/assault/as48-e.htm > > ...oh great, do we really need you losers with guns? > > From worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Wed Jun 12 10:21:55 2002 Received: from htp241057.columbus.rr.com ([204.210.241.57] helo=plaguesplace.dyndns.org ident=mail) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I90V-0001Xk-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:21:55 -0400 Received: from worm3rd (helo=localhost) by plaguesplace.dyndns.org with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17I8zK-0004zl-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:20:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:20:42 -0400 (EDT) From: To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Official PLA Weapon In-Reply-To: <20020522052454.34657.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Are you a CS player by chance?=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org : 6667 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Tue, 21 May 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: >=20 > I kinda like the Steyr Aug assault carbine. Ugliest weapon ever made, fit= for ugly tasks. > Extremely light (made of grey or olive-drab high-impact plastic), small a= nd accurate. Can > be used to spray an entire room assault-rifle style, or with a scope to s= nipe very > accurately from a distance. Austrian-made, you know that means quality. >=20 >=20 > --- prowler fuxor wrote: > >=20 > > i always liked the french FAMAS=20 > > --- adroyt wrote: > > >=20 > > > http://world.guns.ru/assault/as48-e.htm > > >=20 > > > ...oh great, do we really need you losers with guns? > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼℮К₪=D8مự=E7Қ >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com >=20 From worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Wed Jun 12 10:22:53 2002 Received: from htp241057.columbus.rr.com ([204.210.241.57] helo=plaguesplace.dyndns.org ident=mail) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17I91Q-0001bX-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:22:52 -0400 Received: from worm3rd (helo=localhost) by plaguesplace.dyndns.org with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17I90F-0004zw-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:21:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Official PLA Weapon In-Reply-To: <004501c20157$57c4e820$ee92bd18@gio> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 22 May 2002, Rob T Firefly wrote: > > I usually just throw cheese at people. Its cheap, leagal, and gets the job > done. Ooh! I get to point out RTF's spelling mistake. It's "legal," not "leagal." From worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Wed Jun 12 11:35:42 2002 Received: from htp241057.columbus.rr.com ([204.210.241.57] helo=plaguesplace.dyndns.org ident=mail) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IA9u-0005YS-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:35:42 -0400 Received: from worm3rd (helo=localhost) by plaguesplace.dyndns.org with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17IA8j-00055V-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:34:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:34:29 -0400 (EDT) From: To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Re: JOLT COLA BABY! In-Reply-To: <20020527022138.16111.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Why not just drink coffee? It gave me a 3.66 last semester. And I didn't even have to do anything - just drink coffee and show up in class.=20 -the 3rd w0rm- plaguesplace.dydns.org : 6667 #phonelosers http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com On Sun, 26 May 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: >=20 > Of course Jolt tastes bad; you drink it for the caffiene high, not the fl= avor! > Jeez... > And Pepsi is sugar water. I like Coke 'cause it has some bite. >=20 > --- Brad Carter wrote: > >=20 > > --- arcmna@softhome.net wrote: > > > Yeah they still have jolt, i've seen it sold at various gas > > > stations and=20 > > > quicky marts here and there. My local Q.D. sells it.=20 > >=20 > > I still see jolt at convenience stores. I drank it once, thought > > it tasted horrible so I stick to Pepsi. > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > My homepage: http://www.phonelosers.org/rbcp/=20 > > Contact me: ICQ: #17320246 AOL: ROYBEECP > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > --=97┼℮К₪=D8مự=E7Қ >=20 > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law;=20 > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > --Aleister Crowley > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >=20 From worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org Wed Jun 12 11:42:29 2002 Received: from htp241057.columbus.rr.com ([204.210.241.57] helo=plaguesplace.dyndns.org ident=mail) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IAGT-0005uD-00 for phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:42:29 -0400 Received: from worm3rd (helo=localhost) by plaguesplace.dyndns.org with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17IAFI-00056G-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:41:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:41:16 -0400 (EDT) From: To: phonelosers@wearehope.com Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Re: [PLA_UPL] vanilla coke? In-Reply-To: <20020528020604.30427.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 27 May 2002, Brad Carter wrote: > You win. I haven't bought soda by the case in a long, long time. > I prefer to get fountain drinks at convenience stores. My problem > is that if I have cases of it in the house, I drink it nonstop > until it's gone. I have a serious Pepsi addiction. So to keep > myself from ODing on Pepsi, I have to inconvenience myself by not > buying it in bulk. Why don't you make some kind of a system for retreiving a unit from the bulk of pepsi at your own house? For example, create a dartboard and make the very center a button that when a dart pushes into, a can falls from the ceiling. That way, you'll get really good at dart throwing at your own addiction's expense. It's easy to make. The botton will be connected to a device that will slightly tip over each time it's pressed. What it will tip over is a container of salty water, which will calmly pour into the slot of the stolen vending machine that you will have mounted on your ceiling. A single can will fall out, and you will have to either catch it in time or throw more darts. To keep yourself from cheating, buy a few gas stoves and arrange them in a fiery half-circle about 10 feet in radius from the dartboard. Turn them all on, and break off the controls. To retreive darts, you will have to use a fishing pole with a hook. You can also throw knives, axes, tennis balls, rocks, feces, whatever you want to become an adept thrower of. Good luck! From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 16:51:03 2002 Received: from web11202.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.184]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IF54-0008L5-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:51:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612205059.25798.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.133] by web11202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:50:59 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [PLA_UPL] Old list members To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: <000701c211e4$bb100480$ee92bd18@gio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hence the name. --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > Wif mah UPL-styley h4x0r skillz, y0! > > ...actually, the link worked fine for me. That whole sit acts odd, though. > Reality-warp-y, even. > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > Geez, I shoulda mentioned that. I tried all those venues also. > > > > Shit! I have had horrible luck all around this endeavour. So far I haven't > fared any > > better in tracking down Hevnsent, Luvox, GE, ShrtCirct7, or BriSch3. > Either they're > > operating under new nicks these days, or they have entered the [shudder] > straight > > world... > > Or else they're dead or in prison. > > > > BTW, I didn't notice it before I pasted it into my email and pressed > 'send' that that > > webpage was inaccessible from outside that realitywarp site. How did you > find the right > > page? > > > > > > --- Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > From: "Rob T Firefly" > > > > From: "Colonel Panic" > > > > > Tell me this ISN'T the PrimaLux [we used to] know! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.realitywarp.com/rwe/coop_details.cfm?who=126&who_was=124,126&like > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've just emailed and asked her. We'll see! > > > > > > Well, that's that. The email to primalux@india.com came back > undeliverable, > > > and the given URL http://primalux.digitalrenaissance.org is dead. Trail > > > cold, kemosabe. > > > > > > -- RTF > > > http://bounce.to/rtf > > > http://phonelosers.net > > > AIM - Rob T Firefly > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 17:04:37 2002 Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.187]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IFIC-0000gh-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612210438.57340.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.133] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:04:38 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Official PLA Weapon To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: CS? What's CS? --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > Are you a CS player by chance? > > -the 3rd w0rm- > > plaguesplace.dydns.org : 6667 #phonelosers > http://the3rdworm.cjb.net & http://www.antimouth.com > > On Tue, 21 May 2002, Colonel Panic wrote: > > > > > I kinda like the Steyr Aug assault carbine. Ugliest weapon ever made, fit for ugly > tasks. > > Extremely light (made of grey or olive-drab high-impact plastic), small and accurate. > Can > > be used to spray an entire room assault-rifle style, or with a scope to snipe very > > accurately from a distance. Austrian-made, you know that means quality. > > > > > > --- prowler fuxor wrote: > > > > > > i always liked the french FAMAS > > > --- adroyt wrote: > > > > > > > > http://world.guns.ru/assault/as48-e.htm > > > > > > > > ...oh great, do we really need you losers with guns? > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > > > ===== > > --—┼℮К₪ØمựçҚ > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; > > There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' > > --Aleister Crowley > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From teknopuck@yahoo.com Wed Jun 12 17:09:32 2002 Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.185]) by smack.trouble-free.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IFMx-0000yj-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <20020612210932.68874.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.84.133.133] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:09:31 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:09:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Colonel Panic Subject: Re: [pla_upl] Official PLA Weapon To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com Errors-To: Phonelosers-admin@wearehope.com X-BeenThere: Phonelosers@wearehope.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Phonelosers@wearehope.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Unless, of course, you're a "leagle beagle" or a 'leagle eagle." I know that's bad, but like a friend of mine used to say, "You can't do that, it's like a sick bird--Ill Eagle!" Get it? Ill-eagle? illegal? ill-eagle, illegal? LMMFAOOH! (Laughing My Mutha Fukkin Ass Off Ovah Heah!) --- worm3rd@plaguesplace.dyndns.org wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Rob T Firefly wrote: > > > > > I usually just throw cheese at people. Its cheap, leagal, and gets the job > > done. > > Ooh! I get to point out RTF's spelling mistake. It's "legal," not > "leagal." > > > _______________________________________________ > Phonelosers mailing list > Phonelosers@wearehope.com > http://smack.trouble-free.net/mailman/listinfo/phonelosers_wearehope.com ===== --—┼eК₪ØمuçK -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 'Do What Thou Wilt' shall be the whole of the Law; There is no Law beyond 'Do What Thou Wilt.' --Aleister Crowley ___________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com From JKramer001@aol.com Wed Jun 12 17:46:07 2002 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by smack.trouble-free.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IFwM-0004DE-00 for Phonelosers@wearehope.com; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:46:06 -0400 Received: from JKramer001@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id i.2f.28b02dfb (3932) for